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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:18 PM
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Al Gore quote:
http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/content/view/2485/81/

In a recent interview, Gore said this:

…I fear that I’m losing my objectivity where President Bush and Cheney are concerned. Not much surprises me anymore. I have a lot of friends who share the following problem with me: Our sense of outrage is so saturated that when a new outrage occurs, we have to download some existing outrage into an external hard drive in order to make room for a new outrage.

(This interview appears in the current issue of a new Harvard alumni publication called 02138.)
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:19 PM
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1. my hard drive space was filled up in 2003.
I've got a room full of zip drives and floppy disks and I just rented space at a Stop & Store.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:28 PM
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6. That's nothing
Edited on Tue Sep-25-07 06:30 PM by Mabus
I've had to have myself cloned so I'd have more time to download more outrage. I'm just glad I like myself. ;)
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:54 PM
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28. mine was dangerously close to full BEFORE (S)Election 2000
I'm now writing to DVDs, more space.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:20 PM
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2. that is exactly how I feel lately,.....it is nice to see a politician pinpoint
what I bet most Americans are feeling these days, makes them more human
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:20 PM
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3. Great Quote!
Come on Al. Run. There is still a little time left to jump in.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:23 PM
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5. I don't want the GOP to assassinate him
Edited on Tue Sep-25-07 06:23 PM by Taverner
That's what will happen if he runs.

Think Bobby Kennedy...and you'll get my drift.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:48 PM
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8. That's not a good enough reason.
Someone has to stand up to these bullies. Are we just going to give up because "they'll assassinate" our leader/s? Maybe we just need to recruit braver leaders. Or get them better protection.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:22 PM
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4. Oooh, well said!! nt
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:34 PM
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7. #5 off to the greatest page with ya
:patriot:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:50 PM
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9. K&R.
We do need a president who is as pissed off as the rest of the world is. Not a mask that bleats and simpers "let's chat."
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progpen Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:54 PM
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10. I love it! Well said once again, Mr. Gore.
I really hope he does not run for President, because then he will lose that ability to speak his mind. His speeches since leaving office are routinely eloquent, passionate and spot on.
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:57 PM
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11. Outrage Overload
Anybody familiar with NLP compulsion blow-out models, where you just ratchet up the trigger for a given behavior, over and over, until literally the circuits blow in your brain?

Ah the peace and calm of just not feeling anymore.

:silly:
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 09:13 PM
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12. I love this quote. I think he's the only person who's as outraged as we are.K&R n/t
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:35 PM
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34. Keith Olbermann seems to be as outraged as us as well.
Fantastic quote to bring to DU by the OP during these angry times.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 09:19 PM
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13. So Al, how about defragging our govenment and running for re-election?
You know you want to.

You know we're with you.

You know you'll win
( 'cause we will count the votes accurately in a majority of states this time around.)

You know we need you.

Say it's so, Al. Run like the world depends on it.

Because it does.

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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:07 AM
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14. Al - if you are so outraged -- THEN RUN & GIVE US SOME HOPE
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:59 AM
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15. any minute now.."negative nelly" will be along...ahhhh..Run Al Run dang it!!..lol
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 02:01 AM by flyarm
asking us all where were we in 2000...and all the other bullshit that goes along with the rhetoric..it/ she ..spews.......:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


10 , 9 , 8 , 7 , 6 , 5 , 4 , 3 , 2 ..1..where is the lord of Gore????:sarcasm:

lmao.........:rofl:

I have to go to bed..i guess i see it as... all too predictable now..;)

wink wink..get my drift?:rofl:

night all..

RUN AL RUN..your nation needs you ..i need you...my children need you..the world needs you!!

RUN AL RUN!!

fly
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:28 AM
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17. BWAHAHAHAHA!
"Oh no! It's Debbie Downer!!!" :rofl:

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:29 AM
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19. ...
:evilgrin:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:05 AM
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16. And George W. Bush would have NO EARTHLY IDEA what Gore meant.
'Saturated hard drive? External outage? Wha??'
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Jaap Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:26 AM
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18. My hard drive crashed
After the first recount...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:34 PM
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22. Hello there Jaap!
Welcome to DU!

:hi:
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Jaap Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:11 PM
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30. Thanks!
I'm so happy I've found DU!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:20 PM
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32. I certainly know that feeling!
Hope you enjoy exploring all the different forums... IMO this really is the BEST site around. :7
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:00 AM
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20. K&R
:kick: :kick:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:10 AM
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21. There's gotta be a release.
You can't store everything forever.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:43 PM
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23. Circuits are overloaded. Reboot!
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:48 PM
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24. jesus i hope he runs
we need you Al!

Gore/Obama!!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:15 PM
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25. Growing up with Nixon, my brain developed plenty of outrage capacity
because Bush-Cheney haven't even begun to fill mine up, yet. When they are rounding us up in the trains and we are so closely crowded that one in four of us will die before we reach our destination and when we get there half of us will be gassed and cremated and then the rest of us will die slowly of starvation and disease...then my outrage capacity might come close to being filled. Or when our children can not leave the house, because there are too many car bombs going off and we have no electricity or running water and cholera is epidemic and the hospital is the last place we will take a baby sick with meningitis, because the hospital is ground zero in the civil war----that defies comprehension.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:14 PM
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38. I approximated the trajectory
and have never seen a deviation in the degradation of the GOP. It was set to become worse and worse and so were the players, their methods and goals. What moved in parallel was outrage against the Democratic Party. parallel, with too little confrontation. The same parallelism afflicts the business world where gangster methods, morals and empire building is almost seamlessly in "harmony" with the "good guys" who abhor regulation more than the responsibilities and comforts of civil law and civil society.

Now it is presumed there is some pristine America where the compromises worked out, ugly but satisfying and "wise". Wistful comparisons to past, less harmful players on the parallel trajectories, are dangerously misguided, making a utopia out of the dynamisms in their milder incarnations.

Corporate press. By nature it was always slanted, agenda ridden, controlled by owners with other, more defining, selfish principles than journalism and public service. Reporters were poorer, times were competitive, so news thrived for a time, more as a byproduct in the dynamism of growth. Now it is entertainment propaganda and profit driven to the point of attacking civil society.

Parties per se. It is too bad that small parties don't each us the more visible process. Perot's party, unfortunately corporate, one CEO, driven, went from broad idealism, fervor, reform into co-option and destruction into what small parties are herded into by the majors- tools to flake off votes in the schemes of elections without making any allowances for introducing public agendas. In the past for example W J Bryan co-opted the largely ex-GOP populists and went on to lose four straight elections while the little guys just faded under GOP triumphalism. Our Dem co-opters, or triangulators, seek to run with the devil instead, joining the corporate parallel.

It has been noted that all these strong, ruling parallels are headed for complete disaster and that their only possible response is to breeze along, thriving in the ruins in a trajectory BY NOW so thoroughly insane as to be unrecognizable by the supposedly sane players. The fact we can even have a lunkhead gangster plutocrat with religious hypocrisy framed in bizarre death cult terms shows how this is accelerating beyond the absurd. Such power in these parallels has an inertial thrust so savage that only total extinction might seem to stop it.

The growth of human awareness is on a critical trajectory, trapped by power, revolting on all sides and within but merrily participating nonetheless. Even science is essentially corrupted by this "elan". Basic survival, law, truth, critical earth crises, you know, are some of the "little" things weighing against the lemming onrush of vaunted human civilization.

Opt out(we used to call that rugged survivalism). Newtworking(small communal survivalism versus the fortress tower approach- Arendt's recent brilliant historical cycle evaluation only problematic because this is global crisis not a failing empire). Reform movements(environmentalist, political). Alternative news(the only genuine search for news actually). Democracy. People putting the brakes on the juggernaut or getting out of the way.

There are only a handful of villains at the top. The power in in the inertial corruption and enhanced 21st Century power and the madhouse of economic cannibalism that sweeps even the "good" along as they fix and critique horrors here and there and try to make the illusions work.

The resistance in our party no longer turns me off so much I would destroy the Dems as the hopelessly obsolete and dark GOP. It is a society wide resistance that includes the big tent party that at least by nature must represent the people. When it recognizes that the people are groaning against the parallel and not just busy in making evil respectably pliable to decent government(sometimes) will perhaps make some progress in reversing this leadership insanity where the leaders are all dumb and regressive compared to the common man, sulking, dissatisfied and suffering under the failing miasma of corporate propaganda. The jig is up starts below. Change starts by the people ground in the gears at least gumming up the works. In the past getting at the controls meant useless activities like wars, rigged elections with oblique choices, revolutions. Working through these mammoth catastrophes never meant WINNING against what natural instinct felt was wrong. Despair at the World is the story of post Ice Age history. But today the common has both the knowledge and tools available to know and prevail where the uncommon elites of parallel doomed institutions cannot go, can only making the usual mocking exploitations and half-assed co-options.

Progressive president. Difficult goal indeed. Progressive new party members. More difficult yet. Actually achieving lawfulness, reform and breaking of the parallels... a wall beyond imagining. People who think one elected person or one election or even several or some reforms or even an enforcement of law upon the madhouse can stop the damage usually are ready to settle into the old parallels at last.
It won't work with what is coming, but it might change the trajectory at long last. Hope is not heaven, but it is more than what the unhindered rule of things as they are will ever produce.
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:18 PM
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26. I blame congress
I don't have to be outraged by anyone breaking the law and getting away with it, not even the president.

I'm outraged that our elected officials are complicit.
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Duncan Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:25 PM
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27. If he doesn't enter the race my CPU will crash.
I have tremendous respect for Gore, but if he does not run, I won't have any.
With things being as they are, and him being who he is, he will go from hero to wuss in my book if he doesn't run.
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toadzilla Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:57 PM
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29. I just had to upgrade to a terabyte
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:16 PM
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31. Do you think that if I sent him a fruit basket he'd run?
Please, Mr. Gore.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:24 PM
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33. That's a good one..I'll have
to try that.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:44 PM
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35. Get an extra hard drive Al...
"impeachment is off the table"
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:49 PM
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36. I had to invest in outrage compression software ...
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 03:53 PM by Lisa
And even then, I need to keep running to the store for new 2-gig USB drives.



http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/content/view/2485/81 /
"I fear that I’m losing my objectivity where President Bush and Cheney are concerned. Not much surprises me anymore. I have a lot of friends who share the following problem with me: Our sense of outrage is so saturated that when a new outrage occurs, we have to download some existing outrage into an external hard drive in order to make room for a new outrage."

Thanks for sharing, babylonsister!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:02 PM
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37. Those of us in Texas had their hard drives filled in 1994. nt
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:37 PM
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39. I think they know that too, and count on it
The more atrocities they commit the more desensitized you become to it. Ann Coulter herelf said in response to her John Edwards comment "This is my 17th allegedly career-ending moment" meaning you should be used io it by now and just accept it.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:39 PM
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40. That is CLASSIC!!!!!!!!! n/t
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:05 PM
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41. I don't agree with the way this piece criticizes Mr. Gore's methods
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 05:12 PM by RestoreGore
"Although Gore has neglected to lay the proper groundwork for stepping forward and making optimal use of that opportunity, it is not too late for him to speak up and say what America needs to hear and to do so in the prophetic voice in which this country needs to hear it."

It is obvious this author hasn't been following Mr. Gore's speeches for the past four to five years when he claims that he hasn't spoken up or laid groundwork... he has, only the MSM hasn't deemed it appropriate to report on those times, and those who have heard the words either haven't given a damn to do anything in response to them, or only think they are spoken to "campaign" for something and think they need not do anything else but shake their pom poms. And for a country so overloaded on outrage, it sure is hard to tell every morning when I wake up and realize we are still in the same place we were the day before. Perhaps if writers then spent more time trying to motivate Americans to lay some groundwork themselves instead of faulting those who actually are speaking up we could get somewhere. Democracy isn't a spectator sport.


http://www.02138mag.com/magazine/article/1485.html

And this is the link to the 02138mag piece Al Gore made the original quote in.

Excerpt from the first page:

02138’s Bom Kim traveled to Los Angeles to ask the former vice president and environmental missionary about the earth’s lost balance, the current inhabitants of the White House, his respect for Michael Moore, and how it feels to be Harvard’s most influential alum. Oh, and one other thing: Is he running for president or what?

Vice President Gore, we’re arguing that you are, at this moment, more influential than President Bush. Are we nuts?

Well, thank you for feeling that way, but yes.

We’ll have to agree to disagree then. But how influential do you think you’ve been since leaving the White House?

I’ve simply tried to have a positive impact. I actually feel that I have failed to reach my principal objective of moving the U.S. and the world past a tipping point on the climate crisis. It’s important to not confuse progress with success.

Are you having more fun these days?

(Laughs) It’s a tricky question, because the issue that I’m most focused on isn’t one associated with having a lot of fun. But there is joy in expending one’s fullest efforts in a cause that feels worthy and feels like it’s what you’re supposed to be doing. So in that sense, yes.

You were often referred to as the most powerful vice president.

That was before Dick Cheney.

Point taken. Cheney has made the argument that the vice presidency is not part of the executive branch. Is he right?

(Laughs) Of course the vice presidency is part of the executive branch! But I fear that I’m losing my objectivity where President Bush and Cheney are concerned. Not much surprises me anymore. I have a lot of friends who share the following problem with me: Our sense of outrage is so saturated that when a new outrage occurs, we have to download some existing outrage into an external hard drive in order to make room for a new outrage.

A recent poll shows that if you entered the presidential race, you would handily win the New Hampshire primary. Isn’t that tempting?

Sure. But I am old enough and have been a candidate enough times to have a very high level of resistance to temptations of that sort. I trust my instincts, and it doesn’t feel like it’s the right thing for me.

But if you believe global warming is such a crisis, wouldn’t you be more effective within the White House than outside it?

I’m under no illusion that there’s any position in the world as influential as that of president. But it doesn’t feel like the right thing for me to be a candidate at this point. I have had the experience of seeing how necessary it is to have adequate support among the people as a whole for the dramatic policy changes that are needed. It may well be that the best use of whatever skills and talents and experiences that I have gained is to concentrate on creating that sea change in mass opinion about this issue, so that whoever is elected will face a groundswell from the people themselves.

Will you endorse a candidate in the primary?

Odds are that I will.

Who?

I haven’t made that decision yet.

Do you feel some obligation to endorse the wife of your
former boss?

Uh … no. I have friendships with her and with the other candidates,
and they’re all on equal footing at this point as far as I’m concerned.


Are you advising any candidates?

No.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:11 PM
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42. I'm a 512KB Type of Guy Experiencing a Terabyte of Outrage
With these clowns.....


Right On, Al!


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