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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:57 PM
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A shout out to fellow Democrats, re: Health Care
Our movement for universal access to health care for each and every American remains a cornerstone of the Democratic agenda.

It won't happen in one fell swoop.

Enactment of Social Security and Medicare, in their day, were hotly contested, compromised at times, and eventually enacted into law as a bedrock of stability for millions of Americans.

We need to build on that legacy.

The broad support from Congress for the SCHIP program is one step.

Yet, there is more to be done.

Health care funding at the federal level, and to an extent the state level, remains a political process. Wresting access to care and reimbursement from middlemen is a function of politics, as well.

All of our national candidates have addressed the issue. All are worth note. All are worth debate. And all are an improvement to the current status quo.

Sometimes it is better to prove the politician right, than prove him wrong. I think this is one of those times.

We must move forward on health care reform. If it has to be incremental, so be it. We'll build on that.

Thanks all.
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PADemD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:58 PM
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1. Medicare needs to be changed to cover 100%. Why should
retired seniors have to purchase supplemental insurance?
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:20 PM
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2. Great point (n/t)
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:46 AM
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7. it's not just for retired seniors, either...
disabled people in what would otherwise be the prime of life are covered as well- and wethey don't always have a lifetime of savings and investment to fall back on. (and they don't let us in aarp , either)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:25 PM
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3. Are you forgetting about vetochildrensshitler?
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:34 PM
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4. Das veto von Krankenversicherung der Kinder ist politischer Selbstmord.
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 11:36 PM by pinto
the veto of children's health care is political suicide.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:07 AM
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5. He's only been politically castrated about 65 fucking times. Not stopping the runaway train.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:37 AM
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6. Good point. Yet it's not unstoppable. Their reach exceeds their grasp.
It has always been that way.

I was speaking to a friend of my age (55) tonight and we agreed. How terrible to see this again:

A pointless, deadly military operation.

An insulated Presidency, cut off from any sense of objective reality, playing a relentless domestic propaganda campaign to hold up the charade.

A Congress at loggerheads to how best address the issue.

And an increasingly volatile electorate, wanting immediate resolution or total denial...

Our final take on this brief run through - Hold on, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:51 AM
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8. Wheels turn to slowly. We are in big trouble while they fuck around with ads in a paper.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 01:17 AM
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9. In all reality, ads in a paper mean little. They'll be forgotten in a couple of more weeks.
What lasts, and what takes time, are those things that seem to grind exceedingly slow yet fine.

None of our national standards have come quickly. From the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution, universal suffrage, Social Security, the Civil Rights Act, Medicare, et al - they all took some time.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:42 AM
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10. Ack, time.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 12:07 PM
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11. Is my thinking on the right track? Universal HC would improve healthcare
in rural areas?

I grew up with insulin-dependent diabetes and always in small towns.

While my local docs had their hearts in the right place, they really weren't the best for treating my condition and we frequently would go to larger towns for me medical care, although even these were timy burgs for the most part.

I never saw an endocrinologist until I was 15 years old and my hormones went haywire.

I'm thinking that UHC would make it easier for rural people to get health care and that this could be a selling point. What do others think?
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