Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Is Bush Advising Hillary?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:31 AM
Original message
Is Bush Advising Hillary?
I got this in my email from Citizens for Legitimate Government tonight: 24 Sep 2007
http://www.legitgov.org/
http://www.legitgov.org/index.html#breaking_news
Bush quietly advising Hillary Clinton, top Democrats 24 Sep 2007 President Bush is quietly providing back-channel advice to Hillary Rodham Clinton, urging her to modulate her rhetoric so she can effectively prosecute the war in Iraq, if elected president. In an interview for the new book "The Evangelical President," White House Chief of Staff Josh Bolten said Bush wants enough continuity in his Iraq policy that "even a Democratic president would be in a position to sustain a legitimate presence there." To that end, the president has been sending advice, mostly through aides, aimed at preventing an abrupt withdrawal from Iraq in the event of a Democratic victory in November 2008.


WTF!?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:33 AM
Response to Original message
1. and of course she answers the phone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:36 AM
Response to Original message
2. I wouldn't really be surprised.
After all, his primary concern is that we stay in Iraq after he leaves office.

Hillary has been hobnobbing with the likes of Rupert Murdoch, and other RW and neocon types, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if she was accepting indirect counsel from the WH.

As I've said many times before, I'll support whoever wins the Democratic nomination -- but I really hope that's not Hillary.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. Yes I agree with.........
"but I really hope that's not Hillary."

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:39 AM
Response to Original message
3. No, it's apparently a story from a RW author
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3546008&mesg_id=3546008

But all the presidential candidates get briefed by the president at some point during the campaign.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:40 AM
Response to Original message
5. Check out the original source
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:45 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Ok thanks.......
yes I guess I just reacted to soon without researching more. Shit! Thought I had something.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. It could still be true.
The RW manipulates information, but they don't always necessarily make it up.

There still could be some truth to this that they're attempting to manipulate to their advantage.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 12:50 AM
Response to Original message
8. What in hell would Bush be able to advise ANYONE about?
"Jelly. Make sure you get plenty of jelly when you order your PB&J. Sometimes the chef only puts a little jelly on the bread. I like a big layer of jelly. Really helps make the peanut butter easy to swallow. Now we'll move on to the milk. I like to go with your standard 2 percent. Not too watery, but not creamy enough to give you those whole milk farts after you drink it."

And so on...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dandylion Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 12:50 AM
Response to Reply #8
22. ROTF
can't. breathe. laughing. too. hard.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 01:47 AM
Response to Original message
9. No, she doesn't need him to advise her--she has Bill
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 05:06 AM
Response to Original message
10. Bush advising HRC?
Why not?

- They're both rightwing.

- They both hate American workers & crave more offshoring/inshoring of jobs. Offshoring has increased under Bush, HRC has ties w/Tata Consulting.

- They both hate the idea of single-payer, universal healthcare. Neither will advocate/support SP/UHC. HRC is borrowing Gingrich's idea of forcing everyone to buy health insurance. He must be very proud of his student.

- They both love war & hate peace. Bush started a couple of wars, is hoping to star a 3rd, & HRC wants to continue the wars.

If republinazis are sad about Bush leaving office in '09, they should vote for HRC so they can get more of the same.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 05:33 AM
Response to Original message
11. CLG is pretty reliable
I don't think they'd run it without checking it out first. And from the snippet, it doesn't seem like the advice is solicited. It's more the way PNAC tried to "advise" Bill Clinton.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 10:29 PM
Response to Original message
12. K&R
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 10:30 PM
Response to Original message
13. Keith Olbermann reported the same item on Tuesday's 'Countdown.'
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:22 PM
Response to Original message
14. Is Bush Advising Hillary? Yes. BTW, she doesn't have to...
*take* the advice. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. No he's not, from all accounts
Edited on Tue Sep-25-07 11:27 PM by seasonedblue
bush is offering completely unsolicited advice to all the Democrats, like any one of them would listen.

edited to say that's probably what you meant anyway lol. sorry
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:30 PM
Response to Original message
16. Royalty likes royalty and there is under the radar finangling to get Hillary in as prez
Edited on Tue Sep-25-07 11:31 PM by illinoisprogressive
got to continue the dynasty of the two dysfuntional families ruining our country
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:30 PM
Response to Original message
17. Well she got Newt to help her on her health plan, so go figure.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:38 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. Yes, H. Clinton is being pushed by the rightwing just as J. Kerry...
was pushed (to get the presidential nomination).
When the 2nd 'election' was stolen in 2004, John Kerry immediately rolled over - the rightwing knew that that would happen. That's why Kerry was pushed via the rightwing media to get the nomination.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:36 PM
Response to Original message
18. Why would the criminals who stole the last two presidential elections....
...step aside and let go of the reigns? By right we should have won by a bigger margin in ’06. Think about it, our majority was just enough to hand “control” and blame of the war to the democrats, but not enough to give us any power. ....Democracy is over.

The wife of the man who gave us NAFTA, who enacted the Telecommunications Act (consolidating our media), and the Iraqi Liberation Act (calling for the oust of Saddam) will be our next president.

We were loud enough to stop the sale of our ports to Dubai, now we have to be loud enough to get a patriot in office.

(Yes, I know, after the port deal fell through, they sold 9 of our military plants to Dubai...but we did throw a monkey wrench in their plans)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 12:38 AM
Response to Reply #18
21. Why would the (rightwing) criminals step aside?
I am not sure that they will. Bush may play the bio-terror card prior to the 2008 'elections,' to insure a Giuliani reign of terror.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:57 AM
Response to Reply #21
23. I don't think BushCo will back Giuliani...Rudy has different investments to push.
...But then again I think Rudy can be bought. ...IMOP, I think BushCo is stacking the deck with a person on both sides that would benefit corporate America and keep us in the Middle East.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
siri2k Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:23 AM
Response to Reply #23
26. The biggest Nazi in bunch is Mitt Romney - maybe Bush is pushing...
for that terrorist to win the 'election.'
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #26
30. Hi siri2k, a belated welcome to the DU...
One day on Tucker Carlson’s show, Carlson was talking about how evangelicals would like Jeb Bush to jump into the race. ...Carlson questioned if “W” would campaign for his brother. ...The guest said that “W” and his sister Joan (?) where both backing Romney.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 12:32 AM
Response to Original message
20. I might be more impressed if his preface were
"I wish I'd listened to what y'all were trying to tell me about Bin Laden."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:03 AM
Response to Original message
24. Repugs know their history in 08, how they leave is all that matters
What will Halliburton do? - What will become of lucrative defense contracts? It matters greatly whether Bush bombs Iran, everything stays in play if this should happen, and Hillary or whoever will simply begin their; " it's going to be a long hard road speeches"...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:04 AM
Response to Original message
25. this article from a RW source is getting a lot of play here
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:27 AM
Response to Original message
27. So what if it is true?
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 11:27 AM by saddlesore
Every candidate gets advice...it happens.

Sometimes when swimming with the alligators you need to be cautious...to outsiders it may look like you are an alligator apeaser...when in fact you are just trying to stay alive long enough to get to high ground.

Peace and No Fear.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:32 AM
Response to Original message
28. It wouldn't surprise me
This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

"The Democratic Leadership Council's agenda is indistinguishable from the Republican Neoconservative agenda," http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_DLC_agenda_undistinguishable_from_Neocon_0813.html



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 12:28 PM
Response to Original message
29. Bush Sr & Bill are best buddies-I wouldn't be surprised if both Jr & Sr are advising Hillary.
They are all cut from the same cloth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:26 PM
Response to Original message
31. If you were a candidate, would you really want Bush to advise you on anything, would you
want Bush to publicly endorse you? Bush has been nothing but a puppet from day one, and as we know puppets don't have the ability to talk on their own.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:58 PM
Response to Original message
32. Give me a FUCKING BREAK
I'm tired of this garbage being posted on here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:00 PM
Response to Original message
33. It's not a secret she's a republican...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:14 PM
Response to Original message
34. LOL. Unsolicited, and unnecessary advice. Much ado about nothing.
It appears the "back-channel advice" is no more than an Administration spin from Bolten.

Nice try, Josh.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 07:33 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC