Saying Ahmadinejad is an asshole on DU isn't going to cause war with Iran

[ButterflyBlood]

Seriously. I have a tough time believing any comment here will be the tipping point that matters or not.

The people saying there must be absolutely no criticism of Iran or Ahmadinejad whatseover because we're spreading neocon propaganda and helping create a war or whatnot are delusional. And it reminds me of the Freepers screaming that liberals criticizing Bush & Co are helping kill US soldiers.

Seriously, we can say whatever the fuck we want on this site with not real consequences in the real world. So fuck Ahmadinejad.

[bluestateguy]

1. I don't like him because his name is too hard to pronounce and spell

So I have decided to just call him A-Mad from now on.

[WilliamPitt]

2. Ahmadinejad is an asshole

IIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCOMING!!!!!

...and by that, I mean the posts to follow.

*ducking and covering despite futility of it*

[ButterflyBlood]

3. Hey, at least there won't be any crows coming by

Once all the strawmen are erected.

[LostinVA]

6. Why do you support invading Iran, Freeper?

[WilliamPitt]

8. Your candidate sucks.

Nader. Nader at the Olive Garden. Nader at the Olive Garden with Aladimwhatever. Nader at the Olive Garden with Aladimwhatever and Hillary. Nader at the Olive Garden with Aladimwhatever and Hillary for 24 business hours.

Nader.

(that was fucking art, dude)

;)

[LostinVA]

10. I saw them at the Olive Garden with a Pit Bull

And Aladimwhatever was breastfeeding the pit bull, while smoking.

[cali]

4. I'm tired of the whole fuck so and so thing

(except foe bushco)but that's just me.

[Chulanowa]

5. Well, duh he's an asshole

Trouble is, those claiming him an asshole tend to single him out amid the many many other asshole rulers in the world, then proceedd to slap down talking points fresh out of the right-wing presses, generously laced with meaty half-truths and chewy outright lies. They then follow up by seconding the motion that Iran needs to 100% comply with all US demands before we so much as think about ceasing to tell Iran to go fuck themselves.

Calling him an asshole isn't the problem, it's all the other bullshit that's usually attendant with calling him an asshole.

[bridgit]

7. no i think he had a very valid point, i think *all* religions, as was mathematics...

physics, needle-point, agriculture, animal husbandry, the persian empire, etc; all of them including Islam should be re-visited for their want and/or lack of pertinence, application, translation and so on...re-visit all the sacred cows to see if they are still capable of the milk of human kindness

[Swamp Rat]

9. Lovely photo

;)

[IndianaJones]

11. you just dropped two bombs by posting this. nt.

[Lerkfish]

12. saying there's a hook inside the bait is not a bad thing

the hook is the Iran war, the bait, just like last time, is A VERY BAD DICTATOR whom we can all agree to hate (supposedly).
While we're dazzled by the pretty fly of arguing whether Ahmadinejad is bad guy or slightly more/less of a bad guy, the ENTIRE FREAKIN POINT OF THE PROPAGANDA is to make us feel justified when we preemptively invade Iran.

But thinking calling him an asshole will CAUSE the war, no, of course not. BUSHco will actually cause the war, no matter what happens. Calling Ahmadinejad an asshole just diffuses the perception of how morally bankrupt it would be start a THIRD WAR at this point.

a THIRD WAR, all running simulateanously.

[ButterflyBlood]

13. I haven't seen any DUers supporting war with Iran

By that I mean real DUers, not tombstoned Freepers. So this analogy clearly isn't true, bashing Ahmadinejad isn't causing people to support war with Iran.

[Lerkfish]

15. funny, I"ve been seeing that all day.

we must not be traveling in the same threads.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3551793&mesg_id=3551955



and either you meant your post for someone else, or you misunderstood me.
I'm in agreement that bashing ahmadinejad will not cause the war with IRan, nor cause people to support the war, per se.
Its just to make a little more palatable when it inevitably happens and its too late to do anything about it.
Then we''l hear the justifications: Well, at least its better than under (Saddam)Ahmadinejad.
Demonizing these leaders, whether accurately or not, is to distract or diffuse the realization of how morally bankrupt it would be to start yet another war against muslims.

[ButterflyBlood]

17. that's not supporting war

It's just someone citing polls. Polls also show a majority of Americans opposed to war with Iran.

[spoony]

19. You have a rather loose definition of "supporting war," then.

[blondeatlast]

22. Sadly, there's one, and s/he is pretty active. nt

[liberalmuse]

14. No, it's just weird...

having flashbacks of 2001 when just about everyone was saying, 'fuck Saddam' and 'Saddam is an asshole' and the next thing you know, we're bombing Iraq. It's not a coincidence that there is unreasonable, mass hatred for Ahmadinejad, a guy who fucks over his own citizens, but who has done absolutely nothing to America--same as Saddam. DUers aren't spreading propaganda. When that shit hits here, it's spread and the neocon think tanks earn their grants. Bush affects us personally. I understand Bush-hatred-and even then, it took me a few years to admit that I actually hated someone. I don't understand this surge of hate for the Iranian guy all of a sudden. I don't care for some of the man's policies or ideologies, but that's the extent of it. He's nothing. Another Bush-created boogeyman, just like Saddam. The 'fuck Ahmadinejad' I hear out of Americans mouths is ironic since our government's policies in Iraq are causing not only the executions of homosexuals, but rape, torture, kidnapping, mass slaughter, disease, misery, starvation, detainment, rendition, and the displacement of millions of human beings. Gee, that reminds me of something. THE HOLOCAUST. Collectively, we've murdered and persecuted more innocent people than Ahmadinejad. Think about it.

[kurth]

16. Ahmadinejad is a freakin' retard

[spoony]

18. Nor will the WH be quoting us in whatever sabre-rattling

they may do. Can you imagine? Lol.

Oh, and Ahmadinejad is an asshole.

[ButterflyBlood]

21. Too bad some DUers don't get that n/t

[Missy M]

20. Good, because I have been wanting to write....

Ahmadinejad is an ASSHOLE!!! One of the biggest around.

[applegrove]

23. Agreed!