Do me a favor and post here if you're voting for the Dem nominee no matter who it is.

[WilliamPitt]

I'd just like to get a sense of things.

Anyone who wants to insult, question or argue against this idea is welcome to post here also...because you'll be kicking this thread, and therefore will be at least marginally helpful at something.

Thanks.

[TwilightZone]

1. Present and voting for the Dem nominee!

Edit: issue resolved

[katmondoo]

130. Of course

Whom ever it may be cannot be worse, at least I hope not.

[liberaldemocrat7]

410. Oh yes, I will vote for the Democratic candidate whoever he is.

yes

[KitchenWitch]

712. Or she

[zabet]

453. Me too.

Whatever Dem gets the nomination, gets my vote.

[trusty elf]

557. Me three!

When push comes to shove, I'll vote for the Dem.

[argyl]

658. Voting Democrat

Yes, I will definitely vote Democrat, no matter who is the nominee. However, my choice for the Democratic nominee is John Edwards, who, in my opinion has the courage to do the right thing and give straight answers to any question. I think he would be a great president and would have the interests of the American people at heart. Go, Edwards. He definitely won the debate Wednesday night and shows that he has definite plans to get us out of Iraq and other domestic plans at home, as well.

[Deep13]

2. Yet to be determined "D" candidate. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. It's A Genetic Thing

eom

[BlooInBloo]

221. Nah - you're talking about DemocratSinceBeforeBirth.

[Cha]

415. LOL!

Yeah, cause "whomever" is going to be a worthwhile candidate and no matter who it is..we'll all need to battle the corporatemediawhores like David did the Giant CORP.

[yellowdogintexas]

you too? My mom has never forgiven me for being born at election time 1948 ..

because she couldn't vote for Truman!!!!!!

Rest in Peace Mom, I know we would be having a blast talking about this election.!

3rd generation Yellow Dog here.

I was her political ally in the family, LOL

[southerncrone]

714. Surely you exaggerate! Mothers are forgiving people...it's part of the way we love!

[yellowdogintexas]

731. pretty much tongue in cheek, but I have no doubt about her

influence on my social thinking and political thought!

one of my great moments was being able to introduce her to Jim Wright. He hugged her !

[southerncrone]

745. Priceless!

[Generic Brad]

473. It's a generic thing for me

It does not have to be a name brand Democrat. A generic one will do.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

4. Yup. eom

[Ellen Forradalom]

5. Hell yeah. They could nominate a tree stump

and I'd vote for it.

[Raster]

211. Would you stump for the stump?

My Bad!:spank:

[Ellen Forradalom]

231. better work on my stump speech

[Raster]

235. It does seem a tad wooden...

:toast:

[Ellen Forradalom]

314. But not bad for a splinter candidate

[Raster]

318. Perhaps...you may be barking up the wrong tree.

[Ellen Forradalom]

362. In that case I'll leave the party

and join the Greens.

[SlowDownFast]

485. Going against the grain, I see.

Axing affiliation with the dem party.

If you only 'saw' the error of your ways, you'd get to the root of the problem...


;-)

[calimary]

545. You guys are going WAY out on a limb there...

:D

Yes, I'm one of those voting Dem no matter what. Unfortunately, the alternative is so undesirable as to be completely unthinkable.

[SlowDownFast]

546. Unfortunately,

some folk just can't see the forest for the trees.

I'd like to think that I'm 'knot' one of them...

[calimary]

555. Wood you cut that out??!??!

:D

[L0oniX]

686. I'll root for Hillary

[calimary]

730. Leaf me alone about it!

:rofl:

[Ellen Forradalom]

732. I'm a sap

for any of our fine candidates.

[Jackpine Radical]

637. Gonna just bud out and leave, huh?

[Blue Fire]

703. Gonna branch out a bit, eh?

[Jim Sagle]

494. I'm stumped.

[JuniperLea]

278. Stumps are far more intelligent than Chimps...

We'd do well with a Stump:)

[stlsaxman]

601. "Tree Stump Democrat" LOL

:rofl:

[stlsaxman]

634. Tree Stump Dem graphic

:rofl: -"My how you all inspire me!"

Thanks Ellen Forradalom

[Ellen Forradalom]

665. I would deciduously vote for that candidate.

[Bryn]

695. I noticed on CNN last night

at how so intelligent and posed and thoughtful and professional Sheriff Tony DeMeo was when he came on to speak to the press about a little girl that was in child rape tape found safe. Bush is an embarrassment and speaks like an idiot. Our United State President!
x(

[BrklynLib at work]

6. Of course I am voting for the Dem..If one does not vote, one cannot complain

:hi:

[PVnRT]

7. Yep (n/t)

[Blue_Roses]

8. Here.

:hi:

[Lasher]

9. I will vote for the Democratic nominee whoever he or she is.

I wouldn't even vote for myself if I were to run as a Republican.

[johnnie]

10. I will

No doubt about that. I don't see any alternative.

[SecularMotion]

11. My first priority is a Democratic Administration

I will gladly vote for the Democratic Nominee.

[cali]

12. I will be.

Any of the dems is world's better than any of the pukes. SCOTUS, the enviroment, social issues, repairing our relations with the rest of the world, etc.

[RethugAssKicker]

13. of course.... we only have a 2 party system... so its either dem or

rethug !...

However, I wish we had a different system that could make a third party candidate viable...then I wouldn't have to vote DEM all the time.

[Beausoir]

14. Here.

[Emit]

15. I will. n/t

[riqster]

16. Damn Skippy!

It's a binary solution set, R or D.

[Old and In the Way]

17. Sure....I'm not married to any of the candidates in the primaries, but

whoever it is, I'll be voting for him/her in 2008.

[book_worm]

18. For Dennis in primary--for whoever is eventual nominee

hope it's Dennis. Too much is at stake to 1)not vote 2) vote third party and 3) by doing so allow one of those Republican candidates in the WH.

Don't like Hillary--I hear ya, but I can depend on her to appoint better judges than any of the GOP candidates and protect Roe v. Wade. She will also do more for domestic concerns like health care or education than any Republican. Will she do enough? probably not, but it will be better than nothing or making it worse.

[Mira]

523. well describes how I feel - I would really not want to vote for Mrs Clinton

but I'm planning to lay in some sedatives just in case she is the nominee

[davidinalameda]

549. booze works better

[porphyrian]

19. I just can't commit to that right now. I'll burn that bridge when I get to it, I suppose.

But first, I'd like to vote in the primary and have my vote count.

[David Zephyr]

20. Without any reservations whatsoever.

Whoever the Democrats nominate in 2008 has my complete support (and by that I mean any of our current crop of candidates with the inclusion of John Kerry and Al Gore, too).

[hedgehog]

21. Yep

[Avalux]

22. ABBSOLUTELY. No matter who it is.

The future of our nation depends on it. :kick:

[LeFleur1]

34. Yes

The Choice is:
1.Candidates with average to above intelligence and concern for the welfare of all citizens. (Democrats)
2.Candidates with .... some sort of twisted thinking, concern for money, the party, and for selves. (Republicans)

[shrdlu]

23. Ya...You betcha!

[Jim__]

24. There's no other choice - n/t

[TankLV]

25. Unless something absolutely unforseen happens, I will vote as usual...

Always have, always will, since 1972...

Can't make any promises due to unforseen circumstances, but I have never yet missed a vote, and I have NEVER voted repuke...

Been a registered Democrat from the day I was 18...

but I am not 100% satisfied with the way things are going, and to say I am disappointed would be a vast understatement...

I love my family deeply, without reservation, but I don't always agree with them, and we argue heatedly many times...

[yellerpup]

26. I'm voting Democratic no matter who the nominee.

I'll vote Democratic no matter what the weather, the political climate, the voting booth glitches, or whatever. I'll vote Democratic even if my arms get chopped off in the meantime. The rest of the world wants to love us again and voting Democratic is the only way to give them hope. I will always vote Democtatic. Now, whether or not my vote gets counted correctly--that's a different question.

[Bake]

27. Absolutely, positively and with no hesitation.

And I live in a freakin' RED state.

Bake

[Clintonista2]

28. Of course!

If anybody is not voting for the nominee, than they should NOT be posting here.

[Roxy66]

47. Agreed!!

[Mountainman]

29. I will vote for the Dem who ever it is.

[Raffi Ella]

30. .

Living in a Two Party system and knowing what I know there is no other choice for me than to vote for ANY Demcorat that gets the nom.

This election is make or break for Democracy.What is so hard to understand about that?

[murielm99]

31. Of course I'm voting for the nominee.

I'm not throwing my vote away, or giving the repukes four more years.

[BridgeTheGap]

32. Yes... enough of the g.o.p. already!

Get 'em out of there.

[lligrd]

33. I'm Still In But It May Not Be The Pleasant Experience

I was hoping for.

[Tesla]

36. Run Al Run!!

Yeah I will even if he doesn't run....


It would almost kill me to vote for Lieberman though...

[lligrd]

61. Al Would Improve My Experience Tremendously

And Lieberman is not a Dem. I will never ever vote for him for anthing again.

[Ikonoklast]

35. The aged members of SCOTUS demand that I vote

for a Yellow Dog before I ever vote for R.-Anything.

President Gore sounds awful nice to me. With Vice-President any of the current campaigners, you pick.

[DinahMoeHum]

37. The worst Democrat among the POTUS candidates is a THOUSAND TIMES better

than the best Republikkan.

:kick::kick:

[yellowdogintexas]

628. what she said, which is what I said a month ago. and I know we are not the only ones nt.

[MH1]

38. I'll pull the straight "D" lever

Even if I have to ingest something very strong to ignore who I am supposedly voting "for".

Another tactic I've thought of is to have "SUPREME COURT" tatooed on the back of my hand.

[bryant69]

39. I will vote for the Dem no matter who it is

Unless it's Dick Cheney of course.

I do understand why other people might feel differently.

Bryant
CHeck it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Roxy66]

40. Absolutely!!! Anyone other than an crazy Repug

[truebrit71]

41. Yup. The level of monetary support etc will depend upon whom the nominee is though...

...kind of hard to be enthusiastic, open your wallet AND hold your nose at the same time... ;-)

[W_HAMILTON]

42. Me.

I'll vote for whoever our presidential nominee is.

[Virginia Dare]

43. Most definitely...n/t

[H2O Man]

I am.

I am assuming it will be one of the announced candidates, or possibly Al Gore. I will invest time and money in any of their campaigns -- some much more than others.

[Time for change]

44. I am

Assuming it's one of the 8 declared candidates or any of the undeclared candidates who are currently considered possibilities.

[MissB]

45. Of course. With another potential supreme court appointment

in the next four years, the answer is hell yes. A Democratic President appointing a justice may not tip the balance back towards the progressive side but at least it doesn't destroy all fucking hope.

So yes. Period.

[RangerRK]

46. What kind of progressive writer/leader starts a thread like this?

I question your intentions.

[WilliamPitt]

51. Thanks for the kick.

I don't give a single shit what you question.

Really, not one.

[Roxy66]

88. LOL!

[ronnie624]

176. Do you appreciate this 'kick'?

When I first discovered this website, your posts were among those to which I gravitated. I found your commentary reasonably informed and marginally entertaining. I was rather excited when I happened across a speech by you on C-Span.

Then, a few years ago, I witnessed a heated argument, between you and another DUer, in which you passionately argued for the continued occupation of Iraq. It was at that point, that I lost all interest in anything you had to say.

Further, recently, you felt a need to launch a gratuitous and condescending attack against me, for reasons I have yet to understand. And now, I come across a post such as this one.

I will not mention another incident or two, for which you surely, still feel a certain amount of embarrassment.

Perhaps you should work on your social skills.

Incidentally, I will vote for any Democratic nominee, but only because I am forced to, by our two-party system.

[txaslftist]

193. Then you needn't give a shit how I'll vote, Will.

[Bryan Sacks]

724. "If I retreat, kill me" n/t

At least most people who retreat have actually advanced first, Will.

[kmla]

154. Ummmm.... A well-respected, thoughtful, intelligent one?

Wait. Was this a rhetorical question?

[Warren DeMontague]

210. I question your intentions in questioning his intentions.

Not only that, I'm outraged about the outrage.

[LSK]

213. LOL - thats funny!

He only tried to prevent the Iraq war:

http://www.amazon.com/War-Iraq-What-Team-Doesnt/dp/1893956385/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/103-8358232-2895026?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1191001874&sr=1-3

But I guess reputations mean nothing to some.

[Ellipsis]

325. ...must resist urge to post smart ass remark

Can't do it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4852140627718118998&q=Flesh+gordan&total=32&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8

[Ellipsis]

328. delete

[slick8790]

700. A progressive who knows that we have 2 choices this election,

and one choice is far less progressive than the other? Sorry, the worst dem we have is no where near the best repub.

[blm]

48. Will vote for Dem cabinet just in case a progressive makes it to that table.

That is all.

[Hekate]

49. SCOTUS, SCOTUS, SCOTUS, SCOTUS. What was the question?

[question everything]

112. Right! There is no alternative (nt)

[Reciprocity]

144. Okay I'm an idiot what is this SCOTUS I keep seeing here?

[DURHAM D]

156. The Supremes. n/t

[Emit]

195. For reference to this argument, see "It's The SCOTUS, Stupid!" - previous DU thread here

"Note to liberal Hillary-bashers: It's The SCOTUS, Stupid!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1921549

[Hekate]

276. Supreme Court of the United States. You're not an idiot, it's just hard to keep up all the time. nt

[Reciprocity]

294. Thank you!

[leftynyc]

269. LOL - my sentiments exactly (eom)

[Zero Division]

301. My thoughts exactly. Must vote (D) for the SCOTUS.

[Lochloosa]

478. I SCREAMED this in '04....

[KitchenWitch]

718. It truly is all about the SCOTUS!

POTUS determines SCOTUS.

[demnan]

Undetermined

I'm waiting to see how they act when/if we go to war with Iran. Till then, Dennis is my guy.

A little story for you since all politics is local:

I live in Prince William County Virginia, famous for its draconian Immigration Law. This past summer the two Democrats on the Board of Supervisors from the Hispanic majority areas voted with the Republicans and against the immigrants.

Three months later the subdivisions where one of the Democrats is are full of yard signs for "Ramerez, Independent for Supervisor".

Moral of this story: People will only put up with so damn much before they pull away from a useless Party and start working in their own self-interest.

That's all I have to say. I don't engage in candidate bashing.

Signed,

The Nancy who puts impeachment on the table

[CreekDog]

368. Who will Dennis vote for? (win or lose)

Will you do the same?

[Katherine Brengle]

50. *raises hand*

[mikelgb]

52. I will have a very difficult time voting for a candidate who has been shoved down my throat

by the Media
by the Republicans
and sadly by DU as well

I can not commit to be a starry-eyed, party-over-country Dem ditto-head... I wouldn't think that any decent human being would.

---

So if Dick Cheney switched his party affiliation and used his voting machines to steal the Dem primary... you would vote for him out of party loyalty? out of principle?

---

That being said I don't think any of the Current Dem candidates is really as bad as the dark one, but come on? Do you want us all to sign loyalty oaths Will? This is an exercise in foolishness. As DUers, as Democrats, as Americans I feel we should encourage debate and open thoughts on this forum.

I want to know if people are so vehemently against Hillary that they won't vote for her if she is the nominee... that is good info to have. I don't fault people for that opinion, but I wonder why the have it. I certainly don't want them to feel they don't belong in the discussion.

[hedgetrimmer]

535. Ram it, shove it, bake it, take it, vote it, eat it ... the party line.

The dogmatic assertiveness of this thread in ideology is what brought the republican party it's fundamentalist stronghold and the dark lord bush to power. Without question, without debate and without the people there is no democratic party, there is only the block of yes sirs voting for the democratic poster politician.

When the dark lord leaves the oval office I do not want to worry about the democratic replacement and there connections to the dark lords death-eaters. I want a light, a bright powerful light that dispels the darkness and secrecy that has loomed over this country and rains in a movement of life.

But I digress, we all know from previous elections the fix is in. Does it matter if you are or are not voting DEM DEM DEM, history tells me no. And with that no, I say no to Hillary, just like I say no to Warren R. Ashe.

The truth is that most of the candidates are not good enough to pass Will Pitts' toilet paper to him, yet here we are with our "front runners" and like it or not you are going to vote for one of them.

The powers that rule are not going to go out with Bush, they are already planning their descendant who will win. Everybody knows the fix is in, everybody knows the fight is fixed, everybody knows the poor get poorer and the rich get richer, everybody knows.

[stranger81]

593. Amen. [n/t]

[Ryano42]

53. Have to...

Simply no alternative...and if I don't agree with them...I will keep informed of it AFTER they are elected! :)

[Gemini Cat]

54. Yep

I'm allergic to voting republic.
They make it hard to breath and occasionally try to kill me.

[The Wielding Truth]

339. Isn't that how we all feel?

:rofl:

[Ohio Joe]

55. I will, as usual, vote Dem all the way! (nt)

[Kelly Rupert]

56. Certainly, sir. n/t

[enigmatic]

57. me

2008 will be my last election to vote in before I become a Canadian citizen; it'll be my last vote ever in an election held in the US. I want to see a Democrat in the WH w/ a Democratic majority in Congress, and I'm going to help w/ Democrats Abroad here in Canada to make this happen:

http://www.democratsabroad.org/

[JeffR]

58. I may not enjoy it, depending, but I sure as hell will vote D

[MANative]

59. Yes, even if it means holding my nose while I do it.

Won't make a huge difference here in CT, as we typically go blue, but on principle, won't ever make the mistake of getting suckered in by another republican. Did that just once, voted for John Rowland, and look what we got with him. Never again.

[Bitwit1234]

60. As long as they are the democrat candidate....

[WilliamPitt]

104. Democrat-IC

:)

[auburngrad82]

287. Thank you Will

That particular term never fails to piss me off.

[Synnical]

Yes. n/t

[LeftCoast]

62. I'm a Democrat. I support the Democratic candidate.

I'm also a realist in that I know the worst Democrat will still represent my interests better than the least objectionable republican.

[supernova]

63. I will be pulling the D lever

I might be kicking and screaming while doing so (or maybe the process will surprise me) but I certainly will vote for the Dem candidate, whoever that will be.

[Ignis]

64. Sure, what's another DINO when we have DiFi here in CA? (nt)

[minkyboodle]

65. here

I may have to hold my nose but I will do it no matter who gets
the nomination

[librechik]

66. NGU

sigh



the donkey doesn't have the strength to kick today!

[The Backlash Cometh]

67. Me.

(But don't tell Hillary!)

[xiamiam]

68. against my better judgement in some cases...but yes...nt

[Evoman]

69. I will NEVER vote for a dem.

It's because I'm Canadian! Ha!

[Richard Steele]

117. Why, you doity....

Ya totally got me! :rofl:

[auburngrad82]

288. Well, here's what I have to say to that...

Trailer Park Boys ROCK!

[LSK]

70. of course

[Blue State Blues]

71. yellow dog dem, here

As in, "I will vote for the Dem nominee even if they decide to run a yellow dog"

[Lone_Star_Dem]

72. Of course

I may not like our current two party system, but that's the way it is at the moment.

We've too much to lose by letting another Republican become president. Period.

I honestly think this is how most people here feel, but they're getting sick and tired of being told that they have no choice in who will win the nomination, that it's a done deal and in the bag already.

It's NOT decided yet. Yet that meme is beginning to take a toll on people.

[Zandor]

73. I'd support any of the nine candidates n/t

[cordelia]

74. Absolutely

[Debi]

110. Welcom to DU cordelia!

:hi:

[Mz Pip]

75. Absolutely

unless it's Lieberman...

Mz Pip
:dem:

[question everything]

125. You can be sure that if Lieberman switches back

to become a Democrat - though highly unlikely he is the nominee - he will not appoint a Scalia or a Thomas to the Supreme Court, to help Bush achieve his "legacy."

[Mz Pip]

237. I was being

sarcastic. Should have included :sarcasm: Yeah, I'd even for for old Joe if he were the Democratic nominee.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[derby378]

425. You're kidding me, right?

LIEberman has gone over to the dark side. He's a Republican in all but name.

There's a reason why Democratic Underground exists - apparently, we are once again going to be the underground resistance movement of the overall party.

[Mz Pip]

519. It's all hypothetical anyway.

Good grief. Joe Lieberman v. Tom Tancredo. You'd vote for Tom? You'd really stay home? :rofl:

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Pirate Smile]

76. Me. I will.

[hiphopnation]

77. present

:holding nose:

unless it's Al, John or Barak, in that order


edit to add: it'll be nice to have the trashers of the party chime up in this thread, i'm feelin' scrappy today.

jgraz? you here?

[racaulk]

78. I will, no matter who it is.

:hi:

[eridani]

79. Yellow dog now in general elections

I've been hearing this crap about screw the Dems, let's organize in the streets, let's let things get bad enough so people revolt since at least 1972. Hey, how's that been working out for us? :sarcasm:

[hack89]

80. I will. nt

[The Magistrate]

81. Of Course, Mr. Pitt

My vote will be cast against the worst elements of reaction in our polity, grouped under the banner of the Republican Party. The first and greatest need is to balk the enemy; no further improvement can be gotten or even hoped for until they are beaten back from control of the Executive, and no effective means for this work exists but the Democratic Party.

"There will be a holiday in our street soon!"

[TwilightZone]

93. Agreed.

We can't strive for a more progressive agenda if we don't get Democrats elected in the first place.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

82. i will.

[momto3]

83. Absolutely. n/t

[bigtree]

84. of course

surprise, huh?

[spanone]

85. yes, SCOTUS

[arbusto_baboso]

86. What other viable, sensible alternative is there?

[Scriptor Ignotus]

87. yes and gladly -eom

[Justitia]

89. No brainer, of course! -eom

[Mrs. Overall]

90. Yes, most definitely.

[NMDemDist2]

91. !

present and accounted for, sir!

:patriot:

[zippy890]

92. I will.

there's too much at stake

[smiley_glad_hands]

94. Dem all the way.

It will be a cold day in hell before I vote repub. Staying home is vote for a repub too.

[Debi]

95. Of course I will vote for the Dem nominee - no matter who it is

The Congress (and who gets elected) is important to me, the Supreme Court (and who gets appointed) is important to me, the President's cabinet is important to me.

Even if I'm not a rah-rah cheerleader for the nominee, I will vote for the Democratic nominee.

[blondeatlast]

96. Yellow dog all the way--in the past. Seriously considering an alternative if the K/L ayes or no-show

win.

[LanternWaste]

97. I will...

Obama, Sen. Clinton, or even FDR's ghost if he/she/it/we/they/them/us is/are the Democratic nominee.

<In my best film-noir gangster voice>'Cause I'm a Democrat, see? And ain't no stoolies or G-men gonna take me down.

Sorry... I got nothing, Will. But I'm voting for the Democratic nomination regardless.

[smiley_glad_hands]

98. This is a rhetorical question right? eom

[question everything]

99. It is about the Supreme Court!

There will be at least one, perhaps three vacancies in the next few years, all of liberals (unless one of the conservatives succumb to sudden stroke or heart attack..)

It is not about Iraq, it is not about civil liberties, it is not even about health care. All these will become irrelevant if the Supreme Court is full of "Scalias and Thomases."

And wouldn't it be ironic if the left, the "purists" who would not vote for X, will be the ones to help Bush achieve his "legacy?"

And for those "purists" who "refuse to compromise," I hope that they are young enough so will have plenty of time to live in solitude, either in jail - if they continue to express their opinions - or on the run, or just in quiet desperation.

P.S. you probably should have posted this in a poll format..

[Marrah_G]

100. Of course

[robinlynne]

101. yes, but I will be very sad if it is hillary. any of the others would be better.

[quispquake]

102. I will DEFINITELY be voting for all DEMS...

Even if it's a lesser of two evils...the greater evil this time is REALLY evil...

[tandot]

103. Count me and my husband in.

No matter what, we'll vote for the Democratic nominee.

Besides the war, there are other important issues at stake. Any Democrat will be better on the environment, choice, supreme court nominations, health care, social security, domestic spying.

[Cameron27]

105. I will, absolutely,

even if it turns out to be the one I don't like.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

113. I will positively be voting for the Democratic candidate. Period.

No matter what. We don't have the "luxury" to stand on principle at this time and take the chance another "moranic" repug slides into the White House and put this country through another four years of hell. Our very worst candidate is ten times better than anyone they can offer up. May hold my nose, may gag a bit but I'll pull the "D" lever NO MATTER WHAT.

[blueraven95]

106. yep

and you can count 4 voting people in my household.

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

107. I will vote for the Dem nominee no matter what

I cannot in good conscience do anything else.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

108. I am against the war in Iraq.

And a potential war in Iran.

So I really don't see how in good conscience I could vote for Clinton.

[Raffi Ella]

115. .

Because while that is an extraordinarily important issue it isn't the only issue at stake here.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

124. It's important enough.

If I can't trust Clinton to be against the war in Iraq, I wouldn't trust her with anything else, let alone the Presidency.

[Reciprocity]

181. Well if the polls are true looks like you will be trusting a republican then.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

185. No.

I don't trust republicans, that's why I'm not planning on voting Clinton.

Back in 2004, Lieberman was ahead in the polls for the Dem nominee. I wouldn't have voted for him either.

Would you?

[Reciprocity]

222. Yes I would have held my nose and voted for him, just like I might for Hillary.

In my opinion if you are a democrat, any time you choose to not vote, it's a vote for a republican.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

300. Then you'd have voted for somebody who isn't a democrat.

Would you vote for George Wallace? How about Strom Thurmond?

[Reciprocity]

310. If he has a D after his name then yes I'll vote for him.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

312. Yikes.

That's sad.

[Reciprocity]

326. No that's the reality of what we are dealing with.

As an adult I've had to do loads of shit I didn't want to. You just push on and hope for better times.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

329. You're an adult?

Here I was hoping that you were too young to know who Wallace and Thurmond were.

[Reciprocity]

337. Just turned 49.

[CreekDog]

385. Born: you peddle childish arguments

And you have the nerve to ask if others are adults?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

394. Yeah.

If somebody says they'd vote for Thurmond or Wallace if they were the nominee (regardless of whether or not they were historically the presidential nominee) I have the nerve to ask whether or not they're old enough to realize that they just stuck their foot in their mouth.

[CreekDog]

399. But it's ridiculous

Because we make assumptions and Wallace (except Henry) and Thurmond could never have gotten the Democratic nomination for President and nobody like that could get it today especially with a process so dependent upon primaries.

Your argument is ridiculous because it is pointless. Yes, if the Dems nominated David Duke, you could play gotcha, but the Dems are not going to do that. Any argument that tries to get folks here who will support the party "no matter what" to admit that means supporting a David Duke is ridiculous and not helpful.

You know what they mean, it's obvious what they mean and you're just being thick.

[Reciprocity]

431. I'd rather have a foot in my mouth than my head up my butt.

[SlowDownFast]

507. LOL

Touche!

:rofl:

[okasha]

642. Neither George Wallace nor Strom Thurmond

was ever nominated for President by the Democratic Party. They headed third-party tickets because the Democrats wouldn't nominate them..

[CreekDog]

384. Wallace wasn't the Dem nominee, ever

Thurmond ran as a Dixiecrat in 1948.

And there is nothing comparable to those people up for nomination right now, not by a longshot.

[SlowDownFast]

503. No. That's not sad.

What's sad is people who stay home and pout instead of vote - or throw away their vote to a candidate who has no chance in hell of winning - because their particular candidate didn't get the nomination.

FYI: I will not be voting for HRC in the primaries.

Peace.

[CreekDog]

381. Lieberman was a Democrat in 2000

People who voted for Lieberman in 2000 voted for a Democrat.

It's only if they voted for him since he left the party that they voted other than Democrat.

Don't play games with people and say that because he left the party 6 years later that they voted for something else in 2000. You should be taken to task for characterizing other people's votes that way.

[Reciprocity]

756. Thanks for your input.

Like I said with a D after his name, and not when he has an I.

[MGKrebs]

604. How about you? If the only choices were George Wallace and Adolf Hitler,

who would you pick?

[reggie the dog]

575. If

and only if the anti war, anti patriot act Ron Paul is nominated by the Republicans against the seeming pro Iran war, pro patriot act, pro Iraq war Clinton I may well likey vote Republican for president as Democrat for the house, senate, and Democrat for state house and senate as well as local offices.

[CreekDog]

379. Bornagin: she is a Democrat

She is not a Republican.

By your standard, I would not call you a Democrat either. Your standard being that other people can decide what party you are in --which is what you've done to Hillary.

[CreekDog]

377. This was an issue of Presidential power for Hillary

Not just voting for a war in Iraq.

That's what you don't understand about her vote. Hillary believes that the executive needs power to make these decisions and she voted likewise. That does not make her in favor of the invasion.

There is a difference here.

[TwilightZone]

135. Alternatively, we could allow someone like McCain, who is actively pursuing war in Iran,

to win.

All of our candidates want to get us out of Iraq, preferably sooner rather than later. All of the Republicans except Paul want to stay there indefinitely and make it another Korea.

That would seem to be the choice.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

137. Or, we could nominate a real candidate.

[TwilightZone]

153. That's not the issue of this thread.

My response was regarding the choice that we would face in the general election, as inferred by the OP.

That choice in its most basic form is: hope of getting out of Iraq in the next few years and avoiding war with Iran, or zero hope of getting out of Iraq, staying for perhaps a generation, and an undeniably higher chance of war with Iran.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

158. Pff.

The "issue" of this thread is just another flamy loyalty oath, retreading the same ground we've been over and over again.

[TwilightZone]

166. Some of us are Democrats who believe that any of our nominees is better...

than the best of the Republicans. Further, at this moment in our country's political life, I believe that the only viable alternative to Republican rule is to get Democrats to replace them. That being the case, I'll vote for whomever wins. I think they're all better than Rudy or Mittens or Fred.

Frankly, I don't see how anyone can believe otherwise, but that doesn't mean that I don't think you're entitled to do so. We can just agree to disagree.

Edit: clarification

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

169. Some of us Democrats are in deep denial.

[TwilightZone]

173. I agree with that assessment, though I suspect for very different reasons.

[CreekDog]

386. only bornagin gets to decide who is a "real" candidate

What the plurality of Democratic Primary voters have to say is irrelevant.

[SlowDownFast]

512. That's the idea!

Wow.

You're catching on.

It is a distinct possibility that HRC will not get the nom, despite the MSM trying to force feed her to us.

The best way to avoid her winning the primes is to watch who has the next best numbers and vote accordingly (by most accounts, Edwards won the last debate).

I'm still hoping against hope that Gore gets in.

Whatever happens, I'm pulling the lever marked "D" in Nov '08...

[question everything]

141. And do you think that if a Republican wins

the war will be over?

While the war is important, it will be irrelevant, together with basic rights, if the Supreme Court becomes full of "Scalias and Thomases." Do you really want to help Bush achieve this "legacy?"

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

145. No.

Do you think if Clinton wins the war will be over?

[auburngrad82]

290. Which candidate will end the war within your time frame?

And by the way, what is your timeframe?

[txaslftist]

352. Kucinich, Paul, Gravel

and the timeframe is RIGHT AWAY.

[CreekDog]

387. Yes it will end and another one won't begin

damn right I believe it and I know it's far more likely than if the other party wins.

[blondeatlast]

159. The last thing I want to do is enable another Republican win, but right now,

that's my position too.

The sad thing is that we are being asked to so quickly brush the K/L vote (which supposedly means nothing, but with W in charge certainly does mean something). I can't, I won't, and I'll argue my yellow-dog heart to death why I should.

[renie408]

214. Read up on what the Supreme Court is doing these days

and we are going to lose three more justices within the next few years. Do you want to have Rudy Giuliani or Fred Thompson putting the next three justices on the Supreme Court? As it is, we have the most conservative Supreme Court that we have had in decades. If the GOP gets the next three nominees, we will be back to pre-1950 thinking in law. The long term effects of THAT on this country will make the Iraq war look like nothing.

[blondeatlast]

229. Believe me, I have--and I want to see a candidate come out publiclky for packing

the Supreme Court, which will be a very unpopular move and nearly guaranteed to lose them a re-election stint.

People can't possibly understand how hard this is for me but I simply can't fathom another invasion--and with Iran, it hits very close to home.

[renie408]

232. I understand. I think each of us is prompted by the things closest to our hearts.

Everybody is just doing the best they can. If the thing that you see 'most' isn't the same as the thing I see 'most', well that just how it is.

(I am still going to hope that you change your mind if it comes down to it!!)

[blondeatlast]

238. I'm quite certain I will vote Dem--I have hundreds of long-gone Kansas yellow dogs

who will haunt me for life if I don't!

But I really got socked in the gut by most of the party on the K/L vote If anyone but W was in the WH, I could have seen past it easier, but it's such a dangerous precedent. :scared:

[renie408]

254. Did you mean 'dangerous PRESIDENT' or 'dangerous PRECEDENT'??? j/k n/t

[blondeatlast]

256. Yes.

:hi:

Thank you for being civil. this hasn't been a good week for this Dem believer.

[BlooInBloo]

Then it's not the *last* thing you want to do.

[renie408]

209. I respect that position...but I am against having any more conservatives

on the Supreme Court than there already are. The Robert's SCOTUS has already begun trying to turn the clock back to the early 1900's. One of the things they are expected to do in the next session is to decide that ANY gun control is unconstitutional. ANY. They have turned back the clock on abortion rights and will go further.

The Iraq war is right here, right now. Supreme Court nominees last DECADES and their decisions last longer than that.

[CreekDog]

376. Given the same authority HRC would not have invaded Iraq

That's a key difference between her and GWB.

And despite her voting to support his authority, the difference between how they would use the authority is far from trivial.

[bluethruandthru]

109. Absolutely.

[Beetwasher]

111. I Suspect The VAST Majority Of DU'ers Are In This Camp

Myself included. Those that aren't are a small minority that fit into a few categories and the lack of their votes will be insignificant anyway. They are: narrow minded, shortsighted idealists, deluded fools or, of course, trolls & troublemakers.

In addition, I happen to feel that every single one of our candidates happens to be terrific and we're lucky to have them and everyone of them is light years better than any Repub.

[TwilightZone]

126. That small minority also happens to be rather vocal.

That being the case, I think it tends to look larger than it really is.

[Beetwasher]

134. Yup

They are vocal and prolific in their negative posting, thus inflating the perception of their size.

[question everything]

157. We have to remmeber 1968

when many anti-war Democrats did not trust Humphrey and stayed home, bringing us Nixon.

And we have to remember 2000 when Nader got more votes in Florida and, I think, in Iowa, then the difference between the D and the R to cost us these two states.

Every vote counts.

[LeftCoast]

271. I remember 2000 when people said there was no difference between Gore and Bush

Amazing that here we are eight years later, after the most disastrous presidency in our history and people are still arguing the same basic thing.

[lyonn]

373. Ouch! I was one of those and voted Nixon

Oh how Nixon lied. Hope to never make that mistake again. Humphrey did seem weak, hey, I was young.

Edit: Must admit I voted for Johnson which could be the reason Humphrey didn't get my vote.

[Richard Steele]

114. I'll probably do it. Unlikely that I won't, but a lot of things can happen in 14 months.

[emilyg]

116. I am.

[Patsy Stone]

118. Moi

I am.

[parasim]

119. Reluctantly, yes.

But it would be more accurate to say instead of voting for a Democrat, I'd be voting against a Republican. Of course, unless the nominee is somebody such as Kucinich, then in that case, I would definitely would be voting for a Democrat. (haven't made my mind up on the other Dems at this point)

[BlooInBloo]

120. Hell fucking yah. Even Moonbeam McCrazypants.

[Justitia]

216. LOL! I want to go to that fundraiser! -eom

[BlooInBloo]

220. I would have a good time there. Until they kicked me out, of course.

[Reciprocity]

121. That's me.

Like my sig says......
I'll Hug Your Elephant, If You Kiss My Ass!

[starchimes]

122. I will

[HERVEPA]

123. Coitanly. (see message for slight amusement)

[IronLionZion]

127. Our worst Dem is better than their best Repube

Hillary vs. Ron Paul would be difficult, but I would still vote for Hillary. A Dem would appoint sensible judges and pursue sensible strategies on domestic economic and social issues. American politicans of both parties (other than maybe Ron Paul) are bad on foreign policy. Sometimes I wish we could just leave other countries alone or maybe just trade with them instead of invading/sanctions/etc./... I want to trade with Cuba.

[CreekDog]

391. Want to trade with Myanmar?

Sudan?

Think what we did in Yugoslavia was wrong and not helpful?

Despite our imperfections, we are supposed to be trying to make the world a better place and many times, not always, we were the difference between wrongs going unchecked and ending.

[IronLionZion]

755. You betcha

Myanmar is very isolated except maybe for teak and opium. Trade would be beneficial for the people of Myanmar. It would be good for them to have some exposure to the outside world and get some investment in their country.

Sure we did some good things and saved some people. How do you feel about our involvement in Iraq? Iran? Afghanistan? Vietnam? Our past mistakes came back to bite us in the ass. I think it's wonderful that the people of Myanmar are standing up to their oppressive government. I don't think too highly about US forces "liberating" them or our CIA interfering in their elections...and why would we? They don't have much oil.

[RoyGBiv]

128. Of course n/t

[PoiBoy]

129. I'll be voting for the nominee...

whomever that is...


:hi:

[Turn CO Blue]

131. I'm voting for the Dem, because it's the Cabinet heads that matter

and the Court nominees. The real work of government happens in the departments and the protection of the Constitution happens in the Courts!

For example, look at what FEMA actually did and what they should/could have done during Katrina! Think of how critical all these are: the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of State, Attorney General, the Department of Justice, the Department of the Interior, the EPA, the Department of Health, Department of Labor, the CDC, Department of Education, etc....

I have no doubt that EVERY single one of our current Dem candidates would pick far and away better, more qualified Secretaries, Cabinet heads, appointees, ambassadors, justices, and staff than the Repub candidates would pick.



Disclaimer: I'm still waiting for Gor'ot

[riqster]

273. ..."waiting for Gor'ot"

:applause: :rofl:

Brilliant!

[Turn CO Blue]

435. ~blushing~

[Dervill Crow]

132. But of course I'll vote for the Dem nominee. eom

[Tyler Durden]

133. Hey, you know me Will.

I'd vote for a 1970 Candy Apple Red Pontiac GTO as long it's politics were blue.

[durrrty libby]

136. Yes

[jpak]

138. absolutely

n/t

[TornadoTN]

139. I'm definately voting for the nominee, whoever it may be

To do anything otherwise is unconscionable.

[davekriss]

140. Aye

[ElizabethDC]

142. Absolutely! n/t

[azmouse]

143. I will.

I'd never, ever vote for a Repubicon.

[fenriswolf]

146. at least

hillary is smart enough to know that you cannot keep draining a country dry, if you wanna suckle on the teat you gotta keep it living. so I guess vote for hillary if you want america to not completly break down (god this sucks)

[kmla]

147. Count me in.

I may have to do it with one hand. Because I might be holding my nose with the other one.

But I'll vote for the Democratic candidate, whoever it is.

[Marr]

148. Not if it's Hillary Clinton, no.

I won't support anyone who could vote for both the IWR and the Lieberman/Kyle amendment. I think supporting that would be detrimental to not only the party and it's stated ideals, but the country in the long run.

That's not an insult-- just a difference of opinion.

As an aside, I also believe that promising support before we've held a primary is unwise. I wouldn't walk into a car dealership and announce that I would definitely be buying a car from them that day. That's no way to negotiate, and it's a great way to make yourself irrelevant.

[Roxy66]

164. So you would risk a Repug for another 4 years?

and don't tell me theres no diference

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

174. There's no difference.

[TwilightZone]

183. Yes, I'm sure that Hillary would have nominated John Roberts to the Supreme Court.

Pushed tax cuts for the rich.

Submitted anti-choice judges to various appeals courts.

Pursued an anti-choice, anti-gay rights agenda.

Given all of our money to Halliburton.

Pushed abstinence-only education.

Tried to privatize Social Security.

Yes, I'm certain that she'd repeat all of those items on the Bush agenda. Her record proves it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

190. Well, she voted for the war.

She's got the blood of 1.2 million women, children, homosexuals, and others on her hands.

And now she's warmongering again.

So no, I wouldn't trust her to support anything decent.

[TwilightZone]

218. And the rest of her record? Still no difference?

Earlier, you accused me of being in denial. Perhaps you should consider the possibility that I'm not the only one.

[BlooInBloo]

274. Many DUers would PREFER a republican to Clinton.

[Hekate]

280. "Many"? Really? You mean, like "No difference between Bush and Gore"? Truly? nt

[TwilightZone]

292. Sadly, I'm beginning to believe that's true.

[auburngrad82]

295. I suspect you speak for exactly one DUer

Others may agree, but you can only speak for yourself. I would never prefer a Republican to a Democrat. But then I'm not a one issue voter. I want the war to end but I also want the environment to be protected, Social security to be protected, healthcare to be an issue, and reproductive rights to be an issue. I'd also like stemcells to be an issue as well as equal rights for all Americans, regardless of your sexual preference.

[Marr]

202. The question to me is, "will the party establishment risk another four years

of Republican rule?".

If they insist upon promoting people who don't appeal to a sizable portion of their voting base, who is to blame? The voters who refuse to support politicians who don't represent them, or the politicians?

[porphyrian]

315. If our only real power to affect government is our vote...

...and there is evidence to support this, then you are absolutely correct. Apparently some are either unable or unwilling to even entertain these possibilities, using this administration's own tactics to leverage compliance (using fear of another republican term/loss of more Supreme Court seats/shunning by the herd to enforce compliance).

[marions ghost]

199. I wish I thought

that we have any real negotiating power at this point... The fact that Hillary has been anointed already really irks me. We'll see if the others have any real chance. I expect it to come down to a close one between Obama, Edwards and Clinton (with Kucinich after that). I think Hillary could be edged out yet.

I think she is wrong, wrong, wrong as a presidential candidate and should stay in the Senate--but of course we would have no choice but to vote for her. I could much more easily vote for Edwards, Kucinich or Obama (though I think Obama would be better after a few more years). I'd work hard for any one of them. Hillary doesn't strike me as needing any help.

It's till somewhat unpredictable...but although I'm no yellowdog, I'd have to go with D, since we have such a primitive binary system. It's just that "the lesser of two evils" is not going to really turn anything around. Maybe as others have said, It's just a finger in the dike.

[CreekDog]

393. It won't be decided until the voters vote

So, don't mock the voters by suggesting they are irrelevant and that the "anointing" is all that matters in choosing the nominee.

[marions ghost]

573. "mock the voters" LOL

it's not me mocking the voters...that's done by those in positions of real power.

Voters who have been programmed and manipulated by the media are not really making choices. I see it all around me. Even intelligent people buy the line "it'll probably be Hillary...." way way before the primary. People aren't even all that conscious of how they've been sold this. It's very effective.

The sound bites such as "Hillary is the only one who can defeat the swiftboaters..." or "Hillary will clean things up because she's a woman"...or "Hillary is married to Bill and will return us to Good Times"--people really do buy these illogical arguments based on absolutely nothing of substance. When you ask these people what she has really done or will do, they can't tell you.

I admire Hillary for making a career for herself in politics despite her husband's flaws and egoism & underestimation of his enemies re. Monica. Hillary deserves much credit for the way she handled that and has gone on to a successful Senate career. But that does not make her a better candidate than several of the others.

Anointing matters --very much --when the media controls what people think. They have anointed the corporate status quo Dem candidate, and because of her background they would love to "cover" the hoo-ha and "story" of her candidacy.

Voters are becoming more and more irrelevant--or shall we say, more subject to herd mentality and sorted into predictable political behavior. That bothers me very much. I understand why people often don't bother to vote. It's fine to talk about how it works in a real democracy, but IMO we are not a democracy, if we ever were. We are a Plutocracy posing as a Democracy.

Not talking about this doesn't help matters.

[NavyDavy]

224. then don't and get the repuke you deserve

[CreekDog]

395. But I don't deserve to get what their idiocy gives me

That's what bugs me.

In 2000, a bunch of comfortable white colleagues (and their children) voted against the affirmative action candidate, Al Gore, and for Nader.

How convenient.

They saw no difference between Bush and Gore (for them!). For folks who depend on things that Al Gore swore to protect, these so-called progressive voters voted against the interests of those much more vulnerable than themselves.

Frankly it would be nice if the voters got what they deserved, but the Al Gore voters didn't, they got what the others deserved.

Life ain't fair.

[pnwmom]

228. Hillary is pro-Constitution, pro-choice, pro-environment, pro-labor

for a higher minimum wage, for universal health care -- all positions you won't find the Rethug nominee supporting. As critical as Iraq is, it isn't the only issue that separates the Bushies from all the Democrats.

[txaslftist]

241. You left out Pro War.

Might as well get it all out there.

[pnwmom]

320. She voted against the last appropriation request for Iraq

and has pledged to vote against any other appropriation requests without a timetable for withdrawal.

She has said repeatedly that she would not have voted for the IWR if she had known that the facts it was based on were false.

Compared to ANY of the Rethug candidates except for Ron Paul, that makes her a peace-nik.

[txaslftist]

353. She just voted for Lieberman-Kyl.

That's a greenlight to bomb Iran. She also won't commit to pulling us out by 2013.

And since you're the one who brought up Ron Paul, I say:

GO RON PAUL !!!

[emilyg]

561. It really is not.

[The Wielding Truth]

355. She seems to be unable to resist a republican reason for

aggression. Iran may have been involved in pushing back our black ops into Iraq or even sending troops into iraq for other reasons.

They are right next door. How could they not get involved somehow? Yet, to designate their army as terrorists is a step that only a fearful dopey republicon could try and sell and she bought it.

She voted to give authority to Bush again. That bothers me too much. With a fully democratic staff with a full investigative team maybe she would be a good president, but I cannot in good conscience support her as a nominee.

[blondeatlast]

249. I'd like to engage in a respectful dialog regarding her vote for K/L.

I know you as a thoughtful and restrained poster; I'm not always either one, but I try.

As an undecided voter, I've still been quick to come to her defense when an unjustified, manipulative attack (and there have been many) has been waged against her right here at DU. I certainly understand she's been singled out by both the media and the opposition and it hasn't been pretty. I've come to the defense of many of our candidates when the RW noise machine has stirred things up here as well.

I'm also aware that she is FAR more progressive regarding social issues than she's given credit for and I respect that. Certainly she's more apt to nominate progressive judges to SCOTUS. I can make a tremendous case for her--and the fact she and I have similar anatomies is a major bonus.

All that being said...

I'm horrified at the approval of Kyl/Lieberman. I'm ashamed that any Democratic senator could vote for it. I respect that she actually went on record with a vote (unlike Obama; he lost me completely with that), but it's so important IMHO that it's a damn near a deal-breaker in the primary and has me questioning what I will do in the General if she is the nominee.

If it were another president in the WH, I might be more able to forgive. I'll even admit that I was hoodwinked on IWR and have never second-guessed any Dems vote on that one. But has she not learned that you can't give W an inch? I have to question her leadership after that--I just cannot set it right in my heart.

[pnwmom]

319. Hello blondeatlast

And let me first say that I love your name -- I'm aiming for platinum, though it will take a while.

I was deeply disappointed with the K/L vote, but have decided to take her assurance at face value -- that it wasn't a vote authorizing an attack of any kind. Still . . . I know how these things can be twisted. And I don't blame Democrats for being angry. But we also need to be practical. If we sit out the election because we're mad at this vote, or throw our votes away on a third party candidate, then what have we done? Helped to elect another Rethug.

I was against the IWR to the point of standing out on street corners with my children waving signs. But I can understand the position all the Democrats were in. In October 2002 Bush was still extremely popular, and the Repubs were preparing to ride into a new majority on his coattails. At that juncture, Bush put forth his IWR, which would have allowed him to attack not just Iraq, but Iran, Syria, anywhere in the middle east. (According to Chuck Hagel, anywhere in the world.)

The Dems had a choice. They could either try to work with the Repubs and pass a compromise IWR that limited Bush to Iraq and required him to get the U.N. involved, or they could defeat the Oct. IWR -- and then watch helplessly while the new Republican majority passed the version of an IWR that Bush had asked for in the first place, giving him a virtual blank check.

I honestly don't know who I'm going to vote for in the primary, except that it will be someone that I think can beat the Rethugs in November.

[CreekDog]

396. IMO this is a very well thought out and well explained post

People forget these decisions aren't made in a vacuum.

[pnwmom]

420. You're right. These decisions are definitely not made in a vacuum.

And the context here is that anything the future Democratic nominee, whoever that turns out to be, says or does is going to be twisted by the Rethugs and used against him or her in November 08.

So there is this horrible tightrope our candidates are walking of trying to please the Democratic base and yet not alienate too many of the undecideds, who seem to find it all too easy to be lured in by the Rethugs.

And thanks, by the way, for your comment.

:)

[Sparkly]

260. Thank you.

On so many issues, any Democrat is better than any Republican, by FAR.

The lie that "there's no difference" really irks me! :mad:

[MethuenProgressive]

624. That's just what the GOP wants from you, Marr.

The only way Clinton/Obama loses is with your help.

[Marr]

709. We haven't had primaries yet.

She's not the nominee. The only way Clinton will lose is if the party ignores what a sizable portion of their voting base is saying; that they will not vote for her. If we're irrelevant, then they should chug right ahead-- but if we're not, then people need to rethink who they're backing in the primaries. Either way, if Clinton loses it will not be the fault of people who have said from the very beginning that they would not vote for a pro-war candidate.

[DeepModem Mom]

149. Raising hand, "present."

[pacalo]

150. Of course I will.

I haven't yet made a choice to which Democrat I'd like to see in the White House, although I've got my eye on several. My mind is still open.

But one thing that has been instilled in me -- & I think all of us -- during this nightmare is that I'll keep an eye on whoever's in the White House. There's not one Democrat who will come anywhere close to deserving the impeachment that Bush has earned over & over again. Impeachment based on character assassination will no longer be possible, thanks to the watchdogs of the internet.

[Rambis]

151. I will gladly vote for any of them

some will make me happier than others but anything is better than Mittthomrudicain

[King Coal]

152. I will if they don't start calling this place "RepublicanUnderground.com".

[Roxy66]

170. it does seem that way lately...doesnt it

[HuskerDU]

155. I'm for DK, but I'll be running to the polls on election day to vote

for whomever our nominee is.

[JackRiddler]

160. LaRouche? Genghis Khan? Charles Lindbergh?

Rah rah sis boom bah!

[spoony]

585. Those all sound better than Rudy

At least Genghis rode into the wars he started. Rudy would certainly just sit on his arse ten thousand miles away feeding kids into the latest vainglorious meat grinder the Reps get us into.

[watercolors]

161. I will vote Dem no matter who the candidate!

nt

[never cry wolf]

162. Straight ticket D, DINO or not

[Klukie]

163. Yes, I am voting Dem.

[SeattleGirl]

165. I will be.

We can't take another 4 years of a Republican in office.

[mcar]

167. I will vote Democratic

n/t

[Reciprocity]

168. The way I see it you have two choices.

Vote democrat, vote republican or not vote at all. By not voting, you are voting republican in my opinion.

[Ninga]

171. Primary Edwards----General, whoever. period without question.

[Heidi]

172. Me. The only realistic way of electing a Democrat for president is to vote for our nominee. (nt)

[DURHAM D]

175. I will most definitely Stamp the Roster. n/t

[SaveElmer]

177. Without a doubt...and without reservation...even if it is Kucinich...nt

[guitar man]

178. I will

As much as I may not like some of them, I am voting a straight yellow dog ticket in '08 because I have had more than my fill of Bu$h and his damned rethugs.

However, I am going to hold their feet to the fire, should they get the white house and retain a majority in congress, they BETTER DAMN WELL PERFORM or all bets are off as to who I would vote for in any subsequent elections.

08 will be their last chance with me, they better make good on it.

[Libby2]

179. Yep, I sure am.

[soleft]

180. Unless someone I like better runs as an independent

But since that's HIGHLY unlikely, I will probably be voting for Dem nominee.

[kwyjibo]

182. Uh, I think it would be nice to have a Democratic president, so yes.

[sandnsea]

184. Me, certainly n/t

[Judi Lynn]

Oh, YEAH!What,after all,is the alternative?I trust him/her to be the best Democrat he/she can be.nt

[txaslftist]

186. I tried that in 2000 and in 2004.

I'm voting for a candidate I can believe in, or I'm not voting.

I'm not party property.

[The Witch]

187. ayu. :)

[Midlodemocrat]

Without question. I always vote for the democratic candidate.

[KansDem]

188. I'm voting for the candidate whose last name ends with a capital "D"

...and I'm always marginally helpful! Just ask my wife...

[BrainGlutton]

189. Definitely voting for the Dem.

[Mr. Ected]

191. Better DEM Than THEM

If that's not everyone's motto at DU, then somebody is seriously lost in cyberspace.

[MoonRiver]

192. Count me in.

I will vote for the Democratic candidate NO MATTER who s/he is. PERIOD.

[dmallind]

194. Check out the sig line

Been there for a long time. Will stay there until after the GE.

[judaspriestess]

196. ultimately YES I'm voting for the dem nominee

I couldn't live with myself if I didn't. I may not be super gleeful in doing it if a certain person gets the nomination but will still have my reluctant support no matter what becuase I am a Democrat bottom line.

[Lucinda]

197. SCOTUS, SCOTUS, SCOTUS, SCOTUS

and all that other stuff.

Absolutely.

[SammyWinstonJack]

198. No matter who it is. That I will do. nt.

[LittleClarkie]

200. To be honest, it won't be a pleasant experience if it's Hillary, but yes I will

I'm going to take some convincing if I'm wrong about her. And the current crop of Hillary supporters don't look like the ones to do it.

But the worst Dem is still better than voting Republican.

[petronius]

201. As long as it's not "Satan (D)", I'm in... (nt)

[elizfeelinggreat]

203. Yes I am

count me in

[Scout]

204. i will vote for dem nominee. n/t

[abq e streeter]

205. As I've said before

there are times to stand your ground and refuse to vote for a media-anointed, corporate DLC sellout. This is not one of those times. There will be larger majorities (hopefully!) in the both the house and senate, but maybe not enough to override vetoes. HRC, as much as I don't like or trust her, is NOT going to veto good laws passed by congress. She isn't going to appoint right wing lunatic fringe judges and cabinet secretaries. I appeal to all of you to vote for our nominee, even if it turns your stomach to do it. Your stomach's going to be turning a lot worse with president Mitt, Rudy, Fred etc...And this goes for supporters of HRC, Barack, whoever... , no matter who gets the nomination. Your least favorite Dem in the White House, will still be a huge step up from a republican. We gotta stick together on this, and we can start slugging it out again after we have a Democrat in the White House. Just my opinion.

[Poiuyt]

206. I will be voting Dem

[Raster]

207. I will vote for the Dem nominee no matter if it's HRC or a limp dishrag.

Oh wait, one and the same.:spank:

[Warren DeMontague]

208. Right here, buddy. Wouldn't miss it.

I will vote for our nominee, no matter who he or she is. And I think we have an excellent field this year. Obviously, I have my preferences, but when it comes right down to it I will be proud to send ANY of 'em to the White House in 2009.

[OBrien]

212. you can bet this yellow dog will!

uh, isn't this the DEMOCRATICunderground?

[yodermon]

215. I will vote to preserve the supreme court, no matter what --

Even if it means permanent retroactive war with Eastasia.

[renie408]

217. I am voting for the SCOTUS, too. It scares the shit out of me to think of Fred Thompson

nominating the next three Supreme Court Justices.

[RedEarth]

219. Of course....not only vote, but also work on their campaign

[lonestarnot]

223. I might have to plug my nose, but yes, that is what I will be doing.

[pnwmom]

225. Yes. Absolutely. Postively. For certain. No question. Without a doubt.

Any Democratic nominee would be heads and shoulders above the alternative.

[davsand]

226. I will work the full Dem ticket--and that includes the Presidential Nominee.

Nothing new about that--pretty much what I have been doing for a very long time...


Laura

[cynatnite]

227. Absolutely! n/t

[Hissyspit]

230. Of course I'll vote for the nominee. Two words: Supreme Court. But

that doesn't mean I won't be thoroughly disgusted while I check the box.

[CT_Progressive]

233. A Dem Presidet = no need for veto-proof votes in Congress = we start passing what we want.

Simple as that.

[Greybnk48]

234. I don't care if the Dem nominee is Earnest T. Bass

I'll vote for him. Period.

[Raine]

359. I wish he was running

I like him better than the majority of those that are in the race. :D

[trackfan]

236. Y

[solara]

239. I plan to, I mean I would NEVER vote republican, but also I am very sorry to say

that I am starting to feel quite skittish about Hillary. I don't like some of the stuff she has been saying lately and I no longer think she is all that interested in actually ENDING Bush's illegal and deadly occupation of Iraq.

Also, I just don't trust her to resist a full-on WAR with Iran and that really concerns me. Am I not seeing something I should be seeing? If she is our nominee I am not going to feel at all good about casting my vote for her.

So, if someone here can allay these fears of mine, please, please do so. I never thought I would be saying this.

How could things have gotten so much freaking worse?


INVESTIGATE IMPEACH INDICT IMPRECATE INCARCERATE :banghead:


:kick: kick-a-go-go

[snooper2]

240. Sure, why not continue the plutocracy...

Bush
Bush
Bush
Bush
Clinton
Clinton
Clinton
Clinton
Clinton
Clinton
Clinton
Clinton
Bush
Bush
Bush
Bush
Bush
Bush
Bush
Bush
Clinton
Clinton
Clinton
Clinton
Who gives a shit anymore
Who gives a shit anymore
Who gives a shit anymore
Who gives a shit anymore

[Reciprocity]

297. I do. So if you don't care why are you on this message board?

[KamaAina]

242. Lyndon LaRouche isn't running, is he?

As long as it's not him, I'm in! :dem:

[Auntie Bush]

243. Before I ever voted Rethuglican, not voted or voted third party...I'd kill myself!

I guess you could add me to your list!

[diane in sf]

244. I will, but I'm sending $/time/etc. to Edwards, Kucinich and draft Gore.

Hilary and Obama are too corporate and triangulating, but either of them would be better than any Repug.

[pinto]

245. Count me in.

We absolutely need to stop the (R) perversion of the the federal bureaucracies - from the White House to the federal Departments - and seize the opportunity a Democratic president may well nominate, and Democratic Congress approve, one or two Supreme Court justices.

The straightest path to those ends are recapturing the WH and increasing our majorities in the Congress.

:kick:

[Owl]

246. Yes! n/t

[donheld]

247. Yes Will

I am voting for the nominee

[acmavm]

248. Of course. Is there really any alternative?

[CitizenLeft]

250. me

No matter what.

[NewJeffCT]

251. Any of the current candidates are far more preferable than any Republican

The most important thing being trying to tip the federal judiciary back to the center.

[mtnester]

252. I will - and so will most folks in my demographic

40-50 female Midwest swing state

THAT said, let me tell you what the 25-33 demographics are saying - unless the candidates start to address or even think about them, and soon, they will be staying home...now, this is not my sentiment, and I argue vociferously about it every time I hear it, but this age group is jaded after two elections, one where their candidate lost, and another where they listened to us boomers/tweeners, held their noses, and voted, and THAT candidate lost too (no matter how either happened, lost they both did). That age group does not see any of the Dem candidates (and certainly none of the Repub candidates) reaching out at all to them..in any way. They are morose, hopeless, jaded and losing interest by the minute.

Candidates - listen well..you will LOSE a large, young voting block if you do not figure out how to reach them, and soon.

This is what I hear among that age group, over and over and over. Midwest as it gets...Ohio...from Central Ohio to the river. And it irritates the dickens out of me. I work hard to tell them how important it is to make sure a Dem gets into 1600, and they look at me with total disinterest. They used to look excited. I am worried.

[Dr Fate]

253. Voting for and doing hard, passionate work for are 2 different things.

It's going to be difficult working under people who think of me as a "Crazy, hippie, out-of-touch, nut-roots" guy just becuase I oppose wars based on lies.

I would like to avoid that if possible.

[wildeyed]

255. yes n/t

[Zorra]

257. I will, with an exception.

If the Democratic nominee chooses a republican for a running mate, I will vote Green.

[Sparkly]

258. Yes! Unequivocally. nt

[JuniperLea]

259. Oh, hell yes!

In the primary, we should all vote our conscience. At all costs, we should refrain from voting for the one we "think will win". That's exactly what we should not do!

Once our guy or gal has been determined, we should back that person 100%. This is one of the reasons I hate to see Dem on Dem bashing. What I'd like to see is talk like, "Well, I think my choice does it better because a, b, c." Not, "That smarmy bitch couldn't find her ass with both hands, no matter how huge it is." But rather, "My candidate is fully able to find his/her ass, with one hand."

[Az]

261. No matter what?

Thats pretty broad. Its just a name. But from the current stable of candidates I don't see anyone that would drive me from the party. But the phrase no matter what includes crazy things like them nominating Jeb Bush for some unknown reason. But within reason.... I am sticking with the Dems.

[uppityperson]

262. I am, unless am in area where it won't count, in which case possibly 3rd party.

Living in a place where 95% vote one way, I'll have to decide at the last moment, depending upon who the candidates are.

[B3Nut]

263. Absolutely.

If it's Hillary I'll be holding my nose, but anything to get a Dem in the WH. Two words: Supreme Court. We can't afford another Republican with the power to nominate justices to the Supreme Court.

We *have* to get a Dem in the WH. That's IMHO indisputable.

Todd in Cheesecurdistan

[DFW]

264. Sure I am, and I won't even hold my nose.

The next Democratic president will be nominating at least one, probably
more than one, Supreme Court Justice. If you don't care about another
Scalia-Thomas-Roberts-Alito deciding the laws of our land, then vote
for someone else or abstain, if you don't like the nominee. If you do care,
then whether enthusiastically or with the greatest of disdain, vote Democratic
this time. It will never be more important in our lifetime.

I'm not advocating blind party loyalty, I'm advocating saving an endangered
species: a superpower not totally given over to decline or dictatorship.
I believe this is our last chance. Maybe I'm being too much of a pessimist,
but I want those Diebold machines destroyed, and the Supreme Court buffered
against total right wing dominatiton. I see them sort of like that robot chip
in Terminator II. Our future depends on it, and there evil forces out there
that will go to any length to preserve their domination.

[liberalpress]

265. Here's the thing..

I don't necessarily have to like the nominee, but he/she certainly has my vote

[blue neen]

266. Absolutely.

There is one candidate who I would support more enthusiastically than the others, but I'm voting Democratic all the way...no matter what!

[PCIntern]

267. without question...

I can't think of a single person whom I would not vote for who could possibly be nominated.

[KharmaTrain]

268. I Have Faith In The Primary Voters

First...who can predict what shit sandwich this country will be eating a year from now. I don't expect things to get better. The bottom line is any Democrat is preferable to a Repugnican...PERIOD. I'll defer to the millions voting in the primaries as to whom the nominee will be and both support and probably work for that person.

There's too much at stake to let the GOOP have any real power. It's not just Iraq...it's SCOTUS, a woman's right to choose, health care, education, an economy heading into third-world territory, a crumbling infrastructure and more. Whomever takes over on 1-20-09 will have to be one hell of a good manager and able to tackle these problems from Day One. There's no "learning curve" here.

[Daphne08]

270. Of course, I will. It's a no-brainer.

Supreme Court.

[rucky]

272. Depends. If it's making people that nervous...

I may reconsider my "no matter what" position.

We can either bully each other into submission, try to influence the platform from the grassroots, or at least try to find some common ground. But if people don't like what they're hearing, it's their right not to support it.

[semillama]

275. Voting for the dem nominee

because I am then voting for a Dem president of the Senate, Dem nominees for SCOTUS vacancies, Dem nominees for AG, CIA head and so on, Dem Secretary of Defence, Dem Secretary of the Interior, etc and such.

Really, see past the one person and take account of the effects!

[Bonobo]

277. Sure! I always promise my vote before getting what I want in a candidate. Doesn't everyone?

[DaveJ]

279. Yes. I can't wait. n/t

[StarryNite]

281. Absolutely

Our worst possible candidate is still better than their best.

[BlackVelvet04]

282. I will..........

unless the Dem nominee is satan and then I would flip a coin. ;-)

[Raksha]

283. I cast my first presidential ballot for George McGovern in 1968,

and ever since then I have voted for the Democratic candidate, except for the critical 2000 election in which I was in the middle of a personal crisis and was unable to vote at all, even though I tried at the last minute.

Now for the first time in my life I am considering NOT voting for the proverbial lesser of two evils. The Bush mafia has so trashed this country that nothing will work now except radical change--band-aid and cosmetic solutions are just NOT going to cut it any more! That lesser of two evils trap is what has kept us a "captive" electorate year after year, election cycle after election cycle. I've been seeing and participating in it for 40 years now and I am just plain fed up with it!

[creeksneakers2]

678. Did McGovern run in 1968?

I thought that was 1972.

[JohnnyLib2]

284. Yessir.

[VelmaD]

285. Do you even have to ask?

:)

Of course I'll vote for the Democratic nominee.

[auburngrad82]

286. I will vote for the Democratic nominee in 2008

I especially love all the DU posts about if you vote for (place Democratic candidate name here) you're doing what the Republicans want you to do! I guess I'm just a GOP plant who likes to convince Democrats to vote Dem in order to defeat the GOP.

Go figure.

[RushIsRot]

289. I will withhold my vote before I throw it away on a DLC-chosen

Republican-lite.

[Fridays Child]

291. That is my intention.

[Minimus]

293. Yes - I will be thinking about the SCOTUS when I cast my vote.

[ShaneGR]

296. I'd vote for a retarded incapacitated Dem before ANY Republican for POTUS.

Too much at stake, my point of view is that even a bad Dem can't do nearly as much damage as the best the Republican's have to offer. Too much religious and corporate influence.

[Jed Dilligan]

298. Probably, but not happily

If Pres. Hillary steps up the war I will be on the front lines of the protests. I will advocate her impeachment and, in fact, the dissolution of the corrupt federal government and a redrawn constitution.

[SlowDownFast]

299. Yep. Even if it's

for that woman that shall not be named.

[Beausoleil]

302. I will n/t

[coffeenap]

303. Here!nt

[SaveOurDemocracy]

304. ANY Dem is better than GOP slime.

[bleever]

305. I will.

Absofuckinglutely.

[rinsd]

306. I plan on voting for the nominee (nt)

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

307. I will

even if it seems to me, at that time to be the lesser of two evils......... :shrug:

[devilgrrl]

308. I will but I don't care for how the nominee is chosen, nor the "centrist" position they taken

eom

[mulsh]

309. count me in

I have very little against any of the dems who are presently running and will happily vote for any who get the nomination.

[LSdemocrat]

311. Yes, I will vote for the Democratic nominee

[flying_wahini]

313. yes, I will.

n/t

[NNN0LHI]

316. I have said it before and don't mind saying it again

The worst Democratic candidate is 100 times better than the best Rethug candidate.

So that makes this easy for me.

Don

[madmom]

317. All Dem, all the time!!!!

[mitchtv]

321. I will, not only that but I really like most of them

I will not contribute til much later, as Move on is getting their money for the reminder of this year. I am disappointed in all of them , except Dennis and Gravel .

[Hobarticus]

322. You have to ask?

Just kidding....lately, you HAVE to ask.

[in_cog_ni_to]

323. Even if I have to hold my nose....a Dem it is. THIS election is not the time to make a statement,

IMCPO.

[PATRICK]

324. Yes because

the battle for everything does not end at the election of ANY Democrat, but it does end in horror at the election of the false choice tyranny party.

There is NO real election anyway, just a war for democracy. Hillary or DK or anyone would be just a first step facing the same resistance. Internal party progess and better battles would be arguably enhanced by the best candidate, but a yellow dog will do if the people do the job. No one else except we, the electorate(who have lost the one person one vote privliege to fraud), can win the war.

The argument that the party needs the DLC destroyed is the wrong argument at the wrong time and likely the DLC will linger on like the old Soviet Union until it fades all of democracy to ruin if the voters exert no power except to submit silently to dictatorship.

[WI_DEM]

327. No doubt about it

[johnfunk]

330. The Dem nominee can count on my vote. Period.

[Ellipsis]

331. Yup.n/t

[huskerlaw]

332. I will.

Perhaps not happily, but I will.

[wndycty]

333. Oh hell yeah!

:kick:

[puebloknot]

334. With respect, this is like being at the Nuremberg Rallies and crying "Roosevelt."

I came here of my own accord, of course. I will consult my conscience when the time comes to vote, or not, for my democratic/Democratic principles. I am fully aware of the SCOTUS concern, but hardly convinced that Hillary, for example, wouldn't cave to personal religious considerations, as might the other "front runners."

I have to wonder how this random sampling stacks up against the people who lurk, the ones who are already torn about poor choices but don't want to get "swiftboated" here by speaking their heartfelt concerns about DINO candidates.

Handing the mike over ....

[Terran]

336. It's kinda like my heartfelt concerns...

about abortion. I have them, but I'm never going to say we should deny anyone's right to have one, because the alternatives are far far worse. Sooooo...sure, we might end up with a damn corporatist who won't do much of anything to change the wreckless paradigm we're using, but he or she would still be better than any living republican I can think of.

Count me in Will. Without hesitation

[puebloknot]

338. My concern is whether we will love living in a de facto fascist state ...

... regardless of whether he/she playing with the corporatists is a Dem or a Repub.

I want the Dem candidates to come clean with their intentions to roll back all the unconstitutional legislation they have enabled thus far. I am not holding my breath. And, of course, just as with the election in 2006, they can promise all and deliver little to nothing. That's not a Big D thing to do!

[WilliamPitt]

342. Fuck that.

Take your Nazi comparisons and stuff them sideways.

Seriously. FUCK that. Not even close to funny, and not even close to appropriate.

[puebloknot]

356. I'm in great company with Naomi Klein, for one example, who *gets it* ...

... that Nazi comparisons are possibly the most important consideration we have right here and right now.

Blind party followership is a very "Nazi" thing to do.

Sorry I messed up your pure sample here, Mr. Pitt. And when, and by whom, were you crowned with power to decide what is funny and, most of all, what is appropriate????

You're welcome for the kick!

[mmonk]

335. I won't be voting republican or third party.

I will most likely vote for the democratic presidential nominee unless I have a sense that person is not going to or has some sort of problem with fully reinstating constitutional rule (which I assume at this point they will reinstate it but I'd better not get a hint from that person they won't). I'll also state that I always vote democratic.

[earth mom]

340. Why should it matter to you? Frankly this smells like group think to me.

Either you're with us or against us mentality.

[WilliamPitt]

344. Why should it matter to you either?

[earth mom]

348. You asked for opinions didn't you? FYI-Few around here are brave enough to speak up

and tell you what they really think about your question. So I did.

Here are YOUR words..."Anyone who wants to insult, question or argue against this idea is welcome to post here also."

[stranger81]

439. Based on the locking of the companion Lieberman poll thread,

I'm guessing we're not allowed to answer this question in the negative without violating DU message board rules.

Would love to be wrong, but I think this thread was just meant to out people. No thoughtful disagreement permitted, since the premise is that disagreement is by definition not thoughtful.

[lamp_shade]

458. You betcha !!

[Virginia Dare]

758. When you've got two viable choices on a ballot..

that's pretty much the way it boils down.

[SalviaBlue]

341. I'll vote for whichever Dem wins the primary

I'll vote for Kucinich in the primary

[L. Coyote]

343. Hello!!

[Catherine Vincent]

345. Any Democrat but a Republican. n/t

[dog_lovin_dem]

346. I'll be voting for the

democratic candidate.

[MasonJar]

347. I am voting for the democratic nominee if it is a one-celled organism at the

bottom of the Pacific. Such a president would have been a miracle for the past 8 miserable years compared to the Bush/Cheney ticket.

[SmokingJacket]

349. Me.

Another Republican? I think not.

[alfredo]

350. I bleed blue. The worst Dem is better than the best Repub

[AZBlue]

351. You bet!

I won't vote Republican, and doing anything but supporting the Dem nominee = voting Republican.

[juajen]

354. Of course, count me in. Thanks, William, for posting this.

We all need to be reminded that we, at our worst, are better than the best of them.

[greiner3]

357. I have to vote Democratic;

Have you seen the semi-humans that call themselves republican? I'm socialistic so there will never be any candidates that I fully agree with, not in 10 lifetimes at this rate. I would fully support Gore and would even do campaign work for his campaign.

[lyonn]

358. Who else would I vote for?

Repubs arn't even human and I might as well stay home than vote for "others".

[ourbluenation]

360. 10-4. you bet.

[Deb]

361. For sure

:-)

[The Wielding Truth]

363. Wiil, not taking you for grated. Are you voting Dem?

My answer is :Kucinich has all the common sense and compassion, courage and intelligence to be a great President. Any of the Democratic candidates with a strong progressive democratic staff. 98% yes. Protect the Supreme court,100% yes.

[Gold Metal Flake]

364. The Supreme Court of the United States.

I might be pissed as hell at the choice of nominee, but I'm not stupid. Of course I will vote for the Dem.

[The Wielding Truth]

444. Who is that with Hilary? Looks like it could be her Dad.

[Gold Metal Flake]

468. That is Rupert Murdoch.

They look so happy together.

[The Wielding Truth]

480. I knew it was a stupid question,but I had to know.

:spray::dunce: Yep, they look so cozy,and they kindda have the same expression.

[Gold Metal Flake]

484. Not stupid at all!

I don't think so. But, yeah, that's his fetid mug. They do seem to get along alarmingly well.


:puke:

[MethuenProgressive]

625. Has Edwards given back his NewsCorp money yet?

:eyes:

[Gold Metal Flake]

736. I don't know.

Why do you ask?

[undeterred]

365. Yes.

:kick:

[wildwww2]

366. Yes, I will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is.

Period.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[many a good man]

367. Anybody remember when voting machines had one lever you could pull

that would vote a straight Dem (or Repug) ticket? I miss those machines!

That way you don't have to look too close.

[hyphenate]

369. Ditto

ABR--ANYONE but a Republican

[Bucky]

370. With one exception, yes. If the Democrats nominate Will Pitt, I'm voting Green. Grrrrr.

I've always suspected Pitt is a Whig In Name Only.

[mondo joe]

371. Yes. eom

[IsItJustMe]

372. I will. We have to keep hope alive and as long as there is a Dem, there is hope that things can

change.

[Mike03]

374. Count Me In

I will vote for the Democratic nominee, regardless of who it is. No question about it...

[toadzilla]

375. I'll hold my nose and do it even if it's Hillary.

though I really want to write in Dennis Kucinich even if he is not nominated.

[marlakay]

378. yes even if I have to puke after...nt

[lumberjack_jeff]

380. President Hillary, no matter how much that sucks, is still better than president (R) asshole.

Yuck. Yes.

[AnnInLa]

382. Yo!

Voting Dem no matter what.

[Faygo Kid]

383. After what happened in 2000? Of course.

What an infinitely better world we would be living in if Al Gore had won such a crushing landslide that even Rove couldn't have taken it from him.

Count me in for the Dem, and count me out for Nader and any third party candidate, too. The stakes are too high for a protest vote this time. It's a Dem for me. Then that person better do the right thing. . .

[pscot]

388. of course

n/t

[roseBudd]

389. I would vote for a bologna sandwich if it's a Democrat, I vote straight D ticket

[stillrockin]

390. Yes, I will, but

I pray that it will be someone I believe in and not a DINO.

[JitterbugPerfume]

392. of course I will

after all is said and done, I am a DEMOCRAT,

and any Democrat is better than any Republican.

[immoderate]

397. OK

--IMM

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

398. Me.

Even if it's Hillary. I won't like it much, but consider the alternative...

[goodgd_yall]

400. I am. n/t

[redwitch]

401. Dem here.

Whoever gets the nom had damn well better get our troops home though.

[scarletwoman]

402. If Hillary Clinton is the nominee, then no, I will not vote for her. I'm dead serious about this, &

I've been saying it for years.

So, here's your kick. Only because I hope that other refusniks will see this and take heart.

sw

[sellitman]

739. Duh!

8 years of Republican rule and you haven't learned a thing.

How sad.

[Kurovski]

403. Yes, I'm Voting for the Dem nominee. (nt)

[McCamy Taylor]

404. Me me me. Yellow dog before I could vote, Watched convention when I was 5 y/o in '64.

[OzarkDem]

405. Yes, of course

[NoPasaran]

406. Of course I will vote for our nominee.

[west michigan]

407. by way of a straight ticket...

...of course!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

408. I will support Mike Gravel if it comes to that.

[file83]

409. Since I'm not a mindless automaton, I'd have to say NO.

If it's Clinton vs. Ron Paul, I'm voting for Ron Paul.
Clinton vs. any other Repug, I guess it's Clinton, reluctantly.

If it's Obama vs. Ron Paul, I'm voting for Ron Paul.
Obama vs. any other Repug, I'd vote for Obama joyfully.

If it's Kucinich, he's got my vote no matter what.

If it's Edwards, he's got my vote no matter what.

If it's Gore, I might just help campaign for the guy - and hell YES, I'd vote for Gore no matter what.

Any other Dem runs, we'll just have to see.

[Savannah_H]

411. Vote

I will vote for Hillary because I'm getting old and I want to be here to see our first woman president.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

412. The SCOTUS thing is a WAR ISSUE

You can't be against the war while indifferent to the SCOTUS. Three more RW seats on the SC would result in thumbs up for domestic detainment camps for war protesters, those who argue against the draft, etc.

Torture? No problem.

Is it unconstitutional for congress to direct troop cuts? Not in the USA, but with three more barking loons on the SC deciding the question?

And so on...

[Catchawave]

417. Yes....SCOTUS is an election issue also....

We must come together for our Dem nom, unless it's.....ha, kidding :D

[CTyankee]

413. I will vote for the Democratic Party nominee. n/t

[sellitman]

414. I will vote for our Democratic Nominee NO MATTER WHO IT IS.

Anyone here who won't is my enemy.

Period.

[Name removed]

416. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Wheezy]

418. Yeah, even if it's the one I don't want. n/t

[ismnotwasm]

419. I am

And I've been since 2000. Maybe I'll change someday, but not this time, in no way.

[Jade Fox]

421. Yes, of course.

[DemGa]

422. Of course, staying home is a vote for a repuke n/t

[motocicleta]

423. Almost 100%

I will almost certainly vote for the Dem no matter who it is, although if it is Obama or Hillary and it looks like they have a safe lead, and there is a third party candidate with whom I can register a protest vote, then I might not.

More likely, though, is that the candidate will be one of the afore-mentioned unpalatables, and the race will look tight, so I will swallow my misgivings, pride, and dignity, and vote for them.

[Martin Eden]

424. I'll vote Dem, but dammit -- I want Al Gore !!!

I love Dennis and I'll take Barack over Hillary. My jury is still out over Edwards.

NO WAY will I take any action that would contribute to another repuke prez. I will vote for the Dem nominee.

[Joey Liberal]

426. I will vote for the Democratic nominee

No way in hell could I vote for a republiNazi.

[treestar]

427. Here and accounted for

voting for the dem regardless, being that a puke is a puke and they will remain repuklican.

[OnionPatch]

428. As I said in another post

it all comes down to one very important thing....the SCOTUS. I shudder to imagine what it would look like after one more Republican administration, so in the general election, I'm voting for whoever can beat the Republican. That means I'm voting Democratic no matter who the nominee is.

[REP]

429. Even if it's someone I can't stand

Not real likely - but I'd still do it.

[FreepFryer]

430. Hell Yes. This is a two-party system and the power CANNOT rest with the GOP any longer. (nt)

[struggle4progress]

432. That is my present intention, which I will follow unless something goes horridly wrong

At this point, I really plan to vote Democratic even if the nominee physically nauseates me

By horridly wrong, I mean something that would bring me to my knees puking, like (say) a Hillary-Jeb ticket ...

[AnnieBW]

433. Of course!

I'll vote for a Dem over a Repuke any day!

[gollygee]

434. I am voting straight party Dem no matter who it is

it's too important that we not have another Repub in office.

[stranger81]

436. Yes, with the nominees in the race now on both sides,

I would vote for the dem nominee no matter who that is. BUT I wouldn't necessarily do the same in the abstract in another race.

If Holy Joe is the 2012 democratic nominee for instance, against someone like Ron Paul on the other side, I would not vote for Joe. I'd be just as concerned, if not more concerned, about the type of Supreme Court justices Lieberman would nominate than Paul, and much more concerned about Lieberman's aggressive foreign policy. Unlikely we'd ever have an extremely conservative democratic nominee running against a libertarian-type republican, but if that happens, that's how I'm voting.

I've said it before on this board and I'm sure I'll say it again -- I'm a member of the Democratic Party because of the two major parties, it most closely matches my progressive principles. Not because I really like the name.

[RandomKoolzip]

437. As long as it's not Alf Landon, I'm down with whatever.

[JerseygirlCT]

438. That'd be me. nt

[DesertRat]

440. I absolutely will. With pleasure. n/t

[enough]

441. Yes

[gaspee]

442. If I decide not to

I'll stay home. No way I'd ever vote for a republican. Never cast a vote for one yet, can't see a time where I ever would.

[Pushed To The Left]

443. I will proudly vote for and volunteer for whoever the Democratic nominee is!

I like all of the candidates, even though I definitely like some more than others. However, my least favorite Democratic candidate is still better than the best Republican candidate.

[Odin2005]

445. *Raises hand* two words: Supreme Court. n/t

[mzmolly]

446. Posting...

;)

[liberalla]

447. l will be voting for the Dem candidate, no matter who it is.

However, my first choice is GORE and my second is Edwards.

I like Kucinich and Obama too. Any of them will be better than a repug.

[shireen]

448. choice is bad Dem or badder Republican ...

lousy choices, but it is better than no choice. No matter how discouraging, I have a responsibility to cast a vote for the Dem. nominee. :(

[merkins]

449. Straight Ticket

All The Way Pal!

[madokie]

450. Of course no matter who it is I am going to vote for the Democratic nominee

[Hoof Hearted]

451. Oh God yes. ME. Yes, I will vote for any of our Democrats with PRIDE.

Hell yes.

[frogmarch]

452. Absolutely

Edwards is my favorite candidate, but I will vote for whichever one is chosen as the Democratic nominee.

[smalll]

454. Yes I will. Even if it's Edwards. Even him. /nt

[ThoughtCriminal]

455. Even if it's Kodos or Kang

But I forget which one is a Democrat.

[defendandprotect]

456. Likely, I will . . . . what else is there to do? Hold your nose and vote ---!!!

[Bigjoe7734]

457. Yep

I have no doubts that I'm voting for the Dem.

[piesRsquare]

459. Me me meeee!

If I don't vote Dem, it means I'm dead.

And yeah, I'd vote for the tree stump, too...

[Triana]

460. Yeppers...Even if it's Hillary ;) (n/t)

[lavenderdiva]

461. whoever the Dem. nominee is, will get my vote-

there are some I like more than others, but I will not quibble about whoever gets the nomination: they will get my vote. :kick:

[2008]

462. You mean if the choice comes down to Giant Douche or Shit Sandwich?

Giant Douche, of course.

Only an idiot would vote for Shit Sandwich.

[usrbs]

463. Of course. I'm serious about my politics. n/t

[Mister Ed]

464. I will. And I've been fiercely independent most of my life.

I do not have the luxury of independence in these times.

[bleever]

566. Well said.

:thumbsup:

[Longhorn]

465. No question. K&R nt

[GenDem]

466. Yes

The Dem always gets my vote. I supported Howard Dean during Primary season last time and when Kerry got the nomination I threw every ounce of support his way.

I'm a loyal party person -- I will always support the nominee in the end.

[il_lilac]

467. oh yeah nt

[Misskittycat]

469. Absolutely. n/t

[etherealtruth]

470. Without hesitation

[bagimin]

471. I'm holdin out fer Jeb!

kidding...after what we've been through, this question shouldn't
have to be asked.

[nevergiveup]

472. absolutely

although I will probably stock up on Kleenex for the evening if it is Hillary.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

474. Yes.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

475. yup nt

nt

[Lochloosa]

476. Done

Feel better?

[Marr]

477. I can't believe this embarrassing loyalty oath is still on the front page.

How very sad.

[onehandle]

508. This is DEMOCRATIC Underground.

It's right there in the name.

[Bonobo]

This isn't "Consider Your Vote Thoughtfully Underground," you know!

[stranger81]

591. Though I voted a reluctant yes,

I have to agree that this type of enthusiastic "party-before-country" outpouring scares the jeebus out of me. Bet there's a thread just like this one over at FR.

[JPettus]

479. Absolutely

Given that a vote for a third party candidate is a symbolic gesture tantamount to voting Republican, I feel that I have to support the Dem nominee.

[astonamous]

481. Dem for sure. n/t

[lolly]

482. OK

(raises hand)

[lonestarnot]

483. No doubt.

[Jonathan Pollard]

486. Yes, just to punish the GOP n/t

[Jonathan Pollard]

487. Although I wouldn't vote for Lieberman n/t

[lavendermist]

488. Yep......A bad Democrat is

better than a good republican any day. Not that we have any bad ones running. Just saying.

[Beerboy]

489. Voting Democratic as always.

If you don't want to vote Democratic, get ready to be insulted, answer questions, and argue your point. And you'll also be kicking this thread.
Think about the primaries.

[Chulanowa]

490. Right here

There is no Republican ever worth voting for.
There may be independants / 3rd party candidates, but the very nature of such candidates makes them ineffectual
And I can't just decide not to vote.

It's real simple folks. Look at whoever you consider to be the worst in the Democrat lineup for 2008. Look at them really hard.. .and then hold them up to whoever you would guess is the "best" Republican candidate. These are your choices, for better or worse. And I guarantee you, folks, the worst of the democrats is still several miles better than the best Republican.

[HughMoran]

491. If I don't, I should be banned from DU

People who don't realize this are ass holes.

[LibraLiz1973]

492. Even if I'm kicking and screaming in the booth because I dislike the candidate

I'm voting Dem.

I would never just NOT vote

[yardwork]

493. Me.

[FloridaJudy]

495. Me as well

Will: have you considered doing this as a poll? It would be easier to see the big picture that way.

:kick:

[2Design]

496. yes - no matter who it is - the alternative is death to god, people, and humanity

not crazy about who the media loves - but maybe I will be surprised and get my choice

Not lot of choices - only one and he is not the media darling

who ever wins will have a hell of time getting us out of the complete destruction of middle class, constitution or anything

[susanr516]

497. absolutely nt

[toughboy]

498. Yes. Even if its Edwards or Obama.

That's for the stinky Hillary bashers on this board. Any Democrat at least has more integrity than any Republican. Is Fred Thompson whacked out of his mind or what?

[jillan]

Without a doubt.

[txwhitedove]

499. Of course!

[Colorado Progressive]

500. Yup! nt

[farmbo]

501. You guessed ' er Chester...I'll support a potted plant Dem over Rudi

eom

[cobalt1999]

502. I'd be a republican enabler if I didn't support the dem nominee

Of course I'll support the nominee.

[NoGodsNoMasters]

504. I know it's terribly cynical...

And i have reservations about it, but theres' too much to lose here.

[Hamlette]

505. yes sir

[onehandle]

506. Yes, of course. Check out this poll I posted ----->

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3544899

[napi21]

509. YES! And I'm very happy to see this kind of response to your question!

Primaries are for chosing who YOU prefer, but the General is for kicking the Pubs OUT!

[Name removed]

514. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Miss Chybil]

510. Can't imagine voting for anybody else! nt

[catrose]

511. Even if I have to hold my nose

even if it's my cat, who's bound to be an improvement

[XemaSab]

513. Count me in

Whoever it is.

[Fresh_Start]

515. and miss all the fun and excitement of a third party vote....

and having to wait for the courts to decide..hummmmm....


Hell Yes, I'm voting for the Democratic candidate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RiverStone]

516. Yes, though my level of enthusiasm..

In making that vote will vary greatly depending on who it is.

Gore/Kucinich/Clark/Obama = HUGE enthusiasm....

Hillary = hold my nose


But yea, I'm 100% committed to the DEM ticket regardless of my disappointment in the leadership.

BTW, great question!

[dgibby]

517. antichrist

I would vote for the antichrist if he was the dem nominee. Anything would be better than the repubs!!!

[SayWhatYo]

518. I read a website that said Obama was the anti-christ..

heh, it was actually funny in a weird way... I always wondered if these people actually believe shit like that, or if they do it for the laughs.

[SayWhatYo]

521. ....

... oops...

[Lindsey]

530. Without question-NO MATTER who it is as long as they are a Dem. n/t

[GMFORD]

520. All dem all the way

Until not one repug left in government. Until the mention of GOP has a new generation saying 'Huh? Never heard of them.'

I wouldn't trust a repug to mow my lawn let alone hold a public office.

[Silver Gaia]

522. Yes. Even if it isn't the nominee of my choice.

There IS no other way, IMO.

[SayWhatYo]

524. nahh, I'm going republican...

:hide:




Kidding...of course... More than ever I think it's important that people actually unite to get someone in there who is at least some what decent. Going for the toy candidate that doesn't have a chance isn't worth it at this time.

[Rex]

525. I think it is great that some people here don't want to.

And will say it and don't get banned. Free speech and all that. Me, yeah I will vote for whoever the Dem is, anything else is a waste of time.

Unless someone can show me a viable third party that can actually beat both established parties.

Not holding my breath...

[Iwillnevergiveup]

526. Present and accounted for

But I hope with a Gornormous smile on my face.

:hi:

[jackster]

527. no matter who it is...

they will have my vote and my money

[Turner Ashby]

538. I'm not sure.

If it is Hillary, and she just voted for the K/L resolution, she sounds just as hawkish as GWB/Cheney. If we are in the middle of a 3rd front in the GWOT, then the vacant seats on the Supreme Court would be irrelevant. The mindset of the American public, and by extension the Court, would not be all warm and cuddly toward civil rights. So, her vote and apparent ease at going to war, impacts the Supreme Court and its rulings, and its institutional tendency to allow the Executive to run the show during wartime. The Supreme Court would conceivably be just as conservative about civil rights regardless of who was appointed, liberal or conservative.

As far as a woman's right to choose, the right to privacy is the basic underlying right and that probably won't be taken away as other cases depend on the right to privacy. What will happen (and may happen regardless with the advent of medical improvements) is the return of such decisions to the states.

[NancyG]

528. Of course. nt

[Boxerfan]

529. Absolutely!

Never been a follower and thats a issue as that describes most Dem's...And these elections are nothing more than popularity contests.
Thanks fer askin Will.

[NastyDiaper]

531. %90 chance yes. nt

[grasswire]

532. proud to be a Democrat!

I may have to hold my nose. But I'll be true to the righteous history of the Democratic Party -- the party of civil rights, civil liberties, equal pay, equality under the law, universal health care, help for seniors, strong education policy, clean air, old trees, energy independence, restoration of the Constitution, and so much more.

Proud to make that vote, Will Pitt!

[yowzayowzayowza]

533. Present.

[PurgedVoter]

534. No question about it,

I would be really happy if it were Gore though.

[Counciltucky]

536. Marking the donkey. n/t

[sojourner]

537. dem gets my vote no matter who it is............

[DUlover2909]

539. of course, yes

Unless something crazy happens, like Rush Limbaugh gets the nomination somehow.:silly:

[Kool Kitty]

540. Absolutely, yes I am.

Sometimes the party seems a little lost and muddled, but it's heart is good and in the right place. But I am a Democrat and the candidate (whoever it turns out to be) will get my vote.

[InkAddict]

541. Count on it! n/t

[eggplant]

542. Of course!

I would be happy to irrevokably cast my vote today for whoever is the Dem nominee in the '08 presidential election.

[populistdriven]

543. affirmative

[JohnnyRingo]

544. Roger That

[qnr]

547. Posting as requested n/t

[blueDachi]

548. Sign me up...

But then I'd vote for a sack of putty before I'd vote for a Repug again...

[Greylyn58]

550. Yes, but only because I could never vote for a Repug

I have to believe even though I dislike Hillary's stand on most things, if she grabs the nomination, she's not looney tunes like the Shrub.

[krkaufman]

551. The system offers no other choice.

(Unless Gore runs as a Republican.)

[Mythsaje]

552. I will...

Of course, I might have to stand outside and wack myself in the side of the head with a large mallet for a few minutes if I have to vote for Hillary to induce the kind of brain damage necessary to feel okay with that, but I will do what needs to be done.

[frog92969]

553. maybe not

There are a few neo-con war mongering Dems (you know who they are) who I don't think I could force myself to vote for.
With a bigger Dem majority in Congress, and the stupidity that seems to find it's way there, it might be better to NOT have the wolf in sheep's clothing.

Saying that, I would never vote Rethuglicon, maybe a write in.

[Mark E. Smith]

554. Yep

No reason to change now.

[The Doctor.]

556. Absolutely.

[MissMarple]

558. Amen. n/t

[LaurenG]

559. I will either vote for the Dem nominee or not vote at all

There is only one democrat I refuse to vote for, if that candidate wins I'll refrain from casting my vote at all.

Sometimes one has to hold their nose and sometimes one has to stand on their own principles and refuse to go along.

:hi: :kick:

[urbuddha]

560. Go Dennis !

DENNIS KUCINICH... If only there were a way !

We have a fairly organized Green Party here in San Francisco that
is doing better on local elections. I may support some of their
candidates in the city elections...otherwise it's Democrats all the way !

[krj44]

562. there is no other

choice if we want to save our country.

[wake.up.america]

563. I would if I could, but I can't so I won't. Schade

[DLnyc]

564. Don't have time to read 546 posts, though I think I got the general gist

Provided I'm still alive then and not incarcerated, I will brave ID checks, BW black ops, nefarious SOS's and cetera to try to sneak a vote past Diebold, Sequoia ES&S and GeneralBullshit to support the Dem Banner!

(Unless a third party, who agrees to fold up and throw votes to the Dems if it looks like they might help the Thugs, happens to look like they will get Dennis Kucinich elected)

[dipsydoodle]

565. Not allowed to do so

I'm English.........lol. However, as you said, any repsonse kicks this so happy to oblige.

[Iris]

567. of course.

(I will).

[ClintonTyree]

568. Yep....

any of the Democratic candidates is far superior to the slate of war hungry hacks the Republicans have to offer.

[caseycoon]

569. I will vote for the nominee even if I have to grit my teeth to do it n/t

[dobegrrrl]

570. voting for the Dem

wish it were Kucinich........:dem:

[MADem]

571. Not just vote, but GOTV as well. NT

[golddigger]

572. You damn right i am!

I hope the repuke party dries up and blows away.

Yes, I know I have a low post count. But I've been lurking here since the beginning of 2002.

In fact, I spend at least 8 hrs a day on DU. I had a stroke that left me partially paralyzed. Du has got me through some bad times. So I haven't posted much because of my bad grammar due to the stroke. I didn't have internet for a week one time and went through Du withdrawals.

But I'm getting better thanks to DU keeping my brain active. Even though sometimes some posts make my head hurt...lol

Matter of fact, I get all my information from DU, you guys seem 3yrs. ahead of the MSM.

My friends and family, whom I email all important info I get from DU are amazed how much I know. Thanks to the info from Du I've turned most of my family and friends from repukes to democrats.

Like I said I've been on Du for a long time and know how it gets during election time. But please think, do you really want a repuke back in the White House. Please I'm begging you, vote for whoever the democratic nominee is for the sake of our country. Thanks DU...John

[reggie the dog]

574. yeah

Seeing as the alternative is the Republicans I will vote Democrat even if they nominate a centrist. I would like them to nominate someone on the left though, I think it is the right moment and that a progressive leftist president could win, but if all I can get is a centrist again, well that's not as bad as the right wing.

If Clinton gets the nomination perhaps she could choose someone on the left as VP to appease the left wing of the Democratic party........that would be a nice consession for us leftist folks.

[emanymton]

580. Welcome To DU ... I Will Not Be Appeased!

.
Maybe it was a poor choice of words, but do not expect to try to appease anyone. Take charge and lead!
.

[emanymton]

576. Any Body Not A GOP Does Not Necessarily Mean 'D'

.
Cut my arm off before I vote for a creature with a 'R' next to their name. But..!

I does matter for whom I vote. USA must get back to being honest and open. I question if some candidates will be open and honest. Absolutely will not vote for GOP-Lite candidates with a 'D' next to their name.

The GOP may lose big time. Do not think for a 'NY second' that this means the Democratic Party automatically wins.
.

[rpannier]

577. As long as it's not hell miller I'm voting Dem.

As we learned from 2000 & 2004...with every republikkan elected we get the bonus of people like rummy, elmer fudd, john roberts, alito, etc.

[Kermitt Gribble]

578. No question...

maybe a little disappointed, but will vote dem either way.

[and-justice-for-all]

579. Yes. No matter who, nt

[lamp_shade]

581. Start another thread, Will

Title it "Do me a favor and post here if you'll be holding your nose while voting for the Dem nominee no matter who it is".

[droidamus2]

582. No doubt about it

4 to 8 more years of Republican control would be disastrous for this country. Since we have no viable third parties at this time a vote for that type of candidate just enables the Republicans. I will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who he or she may be.

[Perry Logan]

583. Yo. The people who say they won't vote Democratic if so-and-so is nominated are probably lying.

[cachukis]

584. Yes

[WatchWhatISay]

586. Never have voted for a Republican

Can't imagine why i would start now

[riona]

587. The Dem nominee has my vote

And, let me take this opportunity to insult the MSM :spank:

[annabanana]

588. Yes - for SCOTUS' sake. . . n/t

[laylah]

589. Present and accounted for! n/t

[DarkTirade]

590. Not much of a choice there.

It's either a D canidate who I might disagree with on some, or even several issues... or the alternative, which will let this country continue down the path it's been going the last 7 years and condemn the next generation to an even bigger mess to try and clean up, while simultaniously taking away more of the resources they'll need to do so.

[southern_belle]

592. I will vote for the democratic nominee

no matter who it is. :patriot: :hi:

[Simeon Salus]

594. I'm voting for the Democratic nominee

Come hell or high water.

[phylny]

595. Here!

I don't know who I'm voting for in a primary, but I do know that no matter which Democrat wins the primary, I will vote for him or her in the national election.

[stlsaxman]

596. Reluctantly, yes

[Amonester]

597. My sister will.

If she still lives in the U.S. by then...

OTOH, my nephew and my nieces will.

They're not planning to move out (yet).


http://www.dennis4president.com/

[cmd]

598. Yellow dog - all the way n/t

[madrchsod]

599. three votes for the democratic canidate from my home

[Loki]

600. Plain and simple.....yes.

[tekisui]

602. Yes, without question.

[rambler_american]

603. A no brainer

Unless it were Joe Lieberman.

[Felinity]

605. I'm in Texas

Voting straight democratic is a sometimes empty ritual, but I vote, Democratic.

[trof]

606. Like there's another choice? I am.

[Festivito]

607. Yes, UNLESS running a PubliCON DINO.

But, I don't think Lieberman can get the nomination any more.

[Frisbee]

608. I seriously doubt...

...that I'll ever be able to bring myself to vote for a republican under any circumstances after what they have put this country through. Oh sure, there may be a democrat that comes along that I can't bring myself to vote for for whatever reason, but that will in all likelihood just lead to a skipped vote on my ballot. However, despite my issues with some of the Dem's currently seeking the nomination, ANY of them is a vastly better option than even the best of the republicans running. So, to answer your question, yes, I will be voting for the democratic candidate, whoever that may be.

[sufrommich]

609. I'll be voting straight "D", no matter who our candidate is,

and counting the days till the stench from the White House blows away.

[bluerum]

610. 99.99% on it. I reserve that last .01% in case something really unhinged

happens.

Like Lieberman etc.

[Nimrod2005]

611. Present

[vademocrat]

612. Of course - always have, always will

Sometimes I vote FOR a candidate and sometimes I vote AGAINST a candidate but I always vote Democratic!

If my favorite primary democrat doesn't make it to the general election, I may be voting more to stop another rethuglican from victory but as long as I'm still drawing breath I'll vote and vote Democratic -

[rAVES]

613. Isnt this the mindset that has gotten the states into the trouble it is in?

2 horse races suck.

[deutsey]

614. Clothespin candidates

As always, I go into the voting booth with an imaginary clothespin on my nose so I can get beyond the stench and press the buttons for the Dem candidates.

[caraher]

615. 99% sure

100% sure I won't vote for a Republican!

[connecticut yankee]

616. Absolutely

I may not be happy with the nominee, but whomever it is, it will be far better than the alternative.

[n2doc]

617. yep. Even the worst dem is better than the alternative. n/t

[skids]

618. If it will matter...

...not in a swing state.

[madame defarge]

619. Will do...

I always try to vote for the person I think will do the best job. Of course, that vote has been for a Democrat ever since my very first voting experience when I was "convinced" by my Republican father to vote for Nixon. Even old Dad would vote for a Democrat now if he were alive (or registered in Chicago...), in today's political climate.

[MethuenProgressive]

620. I'm a Democrat - of COURSE I'll vote for the Democrat in 08

I would NEVER throw my vote away.

[OKNancy]

621. Yes, I will vote for the Democrat no matter who it is and

I expect that the Democrat will win despite the hand-wringers here.
DU folks who will sit out are a drop in the bucket compared to swing voters
who will vote Democratic this time.

[anniebelle]

622. As long as I'm breathing. n/t

[GTurck]

623. Voting for a Democrat

But doing so with caveats. Currently a registered Democrat and precinct election judge so voting Repub is out of the question but am very very leery of getting GOP lite for a candidate. Hearing a lot about how the corporations are pushing for the "appropriate" Democratic candidate.
We need a trustworthy voice to sort the OK to the best.

[yellowdogintexas]

626. DAMN STRAIGHT I AM! I keep telling you, our worst possible outcome is

100 X better than the "best" they can offer us. No freaking way would I vote any other way.

I love JOhn Edwards, hope he is our nominee. Would I jump to Al Gore if he even let a hair fall in the direction of seeking the nomination? YOU BET?

Will I vote for Hilary or Obama if either of them gets the nod. YOU BET YOUR LIFE I WILL.


Thanks Will, this will be a fun thread to watch.

[Jaap]

627. I'm sure..

..the whole world thanks you all! I certainly do!

But first: you need to educate those republicans, start learning them how to count! :-)

[tblue37]

629. I will, but I will also be very pissed if our nominee is someone who will

make it harder to win the general, or someone who will not push for our liberal ideals, because they are too fond of corporate money and goals.

None of our candidates are anywhere near as bad as the Republican candidates, and no matter what, no Dem candiddate would nominate Corpus Dei stooges or unitary president stooges. One more SC nominee from a repub president, and we are totally screwed for the next generation. We are already nearly that screwed as it is. An entire generation's worth of citizens' rights have been undermined by this court's powerful new Right Wing majority. If for no other reason, the next president ABSOLUTELY MUST NOT BE A REPUBLICAN!

I can't understand why some others can't understand that. Quite apart from all the other damage BushCo has done, the fact that he put Roberts and Alito on the Court is soemthing people need to consider., The next president will nominate at least 2 SC justices--perhaps 3!

And we obviously can't trust our Dems in the Senate--even if they are in the majority--to resist any nomination by a RW repub president. They let Alito and Roberts through without even a speed bump!

[Divine Discontent]

630. heck, might as well put up a poll, too!

but anyhow, yeah, I'll be voting for the dem candidate no matter who he is.

[Joanne98]

631. Me

[bigtree]

632. I think this thread's made a statement

. . . a reassuring one for me. I'm in the right place.

[SnowCritter]

633. Normally I wouldn't even consider the idea

but the Republican Party has reached a level of repugnance that I can't stomach (and I've a pretty strong stomach). Their platform is laced with lies and deceit and their candidates are totally bereft of any moral character.

[Jackpine Radical]

635. I suppose, after kicking, screaming, refusing to donate, and pissing my pants

out of sheer spite, I'll go into that booth and vote for her. And then I'll do whatever I can to make her as uncomfortable as possible. Not that I have any particular delusions of my own significance in the scheme of things.

[Tracyjo]

636. Yes

[Amaya]

638. yep

nt

[reality based]

639. Absolutely!

Can we get a big D next to our name? Wait I thought that anyone posting on this site would be voting Democratic especially for President. If otherwise I expect an honorable resignation.

[irish.lambchop]

640. Absolutely,

but am not happy about it.

[pattmarty]

641. Live in Ar. Kucinich in primary, WHOEVER the Dem is in the election.

[HuckleB]

643. I'm in for that.

[Flying Dream Blues]

644. Yep, absolutely. nt

[deepthought42]

645. Yes. I could not vote, but

that's not an option. I could vote for the other party, but seriously, that is not even remotely possible. So yes. :)

[julialnyc]

646. I will vote Dem

But I really hope I still get a chance to vote for my candidate in the primaries. In 2004 the election was already decided before it made it to me. Even if my candidate doesn't win, I would just love the opportunity to vote for someone I really loved as a candidate. If my candidate doesn't win will certainly vote for the the least dangerous option.

[recovering democrat]

647. Yes

Enthusiastically. Supporting OUR Democratic candidates without question, and with money. It is just too important this time.

[papau]

648. Will - are you trying for longest threads awards? - say 100,000 replies? In any case count me as in

-any "D" - :-)

[unsavedtrash]

649. yellow dog n/t

[specimenfred1984]

650. kick

Yes

[Th1onein]

651. Here.

Present and accounted for.

[graywarrior]

652. Much as I don't trust one of them as far as I can spit, I'll still vote dem

no matter what.

[Inkyfuzzbottom]

653. Yes

as I always have, I will vote for the Dem nominee no matter who it is.

[Maryland Liberal]

654. I will vote for the DEM nominee - with one exception

EXCEPT if it is Hillary - If it is Hillary - I will not cast a vote for President. That wont stop me from voting for other DEM canidates though (lower offices)

[GOPGoindown]

655. Yup, even

Hillary.

[xynthee]

656. Probably. n/t

[bottomofthehill]

657. The Democrat, its easy

There is no one on the R side that I agree with an mos of the issues. I agree with all of the Democrats on MOST of the issues, therefore the choice is easy,
whoever the DEMOCRAT is. NO STUPID PROTEST VOTES FOR PEOPLE WITH NO CHANCE OF WINNING GIVING THE RACE TO ANOTHER REPUBLICAN

[A-Long-Little-Doggie]

659. I will only vote Democratic.

Our worst politicians are infinitely better than their best.

[TacticalPeek]

660. I don't see how this could even be a question at this site.

Just think of six hundred Florida 2000 voters who were too pure to vote for Al Gore.

:kick:

[creeksneakers2]

661. I'll happily vote for any one of them

They are all great candidates and any of them would make a great president.

[baldguy]

662. Here

Even the worst Dem candidate is better than the best GOP candidate.

[Justyce]

663. Absolutely!

[IndianaJones]

664. Right here. Go Yanks. nt.

[ananda]

666. I will vote, but I'm in Texas..

.. where my liberal vote and views count for nothing
except a presence.

[Bonobo]

667. Wow! 667 posts! And think of the number of people you've silenced! Impressive!

[sufrommich]

674. How has anyone been silenced?nt

[Bonobo]

675. Use your empathic ability and try to imagine.

Or is that empathetic?

[sufrommich]

681. Sorry,I don't get what you're saying.

Someone posts a thread on a Democratic board asking if we're going to vote for the Democratic candidate and you seem to be suggesting that it has cast some gloomy silencing spell here. Who's been silenced? I suggest that no one has,those who choose not to answer the question,don't have to post in this thread, it's not mandatory.

[liberalhistorian]

668. Almost a sure thing.

If the nominees are Lyndon LaRouche v. Ron Paul I might take another look.

Or I suppose Joe Lieberman v. Ron Paul

[Jim Lane]

669. Count me in (n/t)

[southtpa]

670. Yellow dog

I wouldn't vote Republican if there was a gun to my head

[UrbScotty]

671. H311 Y34H!

[rodeodance]

672. That is a no brainer-of course!

[thetaoofterri]

673. Hell Yeah!

No matter who it is...

[localroger]

676. Count me in

Even if I have to hold my nose to do it, and even though it might not matter much in Red Louisiana, I will be there to tap the D.

[Stump]

677. I've always voted Republican...

And I'm proud to say I came to my senses and will never do it again. I'm that guy that people talk about who finally woke up and saw the hypocrisy. Count me in. K&R

[Raffi Ella]

682. Hi

... and welcome to All the Newer Members ~





And Will,Thanks for the thread,it's greatly appreciated my friend.Does a lot of good for the overall atmosphere here in G.D.


:bluebox:

[JNelson6563]

679. There's no question about my vote

it goes to the Dem, whoever it may be.

As to my efforts outside of voting, that is yet to be determined.

Julie

[On the Road]

680. It Will More Than Cowardice and Enabling Bush

for me to withhold my vote from the Democratic nominee.

[Pachamama]

683. Will, I'm feeling so disillusioned right now about the Dem party, I said several times this week

that if the nominee is Hillary then I will not vote for her and vote say for an independent candidate. And then some other DUers pointed out about what is at stake - the Supreme Court and all our other courts. So, even though I am so disheartened and upset at the continueing support for this illegal war, for the funding of it, for so many other things, and in the case of Hillary and others about the stance on Iran, I will vote for the nominee, even if I'm holding my nose. But it won't be a vote for them per se - it will be a vote for our future SCOTUS and the prayer and hope that we can stop all the bleeding and hemmorraging our country and Constitution are doing. But things have got to change. I'm tired of a system in which we only have 2 parties, that often act as one and to have to vote holding my nose. I'm tired of it.

:hi:

[YankeyMCC]

684. Yes

[pingzing58]

685. I always vote for the Dem candidate because I vote my conscience.

[Irishonly]

687. Yes

I learned my lesson when I campaigned and voted for Anderson and I still feel badly about it. I will vote for my candidate at the primary level even if it means using the option of write in. After that I will do what I can for our nominee. The worst of them is a million times better than any repuke.

[bigbrother05]

688. k&r, times 2

[EnKrypt]

689. Voting for the Dem

Hrmmm... Vote for a Democrat or vote for a war-mongering sexual pervert?

Hrmmm.... <tap><tap><tap>

I'll pick...Hrmm... It's such a tough decision!!!

XOXOXO

EnK

[Bryn]

690. I will vote democratic no matter who nom is.

I am not sitting on my hands and let a repuke win and give us 4 more years of misery.

[whistle]

691. Repost this in 30 days and see what the repsonses are like

:hide: :yoiks:

[Beelzebud]

692. Isn't it a bit dangerous to vote for the Democrat, "no matter who it is"?

Isn't that type of blind loyalty what got us in this mess with the Republicans?

[Fading Captain]

742. Bingo. Will Pitt and the others

Need to wake the fuck up and stop with this nonsense

[Lady President]

693. Of course!

I know that I'm in the minority, but I am impressed with all the Dem. candidates. I may have my favorite, but I'll happily volunteer and vote for any of them.

Personally, I think the "I'll never vote for Candidate XYZ" is just pre-primary posturing. Compared to the Republican candidates, all of our options are fabulous!

[drm604]

694. I will vote for the Dem candidate. n/t

[moblsv]

696. Not a single republican worthy of running for dog catcher

My last choice in current Democratic candidates is far above my first choice in current Republican candidates. So, yes! And voting a third party is a tacit vote against the only viable alternative in our two party system, a Democrat.

I can almost guarantee that my vote next November will be an across the board (D) for all offices.

[ejbr]

697. No matter who...

let's just hope it makes a difference.

[Jawja]

698. Count me in, Will.

I will financially support and vote for the Dem nominee, no matter who it is.

[Danger Mouse]

699. I will vote for the Dem nominee even if it's Hillary.

But, ideally, it would be someone I LIKE.

[sasquatch]

701. You bet yer sweet ass I am

[shaniqua6392]

702. Without a doubt.

I will vote for the Dem no matter who it is.

[gtar100]

704. Absolutely.

Our only hope is to *not* have a republican ***ever again*** in the White House.

There are no guarantees with a democratic nominee, but at least there's the possibility of change.

[Blue Fire]

705. Yes.

The alternative has already proven too costly.

[NW_BEAST]

706. YO

Here, present. Prefer Edwards, Obama, or Kucinitch...but fuck it, I AINT goin with the other guy.

[w4rma]

707. Without a doubt. (nt)

[Gregorian]

708. Yeah (said with head down)

Two days ago I made up my mind America could stuff itself. If they're so stupid that we ended up here, I didn't care enough to vote for someone I don't want. There is a hell of a lot more wrong with this place than just politics. But I'm probably here for life. So I might as well take the best shot.

Not good times.

[southerncrone]

710. Yes, but.....

I hope it isn't Hillary.

[Auggie]

711. Yeah. Probably reluctantly too.

[NancyG]

713. Are the percentages being tabulated?

SEEMS 99% yes. Which is a good sign. If so many of this group are sticking with the candidate, it's hopeful for next November.

[Orsino]

715. Almost certainly.

No matter how GOP-lite the Dem nominee is or pretends to be, given the current field I can confidently say that any Dem beats any Republican. That choice may be a lousy one, but it's a no-brainer.

[rox63]

716. I'll gladly vote for the Dem nominee

Even if it's someone I'm not fond of.

[Crunchy Frog]

717. Yes, I will. However...

If the party fucks it up in '08, I make NO guarantees about any future elections. This is the Dems last chance, as far as I'm concerned.

[Lost-in-FL]

719. I don't care who gets it... I am voting DEM

nuff said

[wryter2000]

720. Count me in

I couldn't have said that in 2004 because of Lieberman. And man, was I right. This year, I could vote for any of them.

[Eric J in MN]

721. I will. NT

NT

[featherman]

722. absolutely

[OzarkDem]

723. Proving, once again

that the leaders of our party enjoy a level of loyalty from their grassroots that they have not earned and do not deserve.

[NotGivingUp]

725. No, I'm not a brainwashed idiot who votes for a person because

they call themselves a democrat. WillPitt, why don't YOU try being at least marginally helpful at something and stop your propagandist bullshit of promoting party before what really counts.

[Raffi Ella]

726. What he said is Propaganda...?

This is the Democratic Underground last time I checked.



Do you have a viable alternative in our two party reality?I'm a Democrat - Not a Libral,not a leftist not a socialist or a populist or a green but a DEMOCRAT.

Two Party system:I'm voting! and that vote sure as hell won't go to a Republican nor will I allow a non vote to enable their chances of winning.

I personally think our candidates are the cream of the crop,especially Biden - Vote BIDEN y'all!!- but I'd vote for ANY of them that got the nomination.That makes me an idiot?I think not.I live in reality thank you very much.

[Lost-in-FL]

738. Let's vote our conscience again, let's vote for Nader...

and see how that works this time around. :sarcasm:

[mantis49]

727. Absolutely.

Oh, and I'm glad you're back Will.

[Rob H.]

728. I will

I live in a red state, so the Democrats here need all the votes they can get.

[fujiyama]

729. I will

but that doesn't mean I'll do so enthusiastically...or do anything beyond the absolutely bare minimum of dragging my ass to the polls (or sending an absentee ballot by mail).

[Lerkfish]

733. loyalty oaths are sooooo last century.

:)

[Forkboy]

734. Boy, it sure is good to have you back....

I won't vote for Hillary.You think she'll carry Mass without my vote?

So here's your kick, and a hearty "fuck you" to go with it.

Thanks.

[tavalon]

735. Yes, but

I will have less anoxia if Gore is the one.

[Momgonepostal]

737. Almost certainly

I can't think of a plausible scenario that would cause me to vote Republican. And I don't do third parties, either.

[Fading Captain]

740. I will NEVER vote for someone simply because of their party affiliation

Doing so is stupid and irresponsible.

[mwb970]

753. Would you vote AGAINST someone for this reason?

Is it "stupid and irresponsible" to vote against a candidate that you feel represents a direct threat to America itself? Such candidates are almost always Republicans.

[Fading Captain]

754. I never vote "against" anyone

As far as I know, there is no way to "vote against" anyone on a ballot.

You vote for the candidate that best represents your view.

Personally, I don't see myself ever voting for a Republican (well, actually, I might, if I lived in a republican-dominated area, I could actuall see myself voting for a republican local candidate in a township election, or something). But no, I do not see it. At least not in a state or national election.

But I won't say never. Because there are some pretty disgusting characters in the democratic Party, too.

The Republicans make me ill because I detest their principles.

The Democrats make me ill because, though I share many principles, they sell them out for power.

[Virginia Dare]

757. I vote "against" people all the time...

I voted "against" George Bush in 2000. I did it again in 2004. Are you saying that neither Gore nor Kerry would have better represented my view?

In fact, this year, I just may vote in the repub primary in my state just so I can vote "against" somebody. I sure as hell wish I'd have voted "against" George Bush back in the 2000 primaries. I wish I would have voted "against" that asshole at every opportunity that arose.

I can honestly say there is nobody in the Democratic party who disgusts me even half as much as the average repub.

[seabeyond]

741. of course. i dont see a single repug better than the WHOLE dem field

if all the dems are better choice than any of the repugs, of course i am going to vote dem

[More Than A Feeling]

743. I want to see how the nominee acts in the general election before

I decide whether or not I will vote for them. If they cower before beltway elitism, obviously my incentive to vote for them will be lessened.

[lpbk2713]

744. That's me alright.

I registered to vote about forty years ago. And I have always voted for the Dem candidate for President. Governor too.

[machka]

746. *raises hand*

With varying amounts of enthusiasm in some cases, certainly; but whomever it is, I will vote for the Democratic nominee.

[Nye Bevan]

747. I'm very happy to see all the replies and recs for this thread

after all the crap I've been reading here these last few days from the self-important imbeciles who would refuse to vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination. Thanks to all for the sanity in this thread.

[girlphoenix]

748. Absolutely, I will

This yellow dog cannot in god conscience vote for anything other than a Dem.

[ulysses]

749. wank, wank.

Sorry, Will, but a columnist who likes to play both sides doesn't get to decide my political worth. :)

[DemReadingDU]

750. Yes

[mwb970]

751. Duh!

I will never, ever vote for a Republican for anything. The way they all march in lockstep, even a decent R (yes, they exist) will get co-opted and become part of the Fascist Machine that this lost, misguided party has become.

[mindfulNJ]

752. Voting D here

I've never voted for an R and never will.

[iamthebandfanman]

759. i can gaurentee no votes for republicans

and no more ;)

ill wait and make my only voting democrat decision when we get closer the general election and most of the cards of been delt...

gotsta know when to hold'em and know whensta fold'em ;)

[deaniac21]

760. Of course I'll vote for Hillary! It's not even gonna be close.