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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:53 PM
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Will General Clark pull his endorsement of Hillary because of her vote today?
If he doesn't then his movement to Stop the Coming War in Iran is an exercise in hypocrisy!

http://www.stopiranwar.com/?page_id=10

see article:

Joe Lieberman is at it again
Wes Clark | June 12, 2007

After wrongly supporting George W. Bush’s strategic blunder of attacking Iraq, and continuing to support Bush’s failed policies after the invasion, Senator Joe Lieberman made irresponsible comments this weekend regarding military action against Iran.

On CBS’s Face the Nation, Lieberman said, “If don’t play by the rules, we’ve got to use our force, and to me, that would include taking military action to stop them from doing what they’re doing.”

This type of “tough-talk” by the Bush Administration and folks like Senator Joe Lieberman is why VoteVets.org and I collaborated to create StopIranWar.com, calling for heavy diplomatic, economic, and political action to discourage the acquisition of nuclear capabilities by the Iranian government. <more at: http://www.stopiranwar.com/?page_id=10 >


I have emailed the General through his website to ask for some answers with regard to his endorsement in light of his commentary! Join me! http://securingamerica.com/?q=feedback

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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:56 PM
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1. I bet you won't be getting any answers....
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:57 PM
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2. Politicians don't work that way. Loyal to each other, and what's another war between friends?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:58 PM
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3. I'll tell you what he will say
He will say that the resolution in stating that we have indications Iran is involved in supporting Shite and terror activity in Iraq was correct, he may take issue with labeling the Iranian Guard a terrorist entity. He will say that for the most part the resolution is stating what we know to be true and that is why we must get a strategy in place and begin real diplomacy in the region to prevent a widening conflict.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:58 PM
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4. I'm not up on the lastest Congressional atrocity...
Due to health reasons. I can only take so much, and this month so far has been horrific. Please tell me you aren't talking about the bill that would designate the Iranian guard as terrorists?
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:05 PM
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6. Yes I am.
Read the bill...that language is contained with a specific clause
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:08 PM
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7. They were already designated
by the State Department.

My read on the resolution is that it rejects military action despite the recent testimony and is a loss for Lieberman.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:14 PM
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8. It absolutely does not. read it again.
there are many loopholes that can permit them to strike iran. Launch missle strikes from inside Iraq as an example. If Iran responds to that act of agression, then all bets are off.

You have to think like an attorney...

The loopholes are there.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:18 PM
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10. Look, that resolution doesn't change anything.
What you suggest could have happened yesterday under current laws of our country.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:43 AM
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15. way to maneuver when confronted with the truth.....
The amendment is a green light and a legal cover for action.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:02 AM
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17. You'll point out where
for us I suppose? What section or part(s) of the resolution are you so concerned about?
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:29 PM
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18. I'm concerned about the entire resolution...try reading it
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:01 PM
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19. I have, 3 times and I think your assertion is
baseless.

This thread has a good discussion on it from both points of view.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3556725
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:59 PM
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5. No. nt
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:14 PM
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9. idiotic. nt.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:22 PM
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11. I actually feel bad for Clark - he's between a rock and a hard place...
Does he choose to stay true to his beliefs, or speak out against her???

:eyes:
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:23 PM
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12. It is hardly hypocrisy.
His statements stand on their own. His endorsement of Hillary is not an endorsement of today's vote. His endorsement is based on his belief in her qualifications to be President. He did not agree with her vote for the Iraq War either. The only way to get your perfect match for President is to run yourself. He tried that and realizes Hillary has a greater chance than he does. Just as he understands International diplomacy he understands the reality of politics.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:57 PM
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13. read the 1st paragraph again
After wrongly supporting George W. Bush’s strategic blunder of attacking Iraq, and continuing to support Bush’s failed policies after the invasion,...

As far as I know Clinton is not supporting Bush's policies right now.

I'm not standing up for Clinton because I'm a supporter. Nor am I partial to any of the candidates. Frankly, I like the whole lot of 'em less and less with each passing day. I don't trust them, or any member of congress anymore. Unless Gore runs, it's going to be business as usual.


Lieberman = :crazy:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:37 AM
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14. No - he won't.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:59 AM
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16. I pulled my support for him after he backed Hillary...
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:02 AM by deacon
You have a war here based on lies and you simply can't - wiggle into another war when the first war was wrong...this is insanity.

So you go into a world war situation based on a wrong assessment in the first place? It's insanity.
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