Why Are People Saying That Kucinich Wants A Massive Gasoline Tax Increase?

[Syrinx]

Just the other night, I heard Dennis Kucinich express total opposition to a three dollar a gallon increase on the gasoline tax. He said that such a thing would be a very regressive tax, and the wrong thing for our country, and for our economy.

He said it would hurt the people that are most vulnerable.

I heard it with my own ears.

Yet people, right here on DU, keep saying he endorsed such a tax increase.

I'm having trouble finding this quote with Google. Or Google News.

But I swear to God, I heard it with my own two ears.

Can anyone with TV confirm that I haven't lost my mind?

I know Kucinich said he was against the gas tax increase. Yet people seem to want to spread the opposite.

And for the record, I've been an Edwards guy. I'm a poor lost soul that thinks Kucinich can't win.

Still, I wonder why people are lying about Dennis like that.

[5X]

1. Operatives. n/t and k and r.

[jmatthan]

2. After the last debate

Every major Liberal Talk Show Host has said that Kucinich is the only real Democratic candidate.
This has caused Randi Rhodes in desperation to push for her favourite, Al Gore, because he kissed her and she cried!

Hilary has taken aboard Wesley Clark who said that the big problem in Iraq is that the Iranians are providing health care, power, water and even educating Iraqis in their universities. That to him is the BIG PROBLEM!

Clark stands for a permanent military presence in the Middle East and is pushing for the Hilary agenda of further war and military victory.

So also is Obama and Edwards.

Hence, Kucinich has to be demonised as he is only one on the same page as the American and world people.

So do not expect any good things to be heard about Kucinich in the main stream media.

This is my personal analysis as a non-American who has no personal interest in your elections!

[LSK]

12. stop lying, Clark has been running http://www.stopiranwar.com/ for the past year

Sheesh..

Stop fucking lying here!

http://www.stopiranwar.com/

[jmatthan]

19. Lying?

Listen to the sound of the Sam Seder on Sunday of last week

http://samsedershow.com/node/1337#comments

and I think you should then apologise publicly to me.

Listen to Clark say - "Decades of involvement".

Does not sound like an "Anti-War" platform!

Already over a million Iraqis dead!

Another few decades of that?

I have received all of Clark's emails.

He has two different takes on the war and his stand is to drum up the war beat against Iran.

And that is NOT a LIE!

Clark is NOT a Military Man any longer - he is just a politician.

[frylock]

3. the establishment is scared shitless by this guy..

they will say and do anything to further marginalize him.

[lazyriver]

6. Yup. Like crop him out of photos, dismiss their own polls

when he wins them, tell us he's too short, distract from his message by talking about his young wife, how unelectable he is, leave his name out of other polls as a choice, tell only half the story about his early experience as mayor of Cleveland and the scam he prevented by refusing to sell their public utilities...it's really sickening. If he manages to draw 10% in the polls, the smearing will get exponentially worse.

The media is owned by the corporate masters and those masters will not permit a candidate to win who threatens to bust up their little racket. They will select two candidates for us, one with a "D" after their name and one with an "R", but they will have one very important thing in common...they will be corporatist. I think it's that simple.

[librechik]

4. They're the same ones who say SCHIP will cover illegal immigrants

they have been fed a load of ethanol from the ol' corn peddler Rush.

[wuushew]

5. What is your solution?

There are only a few options

(A) higher CAFE standards

(B) higher gasoline taxes

(C) rationing

(C) do nothing, let the market decide(and fail)

[Individualist]

7. "I'm a poor lost soul that thinks Kucinich can't win."

Why do you allow propagandists' lies to influence you?

[Whisp]

8. tell a lie often enough and it becomes a halftruth.

bush and rove. etc., have obviously successfully passed on this tidbit to 'the good guys'.

[Rhiannon12866]

9. This isn't exactly what you're looking for, but Dennis chaired a committee

which examined "hot fuel," the discrepancy between what American consumers pay for gas in the summer and in the winter. Drivers get less mileage-per-gallon in the summer because they actually receive less gas during the higher temperatures. They adjust for this in Canada and DK wants to know why we aren't doing that here, since Americans are already paying so much for gas. Dennis's reply starts at 2:21 into the video... :hi:

"Hot Fuel" Hearing: Cummings & Kucinich Exchange
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkftukPu3Fs

His opening speech is here, though it's a lot longer...:-)

"Hot Fuel" Hearing: Kucinich's Opening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trw1_nUIVcM&mode=related&search=

[slipslidingaway]

10. Here are the videos in response to the thread in GD: Politics

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3556419&mesg_id=3557787


Videos, Kucinich said NO to $3.00 gas tax and 6 candidates said
YES to the national ban on smoking in public places.

Gas tax

Start at 2:25 on the below video re the $3.00 gas tax


penguin7 (438 posts) Fri Sep-28-07 12:44 AM
Response to Original message

21. This post is false
Kucinich answered no to the 3$/gas tax question.

I think a gas tax a good idea, but I also think Edwards house is bad for the environment so I am in the minority.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tpG2CshQ7xU


Smoking ban


slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-28-07 03:24 AM
Response to Reply #21
36. THANK YOU & all other candidates said YES to smoking ban
except Clinton and Obama who said they would prefer to have local bans and see the outcome first.

Here's that video, start at 5:25.

Biden, Dodd, Richardson, Kucinich and Gravel all raised their hands in response to the question. When Russert was doing the second summary and moving on to the next question, Edwards wanted to join the other five.

NEW HAMPSHIRE DEMOCRATIC DEBATE SEPT 26, 2007 part 12
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gBwCUw60aZI

[Vidar]

11. It's the best they can do without a "Dean scream" to hobble him with.

[lonestarnot]

13. I heard him say that too! DK AGAINST THE TAX! hmmmf.

[LSK]

14. because their are shameless liars here n/t

[superkia]

15. Someone posted it the other day but they were wrong. I watched...

the debate and his answer was simple...no!

[LWolf]

16. He not only said, "NO" to the gas tax,

he also said something Democrats don't want to hear. Here's a transcript of the question and answer, the bolding mine:

<snip>

Would you be in favor of a phase-in $3.00 a gallon gasoline tax?

KUCINICH: No. And he said something else that didn't receive
much notice. He said that the Iraq war was about oil, something that
I said on "Meet the Press," Tim, on February 23rd, 2003.

I think that we need to make sure that the next president was
right about Iraq, was right about the Patriot Act.

You can have a president like that, who was right about Iraq, who
voted against it from the beginning and against the funding. You can
have a president against -- who was for a single-payer, not-for-profit
health care system, one who will stop the Patriot Act...


RUSSERT: Time.

KUCINICH: ... or you can have a president who's tall.

http://ipol-2008.blogspot.com/2007/09/transcript-of-dartmouth-debate.html

There are many Democrats who don't want a president who's right; they want Washington to be a choreographed theater that will put them in the "VIP" box in the audience, without looking at what goes on behind the curtain.

[never_get_over_it]

17. You heard correctly

Dennis said NO

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tpG2CshQ7xU&mode=related&search=

about three minutes in

[Kelly Rupert]

18. The OP of the original thread already apologized several times,

having stated that he misheard Dennis's answer. I was half-listening to the debate at that point and thought I heard the same, and replied favorably to the OP ; I, too, have both apologized and K-and-R'd threads attempting to correct the untruth.

Anyone else who's repeated that got it from that thread, and didn't see the OP's later correction.