I'm Sorry... But It's Gotta Be Said... We Suck !!!

[WillyT]

Kyl - Lieberman

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-gareth-porter/liebermankyl-vs-the-evi_b_66020.html

House Kisses GOP Ass

Link: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5icjoZfw9cxthDHzemr2CBJn0hSQg

WillyT: Doubts he can take 13 more months of this pathetic shit!

:evilfrown:

[madeline_con]

1. Speak for yourself. n/t

[WillyT]

4. LOL !!! - I'm Pretty Sure I Was !!!

See... that's why my name is attached to the post. Because I'm speaking for myself.

It's really not hard to understand a message board, once you get the hang of it.

:hi:

[madeline_con]

20. Never mind...

it'll just start an argument...

[WillyT]

22. You Know I've Always Loved You...

:loveya:

[madeline_con]

24. Well, now I just feel worse about what I almost said.

I'm SO sorry. Forgive me...

[Trajan]

2. I just ran across the Kyl-Liebermann thread ....

Pretty hideous, but dont let one buffoon roil your waters ..... We are stronger than this .... Arent we ?

[Uncle Joe]

17. The people in your photo suck so bad, even light can't escape their gravity. n/t

[AX10]

3. I would have never voted for this.

Even the watered down version is bad. There is no need to attack Iran.

[Ghost in the Machine]

5. "WE"?? Try "elected officials who don't represent the ones who elected them SUCK!"

What's this "we" shit?

The only thing "we" suck for is for not rising up in outrage and running those corrupt bastards OUT of our government...

[WillyT]

9. I Was Using The Royal "We".... Which Apparently, Is All Too Appropriate !!!

Didn't mean you directly Ghost.

:shrug:

[Ghost in the Machine]

13. I know you didn't mean me directly Willy. Mock outrage doesn't suit me...

[MisterHowdy]

6. no, we do, we really suck.

we don't protest in great enough numbers.
Too many of us are stupid and/or ignorant of politics.
We vote with our cocks.

[Mythsaje]

19. Hundreds of thousands protested... repeatedly...

and were ignored. Repeatedly.

[madeline_con]

21. I'm cockless.

And darned put out about it! :cry:

[unkachuck]

28. I have....

....an old one I haven't used in years, you can borrow it if you want?....

[MissWaverly]

7. I have hope

remember when Bush appeared before the UN no one applauded, other nations hear Bush beating the war drum, today the Spanish
officials have leaked documents by Bush saying that "war with Iraq was inevitable" ie he had no intention of seeking
a diplomatic solution. If other nations release documents spilling the truth about the last 6 years, there will be
no Iran War. Bush will be alone shunned by the world community.

[Generator]

8. The good news is

the Democrats really ARE underground now. OH MY GOD. This website is prophetic. I wish I was kidding.

[C_U_L8R]

10. hear that giant sucking sound

it is us : - O

but take heart, we suck less than the Republicans

[WillyT]

14. Yep... That'll Be Our Bumper Sticker !!!

WE SUCK LESS !!!

:banghead:

[madeline_con]

23. It's the self-deprecation that hurts us.

We need daily affirmations. Where's Stewart Smiley when we need him most? :grouphug:

[Tom Joad]

11. No, the Dem leadership sucks. Bush Sucks. US imperialism sucks. Not the people.

[parasim]

12. Which means that all of the elected officials suck...

so... "we" elected them. and in the case of Bush, we let him pretend to be elected.

[Tom Joad]

15. No, i did not elect Reid, lieberman, Clinton (never voted for a Clinton, never)

I voted for Barbara Lee.
She usually speaks for me.

[parasim]

18. Excellent point.

And I don't vote for those kind of politicians either. I'm in the Kucinich, Gravel camp, myself. But, personally, I am starting to come to the conclusion that we do suck (or, ok, maybe I suck), because I have been unable to convince enough people to vote for leaders that can actually bring a much needed change to our pretty effed up political system.

[Tom Joad]

29. I see your point there. Collectively the anti-war movement has serious shortcomings

We usually do our best.

I am not sure of the best way forward. Don't give up, that's all i can say.

[Purveyor]

16. Hell, I thought this was going to be a 'debate thread'... eom

[madeline_con]

26. It's more of an "I suck, too" thread. n/t

[Individualist]

25. DLC sucks

They've ruined the party.

[unkachuck]

27. "House Kisses GOP Ass"....

....just another day in the life of a grassroots Democrat....

[ronnie624]

30. Thank you.

Very interesting.

For those who have recently insisted that Iran is "sponsoring attacks in Iraq":

- Another official who participated in the briefing, Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell IV, denied that the military was claiming that Iran was behind the traffic in arms to Iraq.

- Carter Ham, deputy director for regional operations for the Joint Staff, continued to deny any knowledge of official Iranian complicity in EFP or any other arm supplies.

- Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, the U.S. Commander for southern Iraq, where most of the Shiite militias operate, admitted in a July 6 briefing that his troops had not captured "anybody that we can tie to Iran"

- On September 8, the commander for the northern region of Iraq, Maj. Gen. Thomas Turner II, admitted in a press briefing, "I don't think we have any specific proof of Iranians in our area other than reports.

- Despite the assertion by Gen. David Petraeus on September 12, quoted in the proposed Lieberman-Kyle amendment, that the U.S. military obtained evidence of the complicity of Iranian officials in arming and training Shiite militias from interrogations of the above detainees, it has not produced wither detainee or any transcript of the interrogations. Nor has it released a direct quote from either detainee. No apparent intelligence reason exists for withholding such evidence from Congress and the public.