Is it time to dump the old people? Reflections on what Cramer said.

[The Backlash Cometh]

I was thinking about Cramer's Viagra comment. Basically, years ago, GM made health care promises to its workers back when they were grinding for America. Their tax dollars were taken out of their working salaries to pay for every budgetary consideration that came up in Congress during that era. They were the generation that didn't complain about taxes and understood that it was the way to make America solvent and strong. Or at least, they didn't bitch about them the way that this generation has.

At some point in the late eighties, early nineties, new terms crept up into our lexicon: Downsizing, leaner and meaner. Then we heard other terms: "Corporate Anorexia." And now, "outsourcing." As job opportunities dried up in America, the level of rancor between the races increased. We're like a sinking ship, right now, and Wall Street is the captain. It's one thing to watch them support self-strangulating policies like outsourcing. But, why didn't anybody catch their breath, and stop to reflect what Cramer was proposing? He was basically saying that it was time to dump the old people. How can our media talk through both sides of their mouth? How can they sit there and revere the War stories of the so called "Greatest Generation," at the same time that Cramer is suggesting dumping their health care?

It's time that we start determining what's important in this country. And if it's all about stock returns, how long before we all decide that this preamble is not worth fighting for?

[bronxiteforever]

1. You are right-We are "Soylent Green" to Wall Street

Cannibalize the unions, the manufacturing segment, dismantle the school system, mercenary armed forces-What the hell is going to be left of this Republic?

[The Backlash Cometh]

2. It's Class Warfare, okay. But it's the rich who have been attacking the other classes.

[Bitwit1234]

3. There is one Queen Bee in the bee colony

but if you don't have the workers, where would she be. Why can't the rich bit**es in this country understand. If you don't have the middle class, to do the jobs, buy the products and perform services, that require a country to keep going, how will this country last. They'll wither up and die.

[fasttense]

4. Long ago and far away, I read an economics text.

(I wish I could remember the title) that laid out how many middle class and poor people it took to support one ultra wealthy person. I think it listed over 5 million as ultra wealthy, of course that is peanuts to the ultra wealthy of today.

The formula was interesting because as you decreased the number of middle class people, you easily doubled that decrease in the number of poor it added. What it came down to was that the middle class and poor were supporting the ultra wealthy with their taxes, providing a market for their products and protecting their lives, property and rights with the military and police (not to mention doing their laundry, cleaning their toilets and serving their burgers).

It seemed that as the middle class shrank, their had to be many, many more poor people to support the few ultra wealthy. I wonder why no one looks on the ultra wealthy of today as people we middle class and poor support?

[Hydra]

5. It's the mentality of the uber rich

I, too, couldn't see why they didn't just keep the middle class zoo in place- the middle class works hard, pays large portions of their wages in taxes and services like insurance, and isn't appreciably more aware politically than the poor(and as one of the poor, I can say we have people who know nothing about why they are being screwed, and people like me who know who, what, where, why and how- full spectrum). In other words, a perfect set of cattle- fat, complacent and "living the american dream"

Now the problem comes at this point, a general truism:

The lower class wants everyone to be equal
The middle class wants what the upper class has
The upper class wants to keep what they have and keep the others out

The problem the upper classes have is Fear of the other two classes- the other two classes are far more numerous in case of revolt, especially if they are well armed and have smart and educated leaders.

From that problem comes the attempt to eliminate the threats.

-Education is cut down to the bare minimum needed for us to serve them, and reading and being smart are made socially undesirable. We are given TV news and other substitutes.

-They eliminate the middle class altogether- "How dare they think they're entitled to what we have?!" When you are working as hard as you can to keep food on the table and a roof above your head, you don't spend much time connecting the dots on who put you in that position.

-They arm the police with cutting edge weapons and the ability to search and arrest without probable cause- "they could be part of the rebellion, you know" and you give them the ability to torture or transfer the prisoner to the military to do such. That puts the fear back into the people.

In essence, to appease their fear of us, they turn us into slaves and make us as powerless as possible, and as fearful as possible. So what if they need more of us to get the same amount of wealth- that never bothered them before.