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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:58 PM
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Compare how the reich wing treats their base and how the
base, or core, of the left wing is treated.

I am a "nutroot" (a gem from an enlightened centrist).

I have voted D in every election since I became a citizen in 1976.

I have pounded the pavement for Bill Bradley.

I have made phone calls for Dem candidates I never even heard of.

I have played my role in democracy with committment and healthy motives.

And my party the Deomcratic party could give a rat's ass about me and my opinion.

Then I look at my symbolic counterpart at Freak Republic. He gets invited to chat in the White House.

That fucking sucks.

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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 06:59 PM
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1. and so the story goes
I couldnt agree more
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:02 PM
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3. Couldn't agree more; I was discussing this same thing with a friend a couple of days ago
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:01 PM
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2. AMEN!
Why hasn't our party learned from 2000 not to take us for granted?

And why can't they understand that they'll be more respected for sticking to their ideals, than by meeting people halfway on the other side who will never respect us no matter what we do.
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:08 PM
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4. Because they work for the same people n/t
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:13 PM
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7. I think that is the very essence of it
That and an elitism, a sense of royalty and superiority, that does not permit them to entertain the opinions and concerns of the unwashed masses. Labor truly has lost its voice. The working class is muted. They've managed to confuse a large swath of the population into believing they are the investor class and not actually working stiffs. Big mistake. If you can go a year without a paycheck, you might be able to make an argument, if not, you're right here with the rest of us 'cept you're wearing a seersucker suit.
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:21 PM
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11. Are you talking about DU or the national Dems
Elitist, royal, superior.
Sounds like some of our "friends" here at DU
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:27 PM
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14. That is, in fact, a very salient question because the evolution
of DU has seen a powerful shift to the right since 2000.
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:35 PM
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18. Even more so since 2006
Seems like the more stars and posts you have
the more you enjoy belittling and insulting people
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:10 PM
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5. We have to remember that
the frw are in bed with the corporatemediawhores and they can say whatever they damn please(and they do) and the cmw do their best to cover up.

Imagine if the press were free and reported the facts? The frw base would be sucking dirt.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:18 PM
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9. not in our lifetime, I'm afraid.
:(
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:11 PM
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6. Look how the PARTY POWERS treats any Dem lawmaker who isn't a Clinton disciple.
Any other Democratic leader gets thrown under the bus with no support unless he's on the same page as Clintons.

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:15 PM
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8. ARen't you getting tired of seeing Howard Dean on the nooz shows? nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:52 PM
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20. What does that mean?
Has Dean been on the noise shows or are you being :sarcasm:?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:01 PM
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21. c'mon you know me better than that
dontcha? I wear sarcasm undies.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:08 PM
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22. I thought so but then I wouldn't
have known about yur undies if I hadn'a asked. }(
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:11 PM
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24. yeah, probably too much info.
:)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:39 PM
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25. It happens once
in awhile. :)
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:18 PM
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10. Party leadership has forgotten where the center is.
The center wants wages raised, starting with minimum wage.

The center wants universal health CARE, not just universally bad insurance.

The center wants us OUT of Iraq. The only discussion is to the timetable.

The center wants offshoring stopped and jobs kept here.

The center wants to see CEOs punished for looting their corporations while shortchanging workers.

The center wants dirty money out of politics.

When you hear conservative Democrats talking about being centrists, the proper response is revulsion. When they talk of being centrist, they are talking about playing to the right wing base, people they have no hope at all of converting.

I'm getting sick of being treated like dog shit because these self styled "centrists" don't want to look at the majority opinions I mentioned and share.

They need to wake the hell up and play to the party base, where the real center is. The GOP knows how to play to their base. Why have the Democrats forgotten how to play to theirs?
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monktonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:23 PM
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13. Bravo sir!!! three cheers
Been saying the same thing for months now.
Tired of being treated like dog shit
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:28 PM
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15. go start your own thread
:rofl:

great :thumbsup: post
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:22 PM
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12. whip me!!! beat me!!! stomp on me with cleats!!!!
:hi:
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:29 PM
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16. you cracked me up
:)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:30 PM
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17. I posted that thread
:hi:
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The Vinyl Ripper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 07:36 PM
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19. Because they know you have no other choices to vote for..
Look at how it goes here.

If anyone talks of withholding votes from the Democrats in order to force them to do as the base wishes, that is a bannable offense.

It's support the Dems, no matter how bad they become, or go away.

What *other* form of persuasion works with politicians other than threatening not to vote for them if they do not do as you wish?
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:10 PM
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23. eh, the whole lot of them has contempt for the whole lot of us
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