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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:22 PM
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AMW: Help IDENTIFY this man! (pics of child rapist, from video)
http://www.amw.com/features/feature_story_detail.cfm?id=2169

..and his victim, poor baby.

Authorities also have new information about the 4 to 5-year old girl at the center of the investigation. Police say that the video was made between 2003 and 2004 due to the make of the television and electronic equipment seen on the tape. They also say that the lingerie the girl is wearing was manufactured in the spring of 2003 by a company in North Carolina.

AMW has also received new digitally enhanced photos of the girl and the unknown man. Nye County Sheriff's detectives are asking for the public's help in identifying both girls and the unidentified male from the video. Tips can be sent in through www.amw.com or by calling 1-800-CRIME-TV. You can remain anonymous.






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When 26-year-old Darren Tuck handed in a videotape to Nevada authorities on September 8, 2007, it began an investigation into an appalling case of sexual abuse against a child. On the tape, authorities say, are disturbing images of an adult male sexually assaulting an adolescent girl.

Detective David Boruchowitz told AMW that Tuck claimed he found the tape out in the desert, but cops believe that Tuck had the video for five months prior and was showing it to friends. Police also say that the video does not have the wear and tear that one would expect it to have from desert exposure.

While Tuck isn't seen on the video, cops say that an unknown adult male can be seen performing sexual acts on an unidentified young girl. The girl looks to be between the ages of 4 and 5 and police have few clues as to who the girl is or where she's from. Detectives say that they don't believe Tuck made the tape and they are currently trying to ascertain the identities and location of both the little girl and the adult male.



Then 4-5 year old victim:



:cry:

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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:25 PM
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1. I can't even comment...
I hope they catch the bastard. What the hell kind of person...
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:27 PM
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3. this needs the kind of publicity the Maddy McCann case is getting...
My fear is this tape was made outside the US.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:27 PM
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4. Don't just hope. Spread the word.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:26 PM
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2. People should check out all the info on two previous threads and come back here:
Nevada deputies looking for (4 or 5 year old) girl, man in explicit sex tape (warning photo of girl)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1907155


UPDATE: 2nd girl from porn tape FOUND--Still looking for the little girl age 4-5
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1919880
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:28 PM
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5. Someone find this f*** and throw his ass in the Supermax
It's the only good use of that place I can think of.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:28 PM
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6. A 4 or 5 year old. I cannot get over this. And look how she's
dressed, poor baby.

This is just one of those things where I think capital punishment is in order. There's no rehabilitating someone like this. No way. This is depravity to the max.

Being charitable would be a life sentence in the general population after castration with a rusty butter knife.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:31 PM
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7. K. I don't believe in the death penalty under any circumstances,
but I'd not shy away from endorsing the treatment that child abusers usually get in prison. I'm ashamed to say that, but I'm only human--and a mom.

:mad:
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:34 PM
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9. Another good question: Hasn't anyone reported her missing?
If not, that leaves one to wonder if that SOB is her biological parent or something. If that's the case, shouldn't she be school age at this time (7 or 8yo)? Is she being kept out of school?

The very idea that a person could get away with enslaving/abusing a child for this long tells you all you need to know about this society.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:33 PM
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16. That's probably what happened.
The man in the video still looks like he could be her father or a relative. It's entirely possible that she's never been reported missing or abused because her family is part of the abuse.

Poor little person. I hope that she is still alive. I hope that somebody finds her and takes care of her.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:15 PM
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13. the reason I'm opposed to the death penalty for this man
... is that his life in prison, whether it be long or short (and I hope it's long), would be a nonstop, unremitting, and deeply personal understanding of what he did to that little girl.

Even the most hardened criminals loathe pedophiles.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:33 PM
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8. There is an error in the statement at the link. She's not an "adolescent girl."
She's a toddler.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:35 PM
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10. That's right. *bangs face on desk in disgust* nt
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:35 PM
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11. it said there was a second, older girl in the video
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 12:38 PM by npincus
whom I believe has been identified (another update).

here: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/27/national/main3303528.shtml
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:29 PM
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14. I know, but she wasn't assaulted. It's the toddler that was assaulted.
The text at the link is wrong. Here it is, verbatim. It's incorrect. The tape contains images of the man raping a toddler.

On the tape, authorities say, are disturbing images of an adult male sexually assaulting an adolescent girl.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:31 PM
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15. I'm making a point of this because it's important.
I hope that America's Most Wanted corrects the text. I hope it was simply an error on the part of whomever wrote the text.

However, it reminds me of the media coverage of the rape and murder by U.S. troops of the little girl in Iraq. Media in the U.S. kept reporting that a "woman" was raped and murdered. She was fourteen. This may be a "woman" in some people's minds, but most of us recognize fourteen as a child.

Describing a toddler as "adolescent," when the term refers to someone who is sexually nearing maturity, is flat-out wrong.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:42 PM
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12. What a horrific, horrific story.
I hope they catch the sick fuck.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:52 PM
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17. OMG! I think I know her. Look at the little girl in this picture and see what you think.
I met this woman at my restaurant back around the beginning of December and started dating her. She was from Nevada and said she was running from an "abusive boyfriend". She was staying in the motel that my restaurant shared a parking lot with.

Long story short, I let her move in with me but kicked her out about 4 weeks later (right after christmas) when I caught her stealing money from me and using meth.

She wound up staying with some long haul trucker, taking care of his house and kids while he was on the road. A few weeks later, I heard she was on the run because she had taken the trucker's 13 year old daughter over to meet some 26 year old guy.... who raped the 13 year old....

This may be nothing, but it never hurts to check and be 100% sure..



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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:56 PM
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18. I'm confused. Is the girl in the picture you posted that 13 year old?
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 01:58 PM by iconoclastic cat
If so, she'd be too old to be the girl in the OP. That girl is 4 or 5 in 2003 or 2004.

Edited to add: What is going on in that picture, anyway?
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:03 PM
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20. The girl in this picture was 6 years old at the time taken in Dec 07
The OP is talking about a 4-5 year old...

That's my buddy Buff Bagwell signing autographs for people at my restaurant when I did a fundraiser for Toys for Tots last year. I put on a wrestling show to raise money for the cause....
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:07 PM
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21. So, how is she related to your story?
Sorry to be drilling you like this, but I don't get the connection between the girl in that photo and your story.

The girl in your pic would be about the right age, then.

It does kind of look like the girl in the video. Her outfit is bizarre, too.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:18 PM
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24. Well let's see.. the girl in the video is from nevada. the girl in *my* picture
is from Nevada. The mother was supposedly on the run from an "abusive boyfriend", but is now on the run for accessory to and facilitation of rape of a 13 year old.

Follow the facts of the story. You answered your own question.

"Sorry to be drilling you like this, but I don't get the connection between the girl in that photo and your story.

The girl in your pic would be about the right age, then.

It does kind of look like the girl in the video. Her outfit is bizarre, too. "


One thing that always creeped me out too was that the mother always dressed this girl kind of provocatively and was always saying "look at her little butt shake when she walks" and always telling the girl to "shake that thang, baby"...
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:22 PM
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26. Okay, I missed the part about that girl being your ex's daughter.
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 02:23 PM by iconoclastic cat
Sorry. Well, I do think she looks a bit like the girl in the article, but others have posted about eye color being different.

Did you notice anything odd about the girl's personality?

Edited to add: Do you think you should call the Nye County folks? I suppose any leads would be helpful.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:26 PM
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28. Like I said... it could be nothing... but when I saw that picture in the OP
this little girl just jumped into my mind... then with the Nevada connection and all... hey, you never know, huh?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:53 PM
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34. I hope that you call the authorities in any case.
The little girl in your photo does look like she could be the same girl who was in the video. But for sure, the little girl in your photo is not in a good home situation. I hope that you report your ex to the authorities. She doesn't need to live with a woman who takes a 13 year old over to a man's house to be raped.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:01 PM
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19. I don't think it's the same girl. Very different noses, IMO. nm
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:08 PM
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22. Eye color doesn't match. n/t
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:11 PM
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23. Did you blow it up or something? I can't tell from the pic in the post. nt
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:21 PM
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25. Please provide a side by side comparison that you based that on.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:24 PM
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27. In your pic the girl has brown eyes -- in the OP they are light
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 02:26 PM by Emit
Edited to add, lips are diffeernet shape, too. BTW, I have a background in art and have done a few portraits -- these things pop out at me.


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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:30 PM
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29. I just blew both up to 1500% in PS and I'm seeing green pixels in her iris. nt
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:40 PM
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32. In the OP pic or the other pic that Ghost in the Machine posted? n/t
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 02:41 PM by Emit
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:34 PM
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35. I blew up the pic in the OP and the one that Ghost posted. nt
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:32 PM
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30. Her eyes in my picture look like dark spots with a white center where the flash
went off..

BTW, showing me both pictures again isn't a side by side analysis..

I've got a meeting to go to in a minute, but I'll see if I don't have a "grainy" pic of her on my cell phone when I get back..

Why didn't you include the other picture from the OP that looks more like her than the one you used?
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:40 PM
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31. Um, well, my computer skills are lacking considerably, so, your demand for a side by
side "analysis" resulting in me showing you both pics again. :shrug:

And the reason I didn't use the other pic in teh OP is that it lacked color and was grainy, IMO, and the girl's face seemed a little distorted from the angle.

Often times, when people who have brown eyes have photos taken, the iris shows as a glare -- a white spot. That's another reason I thought the girl in the pic you posted had darker eyes than the girl in the OP.

Nevertheless, I still think there are other differing facial features that lead me to believe they are not the same girl.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:36 PM
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36. Well, I took screenshots of her eyes from the OP and Ghost's photo
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 03:38 PM by iconoclastic cat
and enlarged the image to 1px per inch. Both contain shades of green.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:52 PM
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33. There appears to be two girls?
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:37 PM
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37. The older one has been identified and she is fine. nt
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:23 PM
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38. I just showed this picture to my daughter and asked her who it looked like
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 04:24 PM by Ghost in the Machine
the first thing out of her mouth? "Kayla"....

here's a pic from my cell phone, and I'm looking through all of my discs for other pics...



Edited: added "who" to the subject line
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:50 PM
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39. Man, I would contact the authorities. No harm done if it's not her.
You might want to write an account of your experience with your ex as well as the comparisons to the images that have been released.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:53 PM
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40. Is it these two you're comparing?
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:20 PM
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41. I see you still use the picture that looks less like the one I posted
do you have some interest in shooting this down?

NO, I'm comparing THIS picture



to THIS picture:



What's your problem?
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:33 PM
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42. Your accusatory words are uncalled for.
If you think your pic looks like the girl they're trying to find, call someone.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:58 PM
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43. Sorry, but I've just seen threads break down before because of
pedophile apologists and defenders. I just wanted to head that off at the pass. Sometimes I'm just too blunt for my own good.

You've got a star, you can search the archives if you'd like, but most of the replies were deleted and the threads are locked.

I'm a little more calm right now, but I was filled with raw emotion over this earlier. You see, I had skimmed through a little about this last night while I was tired and half asleep and my first thought then was "that looks kinda like a young version of Kayla", but for some reason I thought it happened in North Carolina, and just recently. When I re-read it today and saw that it was Nevada and the tape was a couple years old I kinda freaked a little bit.

Upon going back and reading again I saw that it was the lingerie the girl was wearing that was made in NC and thats where I got the NC connection...

Peace..
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:33 PM
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44. If I were you this is what I would do:
Visit nyesheriff.net there is a link there to contact them with any info. Relay the entire story (in the pics it looks like the 4-5 yr. old could be in a hotel room) and send them your photos. If they think there is a resemblance, then they'll know they need to cast a much wider net, and that mom is on the run with her again.

If they don't think that it's the same child, then you will also have peace of mind.

I've seen a couple of vehicles during the past couple of months with Nevada tags, and I've been trying really hard to remember the occupants in the vehicles.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:54 PM
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45. I agree with tnlefty. It would ease your mind to know one way or the other.
And I'm sure the authorities have facial recognition software which could detect whether or not the two of them are the same person.
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