MSNBC just told muricans that Bill was a Liability to John Kerry 8 yrs ago

[ChairmanAgnostic]

during Kerry's presidential campaign.

I seem to recall someone named Al Gore. I wonder what ever happened to him?

Proof positive that hiring for looks, not brains, is killing off MSM.

[babylonsister]

1. I heard that, and I'm saying to myself, WTF?

Thanks for confirming their boneheadedness!

[MrModerate]

2. Probably just a slip of the tongue . . .

Although I didn't see the segment you're talking about.

One thing I take to be truth, though, is that if Gore had embraced Clinton in 2000 rather than running from him, he'd be in the White House today -- and we wouldn't be in Iraq.

[cobalt1999]

3. Gore (or his advisers) wrongly pushed themselves away from Clinton in 2000

Bill was/is a master campaigner and was full of energy at the end of his 2nd term. He was a great asset they never utilized.

[mod mom]

5. RIGHTLY- He moved from a DLC Platform to become a POPULIST!

Published on Sunday, August 20. 2000 in the Boston Globe
Thank You, Al Gore
by Robert Kuttner

A funny thing happened to Al Gore on the way to his surprisingly effective acceptance speech. He became a liberal.

The speech was as liberal as anything FDR or LBJ or Jesse Jackson or one of the Kennedys might have delivered. It was built around a commitment to fight for ordinary people, against large and powerful interests. This, of course, is precisely what made it effective.

The emotional heart of the speech, Gore's honoring of four ordinary American lives, did not just salute the struggles of workaday families, the way Ronald Reagan often did. It identified who was dishonoring their struggles - corporations. He singled out heartless HMOs who pressure a family to sacrifice a child; drug companies that force a pensioner to choose between food and medicine; corporate polluters; corporations that pay workers inadequate wages.

And he identified the solution: strong, reliable public Social Security; better Medicare; welfare reform that rewards work rather than punishing the needy; higher minimum wages; and more investment in public - not voucher - schools, so that working families don't have to send kids to crumbling classrooms.

What is the evil? Corporate power. What is the remedy? Effective government.

-snip
http://www.commondreams.org/views/082000-105.htm

[cobalt1999]

6. Using Bill to assist in the campaign...

is different than having Bill set your agenda.

Bill is a campaigning machine and that asset was left on the table when it was ready and willing to help.

[mod mom]

7. I don't thinks Bill (and the DLC) were too happy about the switch.

[blm]

12. The campaign wasn't the problem - the election fraud was. Bill didn't need

permission to instruct the DNC chair to secure the election process in every state where it was vulnerable to RNC's manipulation of process did he?

Did Bill's chosen heads of the DNC for 2000, 2002 and 2004 elections not SEE the rampant suppression tactics of the RNC on purpose? Or were they just so incompetent that they didn't notice it, even after the hearings on 2000's election fraud?

[blm]

4. BALONEY - If Clinton's DNC chair had SECURED the election process instead of letting

the RNC gain control of every aspect of the process where votes are cast and counted, then Gore would have taken office with no fuss.

Then Bill Clinton's NEXT Chair of the party from 2001-2005 sat on HIS hands while the RNC yet AGAIN kept complete control over the election process even after the hearings on 2000's election fraud revealed many of the tactics the RNC used to steal that election.

People are FEARFUl of the reality - Hillary2008 has been operational for years longer than many want to believe.

[MrModerate]

8. And what was the 50-state strategy talked about by ANYONE

in the Dem leadership to avoid 'Lican Secretaries of State across the country seizing control of the mechanics of elections? You can hardly blame it all on the DNC chair.

And I still maintain that Gore erred in running his campaign so that he won by a small enough margin to make the election stealable. Embracing Clinton and Clintonism would have put the numbers out of reach of the 'Lican operatives.

[blm]

9. Florida is the only one we HEARD about - Rather's investigative report showed the

election fraud was being set up in 1999. Why didn't the POLITICAL geniuses in the WH and Dem party see it or do anything about it then?

You may believe it's all innocent, but those of us familiar with the FULLER history of Bush and Clinton and their mutual benefactors over the decades who have received continualprotection on BCCI, IranContra, and CIA drugrunning operations see an entirely different dynamic.

[MrModerate]

10. Yep, I suspect those of you with the FULLER history do see it a bit differently. n/t

[blm]

11. BCCI, IranContra, and CIA drugrunning's outstanding matters weren't given

the rugsweeping treatment for OUR BENEFIT, were they?


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[blm]

13. if Clinton hadn't closed books for Poppy Bush there'd be no Bush2, 9-11 or Iraq

war.