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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:04 AM
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Thomas says liberal elites and activist groups desecrated his life.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/28/AR2007092801634_pf.html

I think his rulings as a supreme court justice show that it is he who is the elitist, and activist against the individual

To think this is the person who replaced Thurgood Marshall makes me sick
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:06 AM
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1. How Much Did Sir Rupert Pay Thomas For His Book?
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 09:06 AM by MannyGoldstein
I think it was millions.

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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:25 AM
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11. Found It - $1.5 Million
Justice is sold relatively cheaply these days.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:07 AM
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2. Yep, they really messed up his chances for canonization
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:09 AM
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3. "DESECRATED?" Talk about delusions of grandeur...
des·e·crate (ds-krt)
tr.v. des·e·crat·ed, des·e·crat·ing, des·e·crates
To violate the sacredness of; profane.

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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:34 AM
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14. That was my first thought
DESECRATED? Who exactly does he think he is?

Unbelievable
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:05 AM
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25. That's a pretty bad word choice.
Regardless of who you are. Even if his life could be construed as something that could be desecrated, I think being sacred is kind of like being feminine - if you have to say you are, then you probably aren't.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:09 AM
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4. And maybe it was the phantom pubic hair
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 09:10 AM by melody
What a puffed-up, arrogant waste of space.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:16 AM
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6. I believe Anita Hill over that jerk. His prescence on the court show
what kind of person he is.

He is an active supreme court justice writing a book, totally inappropraite. Just like Scalia going around making speeches, or greenspan.

At the minimum the lack of professionalism they exhibit are a reflection of the government we have today

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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:15 AM
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5. I'm doubting Thomas...
... isn't more smarmy than I thought. Also, demented.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:17 AM
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7. He's rowing against the tide
the majority of Americans don't fall for and aren't interested in that crap.
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:19 AM
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8. Thomas has mental problems
His mental unbalance is clear from reading this article. He was mentally abused by his grandfather in childhood. It appears to have inflicted lasting damage. Thomas sounds like an extreme paranoid to me.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:20 AM
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9. Liberal elites and activist groups gave him an opportunity to
have a life beyond ditch digging.

He is an idiot.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:32 AM
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It's this attitude that gets you a Clarence Thomas who rejects liberalism
If you say, "You'd be nothing without us," you are denying the individual's own skill and ability. Some folks get sick of the patronizing attitude and want credit for what they have done and for the brains and persistence the possess. Maybe that's why they vote against things like affirmative action, which can be connected to patronizing attitudes like the one you espouse.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:46 AM
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16. I agree w/your contention. However, in the case of Thomas...
the man does not possess the requisite intellect to have made it through college w/o some pretty amazing aid. For that matter, if it were not for progressives in the 40's/50's/60's, Thomas would have never had the chance to attend college in the first place. The key word in Equal Opportunity is "Opportunity", what one does with that opportunity is something else again.

I do not believe that anyone should be afforded "special" treatment because of heritage, religion sex etc. I do believe that everyone has the inherent right to have an opportunity to better themselves w/o hindrance from preconceived and absurd notions that for some reason they "cannot succeed" because of some "physical situation".

Thomas used every opportunity that was afford him by those who laid down life and limb in trying to level a field that was/is out of balance. Once he got what he thought he deserved, he turned his back on those who had fought tooth and nail to ensure he would have a chance to succeed.

What i find truly bothersome about Thomas is that he is an intellectual lightweight, he is, to put it simply, an idiot. There are many others who worked hard to get professional and technical positions, and my respect goes to them. Thomas used the system, and then tries to lay waste to the very thing that gave him a chance. He is, quite simply, a Philistine.
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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:56 AM
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19. I wouldn't go that far
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 10:09 AM by PDenton
Thomas seems like an intelligent man, but there's something not right about his decision to dive into bed with conservative Republicans. I can understand his stances or abortion or affirmative action come from his own beliefs, but why is he a yes-man for the Right? There are plenty of conservative or moderate Democrats who don't feel the need to rub shoulders with Republicans or the Right for one reason or the other. Has the Right really done anything for him except give him a wink and a nod and say "look, we like blacks too?". It is almost like he is spiritually impoverished at some level, maybe "stockholm syndrome"?

Really, he should just stop the whining. He's got an envious position, one of the most powerful men in the world, and all he can do is bitch and moan. Why can't he figure out that Anita Hill was just politics- politics that is irrelevent now? That's what a mature person would do. Instead he's carrying around the Anita Hill hearings like a deep wound. If he had more moral fiber he'd rise above that.

Clarence Thomas seems like the most depressed guy on the court. Like Eyore he always finds something negative. Might I suggest Prozac?

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:19 AM
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26. I have listened to the man make a s"speech" one time...
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 10:20 AM by rasputin1952
I do believe he is an idiot.

One of the worst things I could have ever heard from anyone in the legal profession came about during his Confirmation Hearing...he made the incredible statement that he did not review the "charges" against him. For anyone in the legal system, especially a judge at the time, to not look at an allegation against him/her is beyond the pale. How can one even think someone like that could make a sound judgment? I don't think he has any comprehension of what he is doing. He is lazy, both intellectually and physically, he has written <than 10,000 words in his decisions of over 17+ yrs; he is out of his element.

I don't care about racial implications, there have been plenty of caucasian Associate Judges that have been in need of intellectual prowess, but Thomas is unique in that he is not just remarkably selfish and self aggrandizing at the expense of others who laid down the road he took, but he is just plain stupid. Read some of his decisions, for a "well educated" man, he writes like a 8th grader. He benefited greatly from the progressives, and did so w/o having to use anything in the intellectual department.
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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:22 AM
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32. sounds almost like
Clarence Thomas is a poster boy against affirmative action? Ironic that he's oppossed to it.

I'll have to dig up his legal stuff. I've never read them, just heard him talk on TV a few times and read some stuff he has written in various journals. He certainly sounds smarter than George Bush, who as far as we know is functionally illiterate (phonics?) and I'm not sure he actually reads books. Maybe he has somebody else read to him?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:32 AM
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33. A quick Google seach turns up a wealth of writings by Thomas
and few, if any, are worthy of anything that could be called, "scholarlly"...the guy is an embarrassment.

I am sure that editing is heavy, and yet, he still comes off like a fool...:(

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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:49 AM
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36. I did the google thing
And I looked up a few of his judgements on behalf of the court. And honestly he doesn't write like the typical eighth grader. I believe he is intellectually dishonest and conflicted but not stupid. Maybe there is significant editing?

I know he has a reputation as being recalcitrant and silent on the court, but that doesn't necessarily equal him being stupid. Maybe it is just his style, he doesn't like to hear his own voice? Some people consider that an admirable quality; Abraham Lincoln was often mocked for being a quiet person, as well. Of course, perhaps he is more intellectually "lazy" and believes that other justices can do his work for him. Regardless, I'm deeply suspicious of calling him "stupid" unless I see good evidence of it.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:56 AM
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38. FWIW...Lincoln was reported as having a very high pitched
voice would have made it probable he was pretty quiet unless he had to speak...:)
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:47 AM
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18. Your point is excellent and correct, however in the case of Thomas
he is mediocre at best, and it could even be argued that because of things like affirmative action we have his mediocrity put upon us.

However, the reality is that MOST people get through this life with help of some sort, whether it is parents, friends, or removing discriminating laws.

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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:01 AM
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22. and it could even be argued that because of things like affirmative action we have his mediocrity pu
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 10:05 AM by PDenton
"and it could even be argued that because of things like affirmative action we have his mediocrity put upon us."

Good point. I wonder if he has ever seriously considered that. It seems to me he really doesn't have the fiber of a Supreme Court justice. Maybe a lawyer but his thinking is not deeply analytical enough if he can't figure out that he is into masochism and self-hatred. Clarence Thomas is very much a slave... a slave in his mind, chained to forces he doesn't understand. He can't break free of alot of baggage. Actually, I have alot of pitty for this guy because I don't see him as really growing spiritually.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:04 AM
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24. His self-hatred is well-deserved...
in his heart of hearts, he knows that he is incompetent
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:25 AM
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29. His "skill and ability" appear to be somewhat lacking, given his rather
egregious misuse of the word "desecrate", don't you think?

After all, his entire job revolves around the PRECISE application of the English language.
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PDenton Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:51 AM
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37. "defame" would probably be a better word
"desecrate" implies ones life is holy. A decided lack of humility, perhaps?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 01:58 PM
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50. Is that an "astigmatism" he's going to bear for the rest of his life?
He's a buffoon.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 01:54 PM
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49. His inappropriate use of the word "desecrate" reminds me of a pithy comment Truman Capote...
once said about someone:
"He doesn't know what he's saying. He talks like a Reconstruction Negro"

Remember: I didn't say that. Capote did. But still...
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:55 AM
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31. It is fair to deny Thomas' "skill and ability" as claimed. Yale law my ass.
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 11:00 AM by BadgerLaw2010
The man is not intelligent enough to be admitted to, and graduate from, a top law school solely on his own ability, let alone hold the position he does. Nothing in his career prior to being nominated gives much reason to question that.

Compare his resume to the other modern conservative appointees and see if any of it even looks similar.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:22 PM
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47. Truth is truth. Liberals fought for Civil Rights; his Republican cronies fought the Liberals.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:24 AM
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10. Now that he has his piece of the pie thanks to the liberal elites of the day
Fuck the rest of them eh Clarence you piece of shit nutcase
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:28 AM
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12. He should try Buddhism for ways of coping with his whining n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:57 AM
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20. Let's send his holiness a sock.
lol
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:05 PM
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42. or a slice of cheese....
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 12:12 PM by wizstars
...to go with his w(h)ine?
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:32 AM
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13. He sounds like a man who can always find someone else to blame for his troubles.
First he blames his father (and rightly so) for abandoning him. Then he blames the Catholic Church for not doing more about ending racism. Then he blames his grandfather for throwing him out and later being so poor he tried to sell his blood (join the club Thomas). Then he blames liberals, and feminists who wanted the right to choose an abortion or not (an out of wedlock mother back then had no hope of ever attaining a decent living) and, finally he blames Hill. Later he blames the Senators who opposed him at his nomination hearing.

He took advantage of affirmative action but doesn't want anyone else to take advantage of the same program.

He is the perfect, selfish, whining, neocon, living very well and complaining about how hard his life was.



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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:46 AM
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15. it wasn't his uncletomism and his obsession with porn then?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:47 AM
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17. desecrated? -- so now thomas thinks he's sacred?
can a justice be removed cause he's patently nuts?

cause that's just about as nutty as it gets.

and a guy with his education knows what desecrated means.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:00 AM
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21. Maybe he thinks he is the second comming of Christ? nt
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:02 AM
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23. " Uncle Tom's Crying Towel"
I really despise that INCOMPETENT lowlife
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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:20 AM
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27. OK. Surrender your Ivy League law degree and reclaim your desecrated ego.
OK. Surrender your Ivy League law degree and reclaim your desecrated ego.

Holy Shit. You are a pathetic whiner.

OK you have a decent IQ, had a strict upbringing, got into a top law school via affirmative action and thence onto a legal career that landed you at it's very pinnacle. Maybe you could be privately happy and go forth to expound some original, insightful legal opinions. (Didn't happen.)

And so what if the ABA gave you the lowest possible rating, they don't have a market on creativity or greatness. Besides, you were young-ish for a nominee and spent a lot of your time as a Republican political toady- OK not exactly the Thurgood Marshall track. But still you got there- you got the ring! And what did you do with it? You sat there and never said a word and now you want to bitch.

Get real, man. In the white hot Republican politics of anti-choice Supreme Count nomination politics you stated- under oath- that you never had a discussion or thought about Roe v. Wade. Dude! As if!

You are seriously not credible on the big issue here. Excuse the Advise and Consent Clause of the Constitution, but your whinny little ego desecration was a stinking pile of credibility issue.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:22 AM
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28. "Desecrated" his life??? I beg your pardon, you pompous windbag -
one "desecrates" HOLY PLACES.

I don't happen to think the pubic hair and coke can thing was particularly HOLY, do you, Mr. Thomas?
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:12 PM
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44. i have news for this Opus Dei POS
1. you are not on the fast track for beatification after your demise.
2. see # 1.
3. no number of novenas will save your rotten lying soul from Purgatory.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:28 AM
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30. Wait, where is my little violin?
Oh, here it is. :nopity:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:35 AM
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34. He's had his revenge many times over...
...assisting in the paupering of millions, and the denial of civil rights to hundreds of millions.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:44 AM
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35. 'Desecrated his life?'
DESECRATED? Who does he think he is, Jesus?
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:59 AM
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40. Do you think he really meant "My life is a desecration"? n/t
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:58 AM
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39. "Why won't you DIE??" I know we aren't supposed to actually wish death on people...
but can't we make an exception in the cases of the conservative members of the SCOTUS??

That's the only way they'll ever go away.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 11:59 AM
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41. What did we do, put a pubic hair on it?
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:08 PM
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43. We've defiled the holy sanctuary that is Clarence Thomas? OH NOES!
Do not look directly at him, for verily his wrath is mighty!
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:21 PM
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45. Apparently, Thomas is eager for another "desecration".....
by writing what sounds like a very self-pitying, myopic book. His sixteen years on the Supreme Court spent carrying water and warming the bench aren't going to help him. How dare he say being a Supreme Court Judge means nothing to him? So resign already!

On a lighter note, Thomas' interview with Rush Limbaugh ought to provide a few laughs.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:21 PM
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46. CT can KMWA. And for his information, "desecration" destroys his argument.
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 12:25 PM by WinkyDink
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bjorkfan Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 12:28 PM
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48. Virtual Child Porn case
Didn't he vote in favor of legalizing computer-generated and other images of child porn that did not involve actual children? That would not make social conservatives too happy.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:00 PM
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51. He and Thurgood Marshall do have one thing in common...
Office atire.
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