DemocratSinceBirth
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Thu Sep-27-07 05:21 AM
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If you say someone has a "set" , "brass ones", or "cojones" is that being sexist and if you refer to a woman as having those characteristics is that being sexist?
Because , for better or worse, I think there's one candidate with a "set" but I censor myself from saying so because I don't want to use a word that is pejorative..
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Thu Sep-27-07 05:36 AM
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1. yes it is. is there a reason not to use "courage"? "brave"?... eom |
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Thu Sep-27-07 05:37 AM
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2. Bravery is not connected to genitalia. |
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Welcome to the 21st century.
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Thu Sep-27-07 05:42 AM
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"The word was famously used in 1996 by Madeleine Albright, then serving as the USA's ambassador to the United Nations, in the aftermath of the downing of a Hermanos al Rescate light civilian aircraft by Cuban airforce MiG 29s on 24 February 1996. Following the release of a transcript of radio traffic between the fighter pilots in which one exclaimed, ¡Le partimos los cojones! ("We busted his balls!"), Albright offered the following comment: "Frankly, this is not cojones. This is cowardice." Albright later described the vulgarism as "the only Spanish word I know".<[br />
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:11 AM
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13. Levels of aggression are. |
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Thu Sep-27-07 05:53 AM
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4. Quit being so damn PC and tell it like it is. |
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"set" , "brass ones", or "cojones" are just fine as descriptors for a strong woman.
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Thu Sep-27-07 06:16 AM
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7. Women can't have fortitude unless they have male anatomy? |
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Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:17 AM by MookieWilson
I can see that this expression would not offend a man.
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Thu Sep-27-07 08:39 AM
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usually connecting women with 'balls" in our culture has a negative meaning. It doesn't mean "strong," it means she's an unfeminine brassy bitch. Or something like that.
Smart men avoid it.
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Thu Sep-27-07 06:08 AM
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5. I don't have a problem with the metaphor. But it is sexist, in assuming courage pertains to males. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:12 AM by Perry Logan
And to their genitals, no less. It's a cultural thing. But I don't believe people who use the metaphor are sexist for doing so.
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Captain Hilts
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Thu Sep-27-07 06:14 AM
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6. It's like complimenting a black person by saying, "that's awfully white of you." |
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Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:15 AM by MookieWilson
It suggests that women are inadequate if they don't have balls.
Just as complimenting a black person for acting 'white' suggests they are inadequate for not being white.
It's meant as a compliment, but ultimately, is not if you're on the receiving end.
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Thu Sep-27-07 06:19 AM
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8. I'm Not Going To Use The Word... |
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But there's a difference between colorful language and fighting words... Telling a black person they are "acting white" is fighting words...I don't think using "set" as a euphenism for strong rises to that level...
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Captain Hilts
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Thu Sep-27-07 06:35 AM
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9. No, that's not the same expression. Watch the movie, Bringing Up Baby... |
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Cary Grant uses the expression - which I remember hearing as a kid - "that's awfully white of you."
It's meant as a compliment. Whites used it to blacks and to other whites.
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Thu Sep-27-07 06:41 AM
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Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:59 AM by nofurylike
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Thu Sep-27-07 06:43 AM
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met a group of people so concerned about language in my entire life. I am tired of people telling me what is the correct thing to say. The left can be as dictatorial as the right.
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:09 AM
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12. I walked into my office one morning and there on my desk was a set of steel ball bearings |
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Taped to a piece of cardboard. They had been left there by a peer. I took it as a compliment.
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:14 AM
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14. I prefer the use of "huevos" over "cojones". |
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It really can be gender neutral.
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:32 AM
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17. Complimenting someone for having 'nads is gender neutral. Not 'cojones'. nt |
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:21 AM
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15. It implies men naturally are the ones with the strength n/t |
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Thu Sep-27-07 07:29 AM
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16. It implies that men naturally are the ones with MORAL strength as well. nt |
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