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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:35 PM
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Senate Urges Power-Sharing in Iraq

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Still, the resolution underscores a bipartisan longing in Congress for a fresh diplomatic approach in Iraq. It also was a victory for presidential hopeful Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., a primary sponsor of the resolution along with Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan.

Biden advocates establishing a power-sharing agreement among ethnic factions similar to the one established in Bosnia in the 1990s. The U.S. has focused too much on trying to prop up a strong, central unified government in Baghdad, he said.

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The resolution is the only war-related measure that has been able to overcome the Senate's 60-vote threshold since debate began this month on a defense policy bill. Last week, the Senate rejected three Democratic proposals aimed at limiting troop deployments or ending combat.

Voting for Biden's proposal were 26 Republicans, two Independents and 47 Democrats. Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., joined 22 Republicans in opposing the measure.

the rest...


I like this plan.

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:38 PM
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1. Oh yeah, I would just love someone like China demanding the USA is to be split up
No American can have a say. China is going to tell us how we are to be split and who goes where.

Good plan.

Not!

Iraq should be the ones to decide what happens to their country. Not the occupiers.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:45 PM
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2. I think it makes sense -there are three large factions
who can't work together, so having 'states' for each of them to govern and be free to practice their religion and customs without getting blown up, in the Iraqi 'union' seems like it might be good solution.

this paragraph from the article may make you feel better:
"The 75-23 vote marked the first agreement on Iraq among lawmakers in months, although it would have little practical effect. Republicans agreed to swing behind the nonbinding measure after it was amended to make clear that Bush should press for a new federalized system only if the Iraqis want it."

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:52 PM
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3. Americans and American appointed puppet government
has decided that this makes sense.

But no one bothered to step out of the heavily fortified Green Zone and ask any of the devastated people want they want. WE decided there are three zones.

WE decided well Kurds you can have this part, all non-Kurds leave your homes. You lose them. YOU can't stay there any more. WE have decided.

Okay Sunnis you can have this part, all non-Sunnis abandon all you know and own and go somewhere else. WE will tell you where that somewhere else will be.

And so on.

There are plenty of different sects in Iraq than just three. But no, WE know best and WE as the all mighty occupiers are going to tell everyone who goes where.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:56 PM
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4. but the Iraqis wrote this idea into their constitution
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/26/380756.aspx

In a news conference after the vote, Biden said his plan is consistent with the Iraqi constitution which calls Iraq to be made up of "a decentralized capital, regions, and governorates, and local administrations." Biden says this plan illustrates how to "end this war in a way that we are able to ultimately to bring our troops home and leave a stable Iraq behind... is consistent with the Iraqi constitution." He described it as "pushing on an open door."

The bipartisan measure also calls on the five permanent members of the United Nations and members of the international community to convene a conference to help the Iraqis set up the federal regions. "We all agree... it's time to make Iraq the world's problem, not just ours."




what would your solution be?

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:03 PM
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5. The Iraqi puppet government is the bi-ruler of the Green Zone
The Iraqi puppet government can make rules which are effective over Green Zone occupants, only if Americans don't overrule them.

The Iraqi puppet government sole goal is to grab as much of the US defense budget money for their own pockets.

The only time these Green Zone corrupt puppets have seen a real live Iraqi is if they catch a glimpse of one from their speeding bullet-proofed limo surrounded by Blackwater security guards.

No one knows what Iraqis want. Riverbend has written in her diary that she hates, hates, hates the federated Iraqi idea. Iraq is Iraq she said. It is one. What all Iraqis want, I don't know. Neither does anyone I expect.
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