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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:22 PM
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"Bin Laden may have just escaped U.S. forces" Again?
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 05:26 PM by Cleita
August mission in Tora Bora almost snared 'high value target'

A little more than a month ago, with the anniversary of Sept. 11 approaching and fears of a new al Qaeda attack rising, some U.S. intelligence and military analysts thought they had found one of the world’s two most wanted men just where they last saw them six years ago.

For three days and nights — between Aug. 14 and 16 — U.S. and Afghanistan forces pounded the mountain caves in Tora Bora, the same caves where Osama Bin Laden had hidden out and then fled in late 2001 after U.S. forces drove al Qaeda out of Afghanistan cities. Ultimately, however, U.S. forces failed to find Bin Laden or his deputy, Ayman al Zawahiri, even though their attacks left dozens of al Qaeda and Taliban dead.

One of the officials interviewed by NBC News, a general officer, admitted Tuesday that it was “possible” Bin Laden was at Tora Bora, saying, in fact, "I still don’t know if he was there."

Still, some in the special operations and intelligence community are telling NBC News that there was a lack of coordination particularly in the choice of support troops. But with intelligence limited on who was there, no one is willing to say that the lack of key units permitted Bin Laden or Zawahiri to escape.
More..


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21000298/

Peculiar.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:23 PM
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1. D'oh!
Letting that bastard run around at large is just unforgiveable. What a bunch of miserable fuckups run our country.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:24 PM
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2. D'oh!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:45 PM
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8. D'oh!
Make it a 3-for!
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:25 PM
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3. Can't Wait To Hear Limbaugh & Hannity Berate Bush For This
After all, CLINTON "had Osama and let him go".

Damn, I'm tired of that rhetoric.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:26 PM
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4. Neocon Ledeen sez al Zawahiri's in Iran and bin Laden was in Iran but dead now
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:30 PM
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5. I imagine if bin Laden went into Iran, he'd end up dead pdq.
so it's not a far fetched scenario.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:34 PM
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6. I am still wondering how he can possibly be alive.
wasn't he undergoing dialysis before 9-11. I wonder who the bombs are really killing if anybody.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:43 PM
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7. I read someplace that the dialysis and kidney failure may
have only been a myth. No one knows for sure. There is also the possibility if he did have kidney failure that he got a kidney transplant. A millionaire like him would probably have no problem buying a kidney for himself and a nice hospital to have it done in, especially being so close to places like Pakistan and India.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:46 PM
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9. kind of hard to have such a thing done when your a fugitive
at least unless the very people you are running from are helping you so they have a villain/patsy to blame for anything they want.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:49 PM
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10. I think Musharrah has two faces and if not out and out aiding
the Al Queda, he is at least looking the other way. Osama has a hard core of support in Pakistan so I don't think he would have a problem buying all the care he needs professionally and all the cover he needs from his fanatic followers.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:50 PM
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20. how many medical professionals are there that
are delusional enough to be fundamentalists of any religion much less muslim fundamentalists. I would think that being highly educated they would be more resistant to that kind of insanity.

I also would wonder if he, as a target, would be more of a liability to aq than an asset and make a better asset as a martyr.

if anything he would make a better asset for our own leaders as a figurehead for the enemy.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:04 PM
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21. Hatred of the US doesn't need a lack of education.
Many well educated people around the world hate us for what our American companies and government have done in their countries. I could see them helping OBL out because they have a common enemy. However, what I do believe that BushCo is complicit in this. The Saudis have ordered BushCo to protect him. In my intuition, I am almost positive. I just don't have proof.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:54 PM
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22. yes the elusive proof.
right now you cant even prove he is alive. the videos aren't any proof. there is more than ample evidence that they are most certainly doctored.

just as I cant prove he is dead and is simply being used as bush's Emmanuel Goldstein.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:58 PM
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13. Not really.
He's something of a folk hero in Waziristan; all it would take is for a couple sympathetic doctors to agree to do it and either do it off the record, falsify some records, or make a house call of sorts.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:31 PM
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19. kidney transplant would be a major surgery
kind of hard to do at a housecall no matter what the resources of the patient.

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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:50 PM
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11. Tarpley claims in his Book "9/11 Synthetic Terror....

http://www.amazon.com/9-11-Synthetic-Terror-Fourth/dp/0930852370/ref=sr_1_2/102-5279163-0912958?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190933282&sr=1-2

that OBL was being treated for his kidney disease and was seen in a DuBai hospital in JULY 2001 !!!! And he was then a very "wanted" man for the Cole bombing, etc. wasn't he? I try so hard to keep it all straight....


:grr: :grr:
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:54 PM
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12. Didn't they say he has one leg a while back?
Hard to keep the urban legends straight.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:58 PM
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14. That was Zarqawi, IIRC.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:01 PM
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15. Ah, thanks. I couldn't remember.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:05 PM
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16. They won't catch him....his presence keeps terra alive
and he will be left to keep Benazir Bhutto busy when she returns to head Pakistan's government.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:06 PM
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17. I myself think BushCo on the orders of the Saudis are protecting him. n/t
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tchunter Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:09 PM
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18. I thought the Bin Laden Cave myth was debunked...
i remember reading it on here a few weeks back.
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