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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:45 PM
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General Pace must be channeling Ahmadinejad on gays.
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 04:47 PM by Tierra_y_Libertad
The good marine general must have never visited a marine barracks or accompanied them on liberty if he thinks that "morality" is even in the running with booze, women, and even (gasp) homosexuslity.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/09/26/national/w140838D97.DTL

Gen. Pace: Homosexual Acts Immoral

By ANNE FLAHERTY, Associated Press Writer


Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, caused a stir at a Senate hearing Wednesday when he said he believes homosexual activity is immoral and should not be condoned by the military.

"Are there wonderful Americans who happen to be homosexual serving in the military? Yes," he told the Senate Appropriations Committee during a hearing focused on the Pentagon's 2008 war spending request.

"We need to be very precise then, about what I said wearing my stars and being very conscious of it," he added. "And that was very simply that we should respect those who want to serve the nation, but not through the law of the land condone activity in my upbringing is counter to God's law."

"I would be very willing and able and supportive" to changes to the policy "to continue to allow the homosexual community to contribute to the nation without condoning what I believe to be activity — whether it to be heterosexual or homosexual — that in my upbringing is not right," Pace said.

Pace noted that the U.S. Military Code of Justice prohibits homosexual activity as well as adultery. Harkin said, "Well, maybe we should change that."
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:51 PM
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1. some big parts left out of what he said.
unless i am completely mistaken he defined adultery as sexual relations between people of the same sex, or of people of opposite sex, outside of marriage- including single people in a consensual relationship outside the 'marriage' bonds.

Which would put an awful lot of people in court martial trials.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:54 PM
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3. If they'd enforced that when I was in they could have courts-martialled 90% of my outfit.
Including the exalted officers.
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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:01 PM
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4. the military only punishes adultery
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 05:04 PM by PDenton
when it involves a married or cohabitating party. It is not simply "fornication" or sleeping around. This might seem quaint to civilians but the military doesn't want any disruption to the effectiveness of their units, and they don't want to deal with the hassles that come about because people get jealous and are bothered by things other than their mission. There are also rules against fraternization for the same reasons. If this seems like too much, well, the military is not for everybody. People who want to live soap opera lives don't have to join an all-volunteer force that is dedicated to protecting every citizen's life and liberty. It is serious business and the military expects people who serve to have a likewise professional demeanor.

I'm in favor of allowing gays to serve openly in the military as long as their behavior doesn't interfere with unit readiness or cohesion and they don't commit adultery (as defined by the previous paragraph). I don't believe there is a good reason to prevent it.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:53 PM
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2. And from what we learned over the Betrayus controversy. . .
. . .Generals are off limits :sarcasm:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:02 PM
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5. Does the term "Gay" now include Lesbians?
Just wonderin'......
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