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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 03:13 PM Original message |
Barbara Ehrenreich: Healthcare Surrender Monkeys |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. Fuckin' insurance companies...n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Fuckin weak-kneed "top-tier" candidates. n/t |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Fuckin weak-kneed "top tier" Corporate Owned candidates.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. It IS odd to see so many corporatist talking points |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. When people mindlessly support the "lesser evil" they get this kind of evil. |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. 'As for the health insurance company executives, there should be an adequate job training program |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. Oh and I'm reeeeeeally really shocked |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I'm not. Most people haven't gotten sick yet |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. So unless it bites 'em in the ass PERSONALLY, then it's no big deal. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
57. Health care has been a major, major issue for me for many |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Putting off healthcare |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
44. you are so right |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
48. It's like people's opinions of their fire departments |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Supporters of the top 3 don't want their bubbles burst. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Yup. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. I may be leaving too. |
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BrklynLib at work (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
5. Rec #5. Off to the greatest page with thee. |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. It is the issue that has put me in Dennis' corner |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
9. K&R |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
10. Ehrenreich is right, as she is so often. another Rec from me. I can't believe anyone here defends |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. Kick |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
13. As a proponent of single payer health care, I don't support Ehrenreich |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Erm... I think the subject is healthcare... not "why Barbara isn't good enough for me" |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yes, the subject is health care |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. How does her lobbying for single-payer care |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. When the going gets tough for single payer |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. They? Gurus? We have models that work well already. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Just a little peek behind the curtain |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. There are millions of people waiting for ANY care... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Health care for women isn't a big problem? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I'm not playing the "lets divide people from each other" game. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. As I said |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I don't associate single-payer with Ehrenreich's priorities. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Ehrenreich's only priority |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Yeah... I really don't care what her personal proclivities are. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. I know, its discouraging |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I don't give them that excuse... they're on the take. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
15. Yah - fucking Paul Krugman - corporatist asshole! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. What? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Krugman unequivocally believes Clinton's, Edwards' and Obama's plans are all very good.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. That doesn't make him a corporate whore... just misguided. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Oh ok. When you agree with him, he's awesome. When you disagree, he's misguided... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Love the black and white bullshit "reasoning". |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Krugman said in an article a while back Edward's plan offers the best chance to transition to... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Did he say ANYTHING about Kucinich's plan? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Yes, though not by name. It's in the excerpt I provided. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Did you read the study group link? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Ending the war has 100 sponsors and majority support among the electorate... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. It's not the same Congress it will be next time around. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #49 |
62. True, but if you can't get a veto proof majority, your bill dies on the Senate floor. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. VETO? But this is why I'm supporting Kucinich... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. It doesn't matter - haven't you heard it's POSSIBLE for Krugman to be wrong?!? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Yes, anyone CAN be wrong about anything. Some are more likely than others, however... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. "Moonbeam McCrazypants". |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. It's a good'un, isn't it? (BEAM) |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Yup. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. (BEAM) |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I'm really glad you're so proud of yourself. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
59. Mandatory insurance is worse than no insurance at all |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. I don't get the support for these plans... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. The support comes from a bunch of ignorant people who have never been expensively sick |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
24. We've read these same fabricated excuses here for months much to our shame. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
41. An excellent polemic |
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cosmicdot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
58. knr |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 06:11 AM Response to Original message |
65. kick. |
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