I'm proud of Sen. Clinton. She focuses on the failures of the GOP,instead of gunning for her rivals

[journalist3072]

One of the things that I've noticed about Sen. Clinton, whether it's in the debates, or on the Sunday talking heads shows, on the campaign trail, etc....is that she keeps the focus on the failures of the Republicans, instead of attacking her rivals for the nomination.

I think it's absolutely brilliant, and the right thing to do.

Until January of this year, the Republicans have been the ones in control for so long....and it's their failures that the next President will have to clean up.

And I think Sen. Clinton is spot-on in terms on constantly pointing out the failures of the Republicans, instead of attacking her rivals.

[movonne]

1. Really..

[pingzing58]

44. While she votes to take us to war with Iran! nt

[LakeSamish706]

2. I know that I am going to get flamed for this, but.....

The problem that I see with Sen. Clinton is she suffers from one of the same things that GWB suffers from.... Not knowing how to say I was wrong (Her vote for the Iraq war) and not being able to apologize for any mistakes..... Flame away if you must...

[blondeatlast]

5. And, like GWB, can't learn from her mistakes (re: Kyl/Lieberman.)

Sorry, supporters. she and Obama were contenders up until the Kyl/Lieberman amndment. I don't care that it was non-binding.

I cannot possibly vote for her in the primes.

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[LakeSamish706]

8. Sorry, but thats hardly the same as saying I was wrong and for that...

I am sorry.... Use what ever descript language you like, it doesn't change the facts.... She does not know how to say "I was wrong, and for that I am sorry"

[durrrty libby]

16. I can't wait for The Inauguration. It will be a proud day indeed.

:toast: :party: :hippie: :party: :bounce:

[LakeSamish706]

18. I'm guessing that all you know how to do is talk down to people... So, this will be my...

last response to you... Have a good day!

[durrrty libby]

21. Thank fucking god for that

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[Richard Steele]

53. Why's that? President Guliani gonna give you a personal shout-out?

If you actually think the MOST DISLIKED WOMAN IN THE USA
is gonna be taking the oath that day, I feel sorry for you.

Up to a point.

[Richard Steele]

10. And she showed us yesterday that she DIDN'T LEARN ANYTHING from that.

Anyone who is still trusting "evidence" provided by
the White House in 2007 isn't fit to live in it.

[blondeatlast]

23. That should be a thread all it's own. She had a chance with me up until yesterday.

If she gets the nod, I honestly don't know what I will do, I really don't. I can't enable the opposition, but pulling the lever for her--I doubt I can do it.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

55. When she started to talk about the "intelligence" I thought I was in a time machine

back to when she voted for the IWR. Not only that, she grinned the whole time she was talking about it. I felt ice cold.

[BlooInBloo]

14. Yup.

[durrrty libby]

27. Put the blame on boosh where it belongs. Seek truth

[blondeatlast]

32. Should I blame him for her vote on Kyl/Lieberman?

How so?

[durrrty libby]

34. Alert all you want. Happily it won't change the outcome. Toodles

[blondeatlast]

42. Who alerted? Not me. And I'm in it to win it. nt

[zippy890]

3. good for you for pointing out something positive

I have no doubt in my mind that if Sen Clinton is the democratic candidate in the election that she will be the best at dealing with the republican smear machine.

[durrrty libby]

4. Agreed . She will be a fabulous president.

:toast:

[Disturbed]

7. That is a wise way to go on her part.

Would Hillary Clinton bomb Iran?

When asked that question her answer referred to the recent Israeli bombing of Syria & that she supported that bombing because Syria had some nuke project going that came from N. Korea. Did her answer imply that she would bomb Iran if it was confirmed that Iran had a Nuke weapon(s) in progress?

[hisownpetard]

9. Why did Obama miss that vote? nt

[Breeze54]

13. She's an idiot and clueless about the wars!!

She's really going to fuck things up even more!!

You should be scared shitless if she gets the nod.

[durrrty libby]

17. Not at all. Nothing but confidence

[Breeze54]

25. It's a false game face and an act. Don't be fooled.

Her plan is that she doesn't know.

She said so herself while mentioning 2013!!! That should scare the shit out of you!

[durrrty libby]

37. I always have perfect instincts.

[blondeatlast]

41. There you have it. God endorses HC. nt

[Breeze54]

49. For what? Choosing the Red Kool-aid??

You're afraid to admit you are wrong!! I'm telling you right now that You are wrong!!

And your vote for HRC could very well mean the deaths of more millions....

I hope you can live with it, because you'll have to for years to come.

and I won't let you ever forget it

The blood will be on your hands and anyone else that votes for a DLC Warmonger!! :grr:

[Richard Steele]

54. Bwahaha! Oh, you owe me a keyboard after that little gem! I think I peed a little.

nm

[Breeze54]

11. Sen. Clinton should be ashamed of herself and her vote of YES on the Iran Resolution!

Fuck her and the horse she rode in on!! F**king warmonger! :grr:

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[blondeatlast]

26. Apparently the OP is a physician of the Frist school.

Even I supported the IWR--but damn, I learned and learned big from it.I sure as hell don't want a leader that can't.

Nice way to elevvate the debate, eh?

[BlooInBloo]

12. That's a luxury the person in the lead has, not any special virtue of Clinton's.

[Richard Steele]

15. Yeah, it's her humility that prevents her mentioning all her fantastic accomplishments, right?

As if she has a CHOICE in focusing on GOP failures.
What else could she focus on? :eyes:

[Exultant Democracy]

20. Kyl/Lieberman, DLC, nuff said. n/t

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

22. She is mastering "the game". I feel very comfortable with her as President.

She is SO MUCH STRONGER than her husband.

She is a,...catalyst.

[boston bean]

24. lol nt

[blondeatlast]

28. She sucked up to Kyl and Lieberman. That's what I want to see in a progressive leader.

NOT.

Fuck her all to hell--she's lost me no matter how hard she tries now.

[GOPisEvil]

29. Front runners don't have to attack their rivals.

Why give an underdog the free press. Defend your record when attacked and move on.

[lamp_shade]

30. I'm proud of her too.

Very proud indeed. She's so clearly self-confident and well she should be. I admire that confidence, yet there are some who find it somehow unattractive. Go figure.

[blondeatlast]

31. She's lovely. Her enabling of MORE war in the ME is hideous, though. nt

[MadHound]

58. Trouble is, this isn't a personality contest, it is a contest for the highest office in the land

And while I admire strong, self confident women(hell, I married one), I think that her record, especially in regards to the war and impending war is abysmal. She's not only enabled and supported the Iraq war, but not she is rattling the saber at Iran and can't commit to doing the will of the people and get us out of Iraq sooner rather than later.

Sorry, but I have to put the lives of tens of thousands of innocents ahead of personality every day of the week.

[superkia]

33. I thought the democratic debates were between the democrats?

I was under the impression that the candidates are supposed to debate each other so the American public can see the differences between the democratic candidates. When I see her answer a question with Bush bashing, I see a candidate dodging real questions and using a diversion to bush because everyone hates bush and the slower people watching lose focus and follow her lead? Thats not presidential, thats weak and doesn't accomplish anything for a democratic debate. She laughs at things too long and crazy hoping the same slow people will focus on her laughing response instead of focusing on her attempt to dodge the question at hand.

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[superkia]

38. Not sure what you mean by that? But I do support Kucinich as of now.

Here are some of the reasons I do so.

He will end this war for money and use political dialogs to keep us out of war.
He has spoken out about the attacks on the constitution by the government.
He is for non profit health care for all.
He stood up and said the war was about oil and NEVER voted for it from the beginning.
He doesn't spit out the word terror or terrorist in every speech to keep us in fear and to boost up the terrorist industrial complex.
He has spoke out and in favor of impeachment of Dick Cheney.
He wants the patriot act repealed.
He is against NAFTA.
He went on the floor and asked for an investigation into the Hunt oil deal in Iraq.
He answers questions directly, like any PRESIDENTIAL candidate should.


If everyone could enlighten me on what their candidates are doing, maybe I would be voting for their candidate but no one seems to want to discuss it? Help me understand what your candidates stand for and if they are speaking out on any of these important issues.

[durrrty libby]

40. You post in dozens of threads bitchin about Hillary.

Oh please DK is a snake oil seller. He will say anything to get you to love him:loveya:

He is as ridiculous as Gravel

[superkia]

62. I want to know what people see in her, am I missing it?

I want responses from her supporters and other candidates supporters showing me what it is that they are taking a stand on as they make their campaigns. It is scary to me that people only give comments with no response to that, it makes me feel like we are about to elect a candidate that really isn't standing up for us in any way, at a time when the American people need a voice. I cant imagine that she stands for nothing but war and corporations, there has to be something that has her leading the polls and everyone says its not the non stop advertising of her from the media? Again everyone, fill me on on what your candidate stands for so we can make an educated vote instead of a blind one.

Our future depends on this important election, so I hope the right candidate gets the nomination, whoever that is.

With Dennis Kucinich, you can call him whatever childish name you want but he was the ONLY person that had courage enough to stand up and say the Iraq war was about oil, voted against it and never voted to fund it. That was in 2002, so I guess he had evil intentions back then when he pointed out the truth huh? Lets grow up and find out who is the best candidate for our children's future instead of going back in forth providing nothing on our candidates.

Dennis Kucinich, I candidate with the courage and the will to speak out for the people and not sell his soul for financial gain. I think that represents a great start at a new beginning for our country and politics.

[and-justice-for-all]

35. There is an interview in this months THE ADVOCATE

with Hillary, might want to check it out.

I think she would give us at least Civil Unions, if not total marriage equality. It seems you kinda of have to say certain things in certain ways in order to get people vote for them, my Dad thinks she will be our next Pres. he did not seem to not like her or have anything bad to say about her.

If it all comes down to it, I will vote for her. I will not EVER, EVER vote for a rethug, I will vote for a Libertarian or Green before I would vote for those warmongering/Corperate fed goons.

[piesRsquare]

39. I feel uneasy about Hillary

Especially since she came out with her "health plan". I'm going for Edwards in the primes.

What I REALLY want (and have since last year) is a Gore/Edwards team. It might happen!

But if Clinton is the nominee, I'll be hustling votes for her--and I'll vote for her myself.

[Breeze54]

50. You feel uneasy about Hillary? ~~ Trust your instincts!

They are always true!! Trust your instincts!

[HeraldSquare212]

43. It's called a front-runner strategy

and I'm not sure not engaging one's opponents on the issues is to be considered laudable.

[Cha]

45. Right...now the dlclintons

have gotten Kerry outta the way with the Big Stab in Gut.

[Fading Captain]

47. BOOOO!!!! BOOOO!!!

Instead of focusing on failures of the GOP, why doesn't she differentiate herself from the GOP and start acting like a peace-loving, union-supporting democrat.

[KharmaTrain]

48. She's Campaigning Smart

She knows that what she says now is sure to come back later...and why feed the beast...the corporate media...and tear down her own party in the process. Yes, it is triangulation, but it could save her a lot of grief in the general.

For example...many of us are very critical of her for supporting the IWR and not renouncing it. She realizes that there's nothing she can do about that vote now and did so as a majority of the people in her state supported her actions back in 2002. Sorry to say folks, even many Democrats had bloodlust in those post 9/11 days. Edwards can say he regrets his vote now, but he still voted for it. Obama can say he was against the war, but it's easy to say it when you're not under the political pressure those Senators...especially the Democrats...were at that point. By saying her vote is wrong now opens her up to the relentless "flip flop" game that was tossed at Kerry and how "indecisive she is"...she's calculated pissing off the left by not renouncing her vote but innoculates herself from being attacked in the general.

Senator Clinton also knows that she will need to unite the party if she is to win next November...pissing on the other candidates not only hurts that reconciliation but all but plays into the corporate media narrative of how Democrats are unorganized and weak. Being the first serious woman candidate, she has to show she's got "a pair" and any sign of weakness is sure to be pounced on next year.

Earlier this year I was at the Daily Kos debate...and before hand all the candidates milled around the stage and were chatting with one another. Hillary and John Edwards shared a joke, Biden and Obama were engaged in their own discussion...and you could tell these people may have ambitions for the same job, but they all have respect for one another. If I came away with anything from that debate was being proud of all the candidates that day and how I could support them all...even Hillary.

[Breeze54]

51. HRC will NEVER UNITE "the party!"

She isn't even a part of the "party"!

We all know it. To bad some are in denial.

HRC/DLC is a repuke warmonger! She proved it by her IWR for Iran!

What a ****!! And a slow learner to boot, she is that!!

[KharmaTrain]

57. She Isn't A Part Of The Party?

And we know it? Oh we do? I'd like to see a copy of that memo...

Yep...there are some here who are in denial...and the GOOP thanks you. Rudy loves to hear from people like you.

[Richard Steele]

56. The only party she'll ever unite is the REPUBLICAN party.

If she gets the nom, prepare for a wave of new Repub
voter registration like you've NEVER seen, followed by
voter turnout that will break decades-old records.

They won't need Diebold to defeat her. She'll lose it honestly.

[sandnsea]

52. The media does it for her

She doesn't have to.

[Little Star]

59. Yeah I was really proud of her vote to give Bush a second blank check

[Freddie Stubbs]

60. Her campaign is going well enough that she can run on her own merits rather than

tearing down other Democrats.

[Ninga]

61. It is not untypical for the candidate at the top of the polls to use that strategy.

Howard Dean did the exact same thing in the primary season of "03.

In Iowa, the Democrats who supported John Kerry, slammed Dean with TV ad's that morphed Bin Ladens face into the ad against Dean.

So she is not any more noble that any other candidate who is polls at the top.

For sure, Obama is running the same kind of campaign in terms of not attacking rivals.