Do prisoners still take it out on inmates who are convicted of pedophilia?

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Just wondering if Chester's true punishment is yet to come.

[terisan]

1. I hear people say that all the time, but haven't seen any proof. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. Wouldn't We Have To Be Cons Or Peds To Answer?

But, yeah, I have know folks who have been in the hoosegow, and there certainly is a pecking order...

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3. Well, you could also work in criminal justice to know the answer.

[tkmorris]

4. Yes they do

Nothing has changed. A great many men in prison have children themselves, and they are troubled that they cannot protect them from inside. Pedophiles are at the bottom of the ladder in prisons, and will stay that way.

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5. The only true justice, comes when the perpetrator learns, first hand, the pain

he's inflicted on the victim.

[Bluerthanblue]

25. more often than not it is already something they are well versed

in-
especially male perpetrators.

Rape of a rapist is still rape- and should never be advocated or endorsed.

not aiming this comment at you, but rather at the concept of "yeah, he'll get his"- mentality.

If something is abhorrent, it doesn't change when the victim changes.

peace~

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27. You're right. Of course.

[billybob537]

6. Ask Jeffrey Dahmer

OOoopps I guess you can't couse he's been murdered by a fellow inmate. Ask father Geagan Oh yeah he's dead too!

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8. Someone was trying to make their bones with Dahmer.

'Cuz he was not as imposing a person as Hannibal Lector. Dahmer was more of a cowardly scavenger. Once he was exposed, he lost any advantage he had over people.

[BadgerLaw2010]

17. The guy who killed Dahmer and Anderson was already in for a brutal homicide.

Jesse Anderson, Dahmer, and Christopher Scarver were all on the same work detail. Anderson was a POS who knifed his wife to death and tried to fake that he and her had been attacked by "black thugs." Dahmer of course primarily killed blacks.

Scarver "happened" to be black, and also happened to be doing life plus more time for a vicious execution murder. He was also a big guy and known to be mentally unstable.

Scarver also "happened" to be in possession of a large metal weight bar, despite his significant violence issues.

Dahmer and Anderson got their heads pulverized. Dahmer died at the scene IIRC, Anderson lingered in a coma before the plug was pulled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Anderson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Scarver

Very widespread belief in Wisconsin that this was an extrajudicial execution.

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21. Would not surprise me.

[Ghost in the Machine]

7. Hopefully...

[ThomWV]

9. The level of violence in our prisons is a national disgrace - and your post hints at the problem

His "Real" punishment is the sentence handed down by the judge, it is not the rape and beatings he will be subject to that you seem to think will be his "Real" punishment. That's not the real punishment, its the result of our failure as a society to give a good god dam about how we treat those we incarcerate. And by the way, why in hell are we - this good and godly country - the one which has the largest portion of our population in jail?

Disgraceful, simply disgraceful.

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10. I'm willing to take the criticism.

You win on technical merits.

[PDenton]

12. I've got a feeling some of the wrath against

pedophiles is due perhaps to the questionable links in the minds of some cons to homophobia. There is a certain class of characters in society that equates all that kind of behavior as unmasculine (effeminate) and contemptable and doesn't mind using violence to act out their hatred. The mind of alot of cons is on establishing a pecking order and fearing weakness, and at the bottom are perverts and "fairies", and they either get owned (become somebody's slave in exchange for protection), harrassed, or killed if they can't protect themselves or the prison cannot protect and control prisoners. That's why alot of them are in jail in the first place, because they have a view of social relations that doesn't mesh with normal everyday people. Some of it may be retribution, too, but I think it just exposes the weakness in the criminal justice system in keeping prisoners safe.

"Prison justice", eg, killing other prisoners for retribution, is wrong. The fasces of justice aren't in their hands, that belongs to the state. A lynch mob is a lynch mob regardless.

No direct experience, I just took some criminology in college and it was a topic discussed.

Another related example, a few prisons (mostly in the South) use "pink" jumpsuits on prisoners who have engaged in rape on other prisoners or "deviant" sex acts (exhibitionism). In a hypermasculine, homophobic atmosphere, that could be humiliating and even dangerous for prisoners. And alot of these prisons' pratices have been criticized by human rights groups.

[cgrindley]

11. I think that using prisons as a means to torture people, even pedophiles

is disgusting.

I do not believe in rehabilitation. I do not believe in using prisons to educate inmates. I do not believe in parole. I believe that prison simply exists to remove people from greater society for a set amount of time.

But I also do not believe in capital punishment or cruel and unusual punishment.

To me, the ideal prison is 24 hour a day solitary confinement for all until sentences are expired. This is what every criminal deserves. No society in prison. No chance of seeing or interacting with other inmates.

[qdemn7]

13. I had a friend that did 7 years

In Texas Department of Corrections (TDC). He said all that was bullshit. His exact words were: "You don't mess with other people, they won't mess with you."

[LisaL]

14. Recently a guy around here was killed in prison.

He was accused of kidnapping a young child and keeping the child in his home.
So, I would guess so.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

15. I find the combination of your post and username disturbing. -nt

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22. This is not my fight.

All responses on this thread were good ones. I just had a momentary desire to wish bad things on the Chester guy for what he did. I'm all better now, and believe the justice system will take care of him.

[BadgerLaw2010]

16. Child molestors are normally segregated from the general population.

For someone who will be as notorious as this guy if caught, there's no question.

[Orsino]

18. They take pretty much anything out on pretty much everyone.

American prisons run on ill-suppressed psychosexual rage. Anyone wishing for justice in this manner ought to be aware that the same brutality often comes down on nonviolent offenders.

[bluestateguy]

19. That's why it won't be necessary for the state to sentence the rapist in the video to death

Just throw him in with the general population, and the other prisoners will do to him what needs to be done.

[laylah]

20. Here in Illinois

they keep them (pedophiles) out of the general population. There was a priest incarcerated at the local minimum security facility nearby, locked up for sexual abuse of altar boys. He was treated like freakin' ROYALTY by the administration and the guards. Illinois' penal system sucks in many, many ways (as do most).

[JVS]

29. Yeah, how dare IL watch out for the safety of some convicts!

:sarcasm:

[TahitiNut]

23. Nobody is "convicted of pedophilia." People are convicted of child molestation, rape, and abuse.

Just sayin'. :shrug:

[gollygee]

24. Prison rape isn't funny and it isn't justice

I hate these kinds of threads

[Bluerthanblue]

26. word~

[Ptah]

28. Prisoners take it out on other prisoners.

No one in general population is immune from the
punishment you imagine only dished out to the
most reprehensible criminals.

[LanternWaste]

30. According to my father who spent five in state and six in federal...

According to my father who spent five in state and six in federal (interstate transport of narcotics, in prison from '72-'82), no-- a prisoner will get raped or beaten depending on who he is and what he can do, not on what he was convicted of.

I never understood where that particular myth came from or when it started, but that's what it is-- a myth (at least in Huntsville State Prison and FCI, both in TX).

On the other hand, if people want to see this guy punished, he will be if he does state time. Regardless of what he was convicted of, if he doesn't know how to take care of huimself, he's either dead or someone's girlfriend before long.

[Ptah]

32. You explained it much better than I could.

Thanks.

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33. Wow. Thanks for the info.

[theNotoriousP.I.G.]

31. Unless he has a death wish

like Jeffrey Dahmer did when he requested to be placed in general population, Chester will most likely be housed in a unit with individuals convicted of similar offenses.