BREAKING: Lieberman-Kyl’s Iran amendment passes.

[babylonsister]

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/26/breaking-lieberman-kyls-iran-amendment-passes/

BREAKING: Lieberman-Kyl’s Iran amendment passes.

By a vote 76-22, the Senate passed the Lieberman-Kyl amendment, which threatens to “combat, contain and ” Iran via “military instruments.” Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) called the amendment “Cheney’s fondest pipe dream” and said it could “read as a backdoor method of gaining Congressional validation for military action.”


UPDATE Before the vote today, changes were made to the original amendment, with paragraphs three and four taken out completely. This paragraph was also added at the end:

“Secretary of Defense Robert Gates stated on September 16, 2007 that “I think that the administration believes at this point that continuing to try and deal with the Iranian threat, the Iranian challenge, through diplomatic and economic means is by the preferable approach. That the one we are using. We always say all options are on the table, but clearly, the diplomatic and economic approach is the one that we are pursuing.”

Read the full marked up amendment here:

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/kyl-lieberman.pdf

[bdamomma]

1. yes, check this out too.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:SP03017:

and this


http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm

if you need more information.

[BridgeTheGap]

2. Why do Dems keep voting for this shit!?!

Don't they get it?

[Individualist]

4. They get it

This is why the DLC is dangerous. For all their claims of supposedly wanting to help Democrats, they employ people like Marshall Wittman who specifically try to undermine the Democratic Party, even if it means he has to publicly defecate out the most rank and easily-debunkable lies. They reguarly give credence to the right wing's agenda and its worst, most unsupportable lies. They are the real force that tries to make sure this country is a one party state and that Democrats never really challenge the Republicans in a serious way. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/why-the-dlc-is-so-dangero_b_13640.html

"The Democratic Leadership Council's agenda is indistinguishable from the Republican Neoconservative agenda," http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Kucinich_DLC_agenda_undistinguishable_from_Neocon_0813.html

[Desertrose]

8. (You're right)...

They know what they are doing & who they owe allegiance to and it ain't the American people.....

[Tesha]

18. Bingo. Sad, but true. (NT)

[RiverStone]

20. KICK this post!

The lines between the party elite of the rethugs and Dems blurs more everyday....before you know it --- we won't be able to tell them apart.

Why is the DEM party I've voted for my entire voting life leaving me???

[Desertrose]

6. I don't think they do....

or they don't care....


This is a big mistake....or should I say ANOTHER BIG mistake.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Ok who voted for this vile thing?

and yes, there will be war...

Thanks to all of those who called, emailed, and screamed at your Senators

In my view these two should be issued a rifle and sent to the front lines to lead the assault.

Tnank Alice, why am I not surprised

Feinstein voted for this, give her a damn rifle too

And Boxer voted against it.

Hell most of the Senate vote for this... only 22 souls didn't

Here is the roll call

Home > Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote


U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate


Vote Summary

Question: On the Amendment (Kyl Amdt. No. 3017 as Modified )
Vote Number: 349 Vote Date: September 26, 2007, 12:44 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 3017 to S.Amdt. 2011 to H.R. 1585 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008)
Statement of Purpose: To express the sense of the Senate regarding Iran.
Vote Counts: YEAs 76
NAYs 22
Not Voting 2
Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


Alphabetical by Senator Name Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Nay
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Cardin (D-MD), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Nay
Dole (R-NC), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Nay
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Nay
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Nay
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (ID-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Nay
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Not Voting
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Not Voting
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Nay
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Nay
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Nay

Vote Summary By Senator Name By Vote Position By Home State


Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---76
Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lott (R-MS)
Martinez (R-FL)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)

NAYs ---22
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Dodd (D-CT)
Feingold (D-WI)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 2
McCain (R-AZ)
Obama (D-IL)



Give those who voted for this rifles and to the front lines they go... have them take point... I am tired of old white (mostly) males sending young kids to die in a war they are not willing to fight themselves

[ananda]

5. Boy, it sure is fun living in a country

where people don't matter at all.

Sarcasm.

[Cha]

7. Fucking lieman..hope the majority

of Connecticut voters are ecstactic about another fucking bombing the shyte outta of another ME country.

[connecticut yankee]

9. Note that Hillary

is on the "Yea" list.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1911532

[emilyg]

19. and note Obama did not vote.

[Javaman]

36. And note that the cesspool still isn't drained. nt

[graywarrior]

10. Unbelievable. . .and yet, I am not surprised.

They don't give a fiddler's fuck what we say.

[RiverStone]

11. Clinton and Reid voted YEA - WTF!!?? n/t

[Tesha]

21. If I said "owned by AIPAC", would I get called an anti-semite? (NT)

[Virginia Dare]

24. Yes, IF you did, you would...n/t

[Tesha]

32. Okay. She's owned by AIPAC. (NT)

[Virginia Dare]

34. .....

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/03/11/moran.jews/

don your asbestos suit.

[connecticut yankee]

38. I couldn't agree more

[fasttense]

12. So, when do the bushes start dropping bombs on Iran? n/t

[cali]

13. anyone seen a list of

the vote count?

[goodgd_yall]

14. This indicates the most offensive language was taken out

It actually changed quite a bit, if I'm reading the link correctly. That one struck-out paragraph was pretty much giving the go-ahead for war with Iraq. Now it is more full of testimony from Petraeus and Crocker.

[Virginia Dare]

26. True, it went from being a complete and utter piece of crap..

to just a piece of crap.

[goodgd_yall]

28. Right on---but it got pretty watered down

At least it shows there actually was opposition to the ticket-to-war mentality in the original amendment.

[rurallib]

15. Obama not voting?

Uh Barack, it is getting hard to explain this.

[Connie_Corleone]

17. I just can't see any logical reason for not voting on this and the Biden amendment.

[RiverStone]

23. yea - it's not the only vote he has missed recently....

:shrug:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. IWR redux.

And, we can look forward to the same lame excuses for voting for it that we received then.

"Doh, I didn't think we'd really go to war."

[Individualist]

25. and DLCers will tell you it's not a vote for war, just as they did with IWR.

:puke:

[Old and In the Way]

22. You just know Cheney will view this as a green light to bomb Iran.

And then the cowardly Senators can wring their hands and tell us that they had no idea this would be used as a pretext to start another war. What the fuck is wrong with the Senate Democrats? Not only could this facilitate another war, but Bush-Cheney just might create the domestic conditions necessary to declare martial law. Unbelievable.

[goodgd_yall]

27. DUers, Read the link----the amendment is NOT what it was originally

The agressive warmongering language was taken out.

[Virginia Dare]

29. Unfortunately, it opens the door to keeping status quo in Iraq though..

or even stepping it up more. I think that was Webb's fear. We're going to fight Iran in Iraq.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm feeling rather pessimistic about this right now.

[goodgd_yall]

35. Right, now that I've read the whole amendment, I can see it offers

a new reason to be and continue to be in Iraq. We've go a new enemy now.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

30. It still designates the Iran Guard...

as a "terrorist" organization and affirms Petreaues' testimony about Iran's alleged involvement with Iraq.

IMO, if it were harmless, why did 22 Sentors vote against it? Including mosts of those who so correctly voted against the IRW?

What do they know that the others don't????

[goodgd_yall]

33. Yeah, the use of Petraeus's and Crocker's testimony

irks me. No questioning of it's truthfulness or bias there.

[Breeze54]

31. Unbelievable!!!

:grr:

LIEberman & Kyl need to be drawn and quartered and tarred and feathered!!

And any Dems that voted for this! Do we have their names yet?

:argh:

[Javaman]

37. Sadly, nothing surprises me anymore.

moron* and his enablers are sprinting toward Iran and their ain't shit we can do short of running them out on a rail.

we are now Rome.

[orleans]

39. sigh. n/t