This is how fascism works

[BornagainDUer]

Imagine this scenario. A very powerful country pre-emptively, and opposed to UN decision, attacks Mexico claiming that it has WMDs including nukes, wipes out its leadership, destroys its infrastructure, and sets off a civil war that threatens to destabilize the whole region. Prior to that this same powerful country had attacked Canada and did similar things in hot pursuit of what it claimed were terrorists. The US then assists this powerful country in their effort to then stabilize Afghanistan, uh, Canada.

(Note: 25 years+ earlier this same powerful country assisted Mexico in its war with us)

After this both Mexico and Canada spiral into oblivion creating enormous chaos on the borders and this powerful country which we had helped in Canada then starts to threaten us with attack for what it says are nukes which it had earlier claimed were in Mexico, and for supplying weapons to groups in Mexico. Underneath the ground in all three areas is OIL galore!

This is analogous to what has happened to Iran. The US then tells Iran it cannot develop nukes even though other countries in the region (Pakistan, India and Israel) have them.

The rule seems to be play by Bushie rules or be annihilated.

Now we have the Press in the US going after Ahmadinejad and even people at DU playing the "with us or against us game".

This is how fascism works.It creates chaos and then keeps it going. It is similar in many ways to what Hitler did in Europe in the lead-up to WWII.

On Edit: In addition I think that Bush's goal is turn Iran into a wasteland if they won't come to his terms, (read: enslavement)

[ThomCat]

1. You forgot the major element of Fascism.

Which is that all of this is being done for the benefit of corporations and wealthy elite, not for any benefit to the a nation or to the people of that nation. The U.S. is not benefiting from our current wars, and neither is the general public of the U.S.

As an aside,

That's an interesting userID. So if this is your born again identity at DU, who were you the first time?

[malaise]

2. The classic school yard bully

Divide and rule. Great post.

[BornagainDUer]

4. Thanks. I now really feel we live in a fascist dictatorship.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

5. I agree with you. The fact that Dems in Congress are supporting it is what has me nuts. nt

[Vilis Veritas]

8. Not quite yet...at least IMO...

Ok...dig this...The RW nutjobs in office have a quasi-secret CNP meeting...who attends? RW nutjobs...not a single Democratic Leader. PNAC (any Dem's there? Nope...)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_for_National_Policy

I think what everyone is missing is the nuanced debate that surrounds those who have to work within the framework that the RW Nutjobs have set up...Yes, it happened, now we are fighting to take it back...and that is where it is hard...because it is not like you can walk into a den of alligators and start eating chicken. You have to plan carefully...to all the outsiders, it will look like you are appeasing the alligators...which is not the case...

There is only one way to take it back...Democratic Leadership across the board...The pendulum needs to swing back and we as a Party need to stay strong and focused and put aside our nuanced differences...IMO

Together We Are Invincible.

Peace and No Fear.

[BornagainDUer]

9. Bush could lose in the end. But he and PNAC are smack on target.

They can blow shit up anywhere anytime and keep ratcheting up the chaos. They have an intelligence apparatus that can keep tabs on anybody they want. Information is power.

[Vilis Veritas]

10. And We Should Be Focused On The Sources.

PNAC
CNP

Start there and tear them down. Refocus and Build our own versions based on Democratic Values, open to all.

Peace.

[liberalmuse]

3. Heil! I'm kidding, you are absolutely right.

Good analogy. "Facism" is probably the closest comparison to where we in America have been heading under Bush. "Imperialism", "Fundamentalism", "Idiocracy", "State sponsored terrorism" are also good descriptors, but they don't cover it as well as "Facism".

[provis99]

6. Ironically, we're not too far from taking over Canada

They've got the largest estimated oil reserves in the world, bigger than Saudi Arabia. Maybe Bush will "discover" Canada is full of terrorists developing WMD, and preemptively attack.

[whosinpower]

7. I've said it before

And I'll say it again. The US does not need to invade Canada militarily.....they have already taken over through business and with the help of NAFTA.

Besides that....if the US was to decide to invade and annex Canada....you would have 30 million liberal voters.....hehehe....do you think the republicans would REALLY like that scenario???!!???? hahaha