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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:03 PM
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The Evidence against the Lieberman-Kyl Amendment !
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 01:12 PM by RiverStone
Can someone please tell me WTF so many on The Hill, including many DEMS, refuse to hear the truth?

With so many prominent Dems (including Reid and Clinton) voting for the damn thing, I can only ask - why does it feel my party (or the control of it) is shifting more to the right every day???

See the EVIDENCE link below:

ON EDIT: I may be pissed, but I gotta give credit to the NAY voters:

Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Dodd (D-CT)
Feingold (D-WI)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)


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The Evidence against the Lieberman-Kyl Amendment

By Gareth Porter
afterdowningstreet.org

1. The administration has not come forward with a single piece of concrete evidence to support the claim that the Iranian government has been involved in the training, arming or advising of Iraqi Shiite militias.

• At the same briefing, officials displayed one EFP and some fragments but did not claim that there was any forensic evidence linking that or any other AFP to Iran. (New York Times, February 12, 2007; Washington Post, February 12, 2007)

• One of the briefers at the February briefing admitted that it was only Iraqi smugglers who brought weapons into Iraq, explaining why no direct Iranian involvement could be documented (Washington Post, February 12, 2007).

• The official briefer who was a specialist on explosives, Maj. Marty Weber, claimed in a later interview that the use of “passive infrared sensors” in the deployment of EFPs in Iraq was “one of the strongest markers of Iranian involvement” in the traffic. But he admitted in the same interview that the electronic components needed to make the sensors found in Iraq were “easily available off the shelf at places like RadioShack.” (New York Times, February 25, 2007)

• Another official who participated in the briefing, Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell IV, denied that the military was claiming that Iran was behind the traffic in arms to Iraq. He said in a follow-up press briefing on February 14, “What we are saying is that within Iran, that these EFP component parts are being manufactured. Within Iran weapons and munitions are being manufactured that are ending up in Iraq. And we are asking the Iranian government to assist in stopping that from happening. There’s no intent to do anything other than that.”

tons more here:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/27143

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:20 PM
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1. Thanks. That's a very tiny group of honest people there.
There's little comfort in that. Good people. Just like DU'ers. There isn't much left now. I tend to be negative, but I don't tend to give up. Today I feel lost. There isn't much left. Americans are a dumb group. I'm ashamed of my country.
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