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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:43 PM
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Furious. It is not a "sex" tape, it is a "rape" tape.
I just caught a minute of Nancy Grace, and it is sick to refer to a video of a child being raped (or anyone being raped) as a "sex" tape.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:45 PM
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1. "criminal sex acts" = rape
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:04 PM
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12. Raping a child should NEVER be referred to as "sex" - ever.
People know that rape is a sex crime - calling it "sex" is disrespectful and inaccurate.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:45 PM
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2. Try not to let idiots upset you. n/t
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:45 PM
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3. Good point.
It's also sick to exploit it for media ratings
or distraction purposes.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:46 PM
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4. Hear Hear, Ma'am!
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:49 PM
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5. K&R. That made me sick too.
And unfortunately, it's not just Nancy. Most of them are referring to it that way.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:50 PM
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6. Yes it is rape. Nancy Grace is always choosing
to sensationalize the strangest things, yet underplays this?

She's a mess no matter what angle she approaches a story.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:54 PM
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7. And Nancy Grace is a woman. If anything, I'd expect MORE sensitivity from her ...
...than that.

What a CONFUSED woman she is.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:55 PM
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8. Did you actually watch her show?
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 09:55 PM by lizzy
Regularly, I mean?
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:28 PM
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20. I've seen it twice...and that was more than I could stomach...
..Yea, you're right - "sensitivity" - WRONG word.

That's like using George bu$h and "compassion" in the same sentence isn't it?

Mea Culpa is all I can say.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:58 PM
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10. HOLY SHIT!! That is the funniest thing I have heard all night. And I have had some funny
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 10:00 PM by renie408
conversations tonight.

Nancy Grace and sensitivity in the same sentence....Good one!!


(and even if it isn't exactly the same sentence, just mentioning Nancy Grace and sensitivity on the same PAGE would be ironic!)
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:01 PM
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11. Surely you don't mean to infer that the flaring nostrils of death lack sensitivity.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:25 PM
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17. You're right.
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:56 PM
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9. Nancy Grace
= major SEX ratings go-getter
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:10 PM
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13. Exactly. That's like calling a bank robbery a cash withdrawal.
A monetary crime would never be referred to like that but it's not unusual for this type of thing to happen with a sexual crime.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:20 PM
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14. Exactly!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:22 PM
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15. Wow. That's an incredible new low even for her.
:nuke: :grr: :nuke:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:24 PM
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16. I agree with you 100%
She's not the only one that's said that. What was done to that child was nothing but unpardonable rape. Humanity at it's worst, rape.

Nothing less.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:26 PM
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18. Sheriff on CNN said she was 3 when it was being done to her
and videotaped.

3 years old!! :(
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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:29 PM
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22. And the child's mother wasn't aware
that her daughter was even being featured on worldwide TV this week!

She didn't know about the rapes.

How could you not see your 3-yr old child's bloody body??????? There is no way a child that size wouldn't have extensive physical damage.

The Nevada police seem to be believing the mother who sounds really really DENSE. I hope to hell this child still gets counseling.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:34 PM
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24. I have some questions.
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 10:56 PM by lizzy
First of all, how did this man get access to the child? And the mother never noticed anything was amiss? Was this child ever examined by a doctor for just regular physical check ups?

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FooFootheSnoo Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:48 PM
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26. While I was watching the press conference
I heard a couple of reporters mention the name Stephanie Allan (or something similar) and one stated that the abuse took place at this woman's house. I heard one reporter say "is it true the mother recognized the furniture as the furniture in Stephanie Allan's home?". It was very quick, the investigators seemed to get a little nervous when her name was mentioned. I'm wondering if maybe the Allan woman was a babysitter? maybe she was dating Stiles and that's how he got access to the little girl. The detectives said he was several tiers removed from the family (friend of a friend?). I don't know. That's pure speculation on my part. I hope her parents are telling the truth and they had no idea.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:51 PM
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28. So how does a parent, or any other nearby adults, not notice that
your child is being repeatedly raped?

That child looks so passive in those photographs that it's doubtful it only happened once. If he was raping her often enough to condition her to just passively accept it then where the hell were any other adults while this was happening? How does nobody notice this?

:wtf:
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:05 PM
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31. It's also been reported that the tape was made in 2005.
She is seven now.
If the tape was made in 2005, she would have been five, not three.
Doesn't add up, unless they were wrong as to when the tape was made.
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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:26 PM
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19. Nancy wasn't there tonight
You who are making comments about Nancy's show tonight might have picked up some footage of her speaking on a different date.

She was not on her show tonight (live). She hasn't been doing Fridays for awhile.

Someone else MC'd her show tonight.

I happen to like Nancy's show. At first I didn't much care for it, but she has her own passion. If you don't like it, don't watch, but please don't criticize her. You are sounding like Republicans. Nitpicking.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:32 PM
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23. I agree about Nancy
Used to avoid her like the plague...its just so over the top sometimes. But when i really want to know about something in depth, shes got the info.

She's sloooowly growing on me.

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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:56 PM
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30. Please Don't Criticize Nancy Because You Like Her?
Wow, guess I better check with you before I criticize anybody and be sure you don't like them. What kind of a statement was that? Are you going to check with us before you criticize anybody? I guess we should never criticize anybody including * because someone even likes him.
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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:28 PM
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21. rape/violation etymology
Edited on Fri Sep-28-07 10:33 PM by PDenton
"violation." That's one you don't hear alot of but is the for-real term. (in fact rape in Latin or Spanish is "violare" or "violar", hence the English term).

Rape actually means abducting somebody, usually women (Rape of the Sabine Women being a famous legend and piece of art). From the latin "rapio, rapere"- and the English term "Rapture" or raptor (a bird of prey) comes from this, literally rapere means "to be snatched up". Since the kid was abducted, that would fit too.

Sex actually means pertaining to a persons biological gender, only colloquially does it mean fornication or sexual intimacy ("sex act").
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:41 PM
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25. CBS was one of the first with that horrible headline.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:50 PM
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27. She's a clueless moron - the terminology makes the casual viewer draw an analogy between
this and the "One Night In Paris" or any number of Pamela Anderson videos out there...
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:54 PM
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29. Mission creep. They are trying to criminalize all sex acts......
Except between married child-bearing Christians of course. They do that with everything. Notice how "terra" has creeped into Narco and Eco..
It's always the same plan!!! Move the police state forward!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 11:41 PM
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32. Hmmm...Nancy Grace pissed someone off...what're the odds?
One again glad that I don't own a tv.
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