Yikes!! Scary Freeper/Libertarian in class today!!

[bicentennial_baby]

So I was in Philosophy class today, and it was a presentation day. What goes down is that each chapter of the book is assigned to one or two students, and they do a recap of that chapter for the class. The data, relevant points, etc, etc...The book in question is "The Truth About Drug Companies", by Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine.

Sooo...The guy doing today's presentation is sitting next to me. I'm already creeped out by his shirt, the back of which says "Spreading Freedom, One Deployment at a Time". Below that there are the names of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, with city names below each one. Y'know, like a band's tour shirt.

:puke:

Ok, so he gets up to do his presentation, and instead of doing what he was supposed to, he launches into this incredibly harsh criticism of the author and her viewpoint, and railing against the FDA, and praising the drug companies. :crazy:

My Prof keeps interuppting him and asking him to tell us what the book actually says, but he wouldn't do it.

At the end, my Prof was asking him various questions, and asked him "Are you proposing we abolish the FDA?" The guy says "Yes! I think people should just take drugs at their own risk. The FDA is a bloated bureaucracy, and hey, if people die, they die." :o

And then my Prof asked him how he felt about the efficiency/capability of the U.S. military. To which he responds "Actually, I think defense contractors are far more efficient." Someone else says "You mean, like Blackwater?"

He says "Yep! Blackwater, Halliburton...I plan on working for one of them when I graduate, and I can't wait!"

The sound of jaws hitting the floor was deafening... :wow:

And there's my Freeper encounter for today. :scared:

[trumad]

1. Bring in enlistment papers tomorrow....

[Ahpook]

21. Exactly what i would do...

Although, he will say "no" since his beautiful little mind is stuck on the Blackwater thing.:mad:


Or he'll just try to beat you up. You know how these clowns operate.

[devilgrrl]

2. Hope he gets a big fat "F"

He obviously didn't do what he was told, why would he pass?

[bicentennial_baby]

4. I can't wait to see him present for the Iraq book later on...

Titled "Fiasco" :rofl:

Yeah, he definitely got on my Prof's bad side today, most def.

[goodgd_yall]

3. You're lucky jaws dropped

In some colleges in certain regions of this country, that wouldn't happen.

[bicentennial_baby]

5. Yeah, I'm in Boston

Whew! Not much danger of that here! :D

[berni_mccoy]

6. You should ask why he's wasting time in College then. Sign up for Iraq. Of course...

Blackwater and Haliburton won't touch him unless he's got military experience under his belt, so he'll have to be a soldier first.

[bicentennial_baby]

7. Actually, I think he did serve already...

he was talking to a girl before class and mentioned something about being in the Marines. No excuse though, imo.

[berni_mccoy]

8. If he's served, has all limbs, I'm surprised the military would let him go.

I think he's just talking shit to a girl. Ask him what division he served in, what squad, platoon and details about his buddies. Why isn't he there for them?

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Hey, if he served, also ask questions

about operations, awards and as Bernie said, why the hell he left his budies behind? After all Marines don't leave their buddies behind

[bicentennial_baby]

12. Maybe I'll do just that...

And I'm sure my class would love it...The looks of horror were all around at the end of class. Hell, I'm brave :D

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. He reads, from your description as a poser

he may have been in the Marines, and did one tour and perhaps never deployed. Those are rare, but they do happen...

The other big give away... troops who have been under fire do not talk the big game. The big game is proportional to how far you've been from the front lines... it goes up, the farther away you are from the actual shooting, killing or be killed

[me b zola]

24. He might have all of his limbs, but he seems to be missing a few marbles

[unpossibles]

16. yeah, in the 82nd Chairborne. n/t

[me b zola]

28. Which makes his anti-government rant hypocritical

I wonder if he turned down (socialized) medical care while he was active duty. Is he going to school on the GI Bill?

[nadinbrzezinski]

Shirt is classic for what military personnel who HAVE

deployed tend to at times wear.

Usually in the privacy of a military base though, where the joke is understood for what it is... quite a bit of sarcasm

I suspect your "friend" has not deployed... nor served in the military, so the joke is missed on him.

Bring the DD-4 to class tomorrow, them are enlistment papers

Hey, you are just trying to help. Halliburton will not look at him if he does not have at least three combat deployments under his belt wiht front line combat units. So recommend the Marines, and Infantry as his primary MOS, or the Navy and SEALS, or perhaps the army and again infantry as his primary MOS.

He wants to go fight a war... sure, I ain't gonna stop him

[Mountainman]

9. If he works for one of those defense contractors in-country chances are he won't

live to span many offspring.

[nosmokes]

11. In truth, the FDA is fairly worthless as a regulatory body, even more so

since Bushco has taken over. It's not as if they require any independent testing of products before they are unleashed on the public, even when the company peddling the new product has concerns if the political appointees overrule the science it's a done deal. GMOs being but one huge but very significant case in point. Hell, thanks to the FDA, we can't even get labels that tell us when the food we buy contains GMOs, much what type. So in a very real sense your classmate has a valid arguement, though for the wrong reason.

[bicentennial_baby]

13. Let's just say that I'd rather have the FDA than not...

A lot of the problems stem from congressional legislation during the Reagan era, more than anything.

[nosmokes]

17. Agreed. They're better'n nothin' but

not by a big stretch...;)

[bicentennial_baby]

18. After watching the Frontline about the Baycol fiasco,

I'd say we need mandatory reporting of adverse reactions, for starters, and also that they need to go directly from medical personnel to the FDA, and we need to put an end to the "Me too" drugs, and an end to Pharma companies doing any clinical trials. Those would be a HUGE step in the right direction. Also, adequately staff the FDA.

:)

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. Sounds like the type who will call David Horowitz to help him file a complaint

when he flunks the class.

[NutmegYankee]

19. Heh, that's just youthful bluster.

Wait till he has children and he'll rethink those positions. What father wants to watch his child die from faulty antibiotics.

[bicentennial_baby]

20. I almost brought that up to him...

But, I figured the point would be lost on him... :shrug:

[Ahpook]

22. Probably true...

He'll grow up and shit will start happening around him. I was carefree when i was younger as well. That always starts to change when you get a few years under your belt.

But, from the sounds of it he may not reach that stage in life anyway.

[NutmegYankee]

27. Likely so.

It's not called growing up for nothing.

[Blue Belle]

23. I'm surprised he's even in a philosophy class...

I can't wait till you get to the "Allegory of the Cave". He'll probably be lobbying for people to stay in their chains and fear the light.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. Probably mandatory

When in college we had some of these craaayyzees too... they were fun to be honest... I mean pick and nick and prick.

Of course that was twenty years ago

[Initech]

25. Yikes!!