White House decides to piggyback on Kyl-Lieberman with a plan to attack Iran's Revolutionary Guard

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Bush Administration Has Revised Plans For Possible Attack On Iran-Report

NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- This summer, the White House, pushed by the office of Vice President Dick Cheney, requested that the Joint Chiefs of Staff redraw long-standing plans for a possible attack on Iran, the New Yorker magazine reported on its Web site Sunday, citing former officials and government consultants. The focus of the plans had been a broad bombing attack, with targets including Iran's known and suspected nuclear facilities and other military and infrastructure sites, according to the article written by Seymour M. Hersh.

Now, the emphasis is on "surgical" strikes on Revolutionary Guard Corps facilities in Tehran and elsewhere, which, the administration claims, have been the source of attacks on Americans in Iraq, the New Yorker reported in the article, which will appear in the magazine's Oct. 8 issue.

The revised bombing plan for a possible attack, with its tightened focus on counterterrorism, is gathering support among generals and admirals in the Pentagon, the report said.

The strategy calls for the use of sea-launched cruise missiles and more precisely targeted ground attacks and bombing strikes, including plans to destroy the most important Revolutionary Guard training camps, supply depots, and command and control facilities, the New Yorker reported.

"Cheney's option is now for a fast in and out-for surgical strikes," the former senior American intelligence official said, according to the report. The Joint Chiefs have turned to the Navy, he said, which had been chafing over its role in the Air Force-dominated air war in Iraq, the report said.

"The Navy's planes, ships, and cruise missiles are in place in the Gulf and operating daily. They've got everything they need - even (Airborne Warning and Control Systems) are in place and the targets in Iran have been programmed. The Navy is flying FA-18 missions every day in the Gulf," the report quoted the official as saying.

There are also plans to hit Iran's anti-aircraft surface-to-air missile sites, the report said. "We've got to get a path in and a path out," the former official said, according to the New Yorker report.

A Pentagon consultant on counterterrorism told me that, if the bombing campaign took place, it would be accompanied by a series of what he called " short, sharp incursions" by U.S. Special Forces units into suspected Iranian training sites, the report said. He said, "Cheney is devoted to this, no question," according to the report.

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[and-justice-for-all]

1. I have had it with these fucking bastards!!!!

:mad:

[killbotfactory]

2. It's okay, it was a non-binding resolution.

:(

[bigtree]

6. I wonder if they knew about this plan in Congress when they voted for the amendment?

[MadHound]

9. Oh, once again, as with the IWR, these Dems will claim that they were duped, fooled I tell ya!

That they had no way of knowing that Bush would use this to start another war. My frank opinion, like with the IWR, is that if you're dumb enough to be fooled by Bushboy, you're too dumb for higher office.

Frankly though, I think that the Dems knew exactly what they were voting for, and what the ramifications of it would be. Which means that they are entirely too immoral and bloodthirsty to hold office.

[bigtree]

12. I like how in the debate, Sen. Clinton claimed to have had enough info for her 'yes' vote

and then later complained that the administration had control over the intelligence. Why would ANYONE trust the administration 'intelligence' at this point?

[Skidmore]

18. Yep, she has experience alright.

In pandering and bullshit piled high and deep.

[BelgianMadCow]

23. .

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

30. I really dislike saying this

but I honestly hate her. She gave me the chills when she started to spew the bullshit intelligence that is coming from the same sociopaths that gave us Iraq. She is my state Senator and after she voted for the IWR, which I knew was based on lies (all you had to do was do the research), I swore I would never vote for her again. I think she is insidiously evil.

[TwilightGardener]

34. Why would anyone trust HER intelligence at this point?

[Raksha]

35. I think they did too, and I also agree with your conclusion.

Re Frankly though, I think that the Dems knew exactly what they were voting for, and what the ramifications of it would be. Which means that they are entirely too immoral and bloodthirsty to hold office.

[never_get_over_it]

22. Do you think for one moment

that Lieberman DIDN'T take his marching orders from the White House - these members who voted yes on this non-binding BS give Bush an inch and he'll take a mile may not have known about the plan before but they sure as hell should have known NOT TO TRUST THESE PEOPLE - the damn thing should have NEVER come to a vote - THANKS Nancy - THANKS Harry and oh YES THANKS HILLARY

Would someone PLEASE tell Nancy and Harry they control the EFFING AGENDA and what gets voted on and what doesn't

JESUS H CHRIST I can't take this shit anymore

[bigtree]

26. marching orders from the white house

"Our military leaders, diplomats, and intelligence reports say that there is clear evidence Iran is exerting negative influence in Iraq," said Kyl.
http://lieberman.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=284225&&

[Cha]

25. It's their fucking job

to know. Wasn't bush advising them? :silly:

Oooops! Now hillary is going to look like an idiot again along with every other dino who voted for this.

[bigtree]

27. It's like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football

:banghead:

[Cha]

28. Only mentally challenged

ones do the same thing over and over again that isn't workng unless they don't care and want the bombing to commence.

[watrwefitinfor]

3. Think: Lebanon.

A practice run.

Wat

[Lerkfish]

15. agreed, and I thought so at the time

[izzie]

4. Are they taking odds in Nv. yet on this?

We can really start to worry when they do. I would put my money on Bush doing some thing like this before he left office. And after hearing what the Dem. said in NH I guess if we have another Bush/Clinton royal family in the WH we will be at war with that country also. With some luck I guess we can keep 911 going until my grandchildren have grand children. I can not get over how well we did in the Cold War not to have to many real wars. Just Korea, Vietnam and the endless little ones where we so called saved the local people from maybe sharing their own lands with the 'ruling' party who we of course backed. My God but I am sick of this mess of empire and forcing how we live on every world wide.

[annabanana]

5. SEE NANCY? SEE HARRY? THIS is what happens when

you don't whip the majority into a bulwark against ALL INCURSIONS by the lying scheming right-wing junta that has taken over the American government.

Iran is right to declare the CIA an enemy. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[bigtree]

7. who didn't think this was going to encourage the administration?

'No, no, the resolution wasn't an invitation to war on Iran at all,' some said . . . 'Don't give Bush an inch,' others argued.

[robinlynne]

32. Even here on DU there are posters who AGREED with voting for the Kyl-Lieb!!!!!

only 2, but they're here.

[Skidmore]

8. What more can you say?

I'm so through with this Congress.

[charlie]

10. Well, that'll give the freeper types

one last splattery wargasm. Hope they can savor the memory when they shit their drawers waking up to gas at over 5 bucks a gallon the next morning. Hey, whatever it takes to make their pinhead "look presidential", it's worth it. Maybe our Dems can stand united with a strongly worded Sense of the Senate, or Intent to Consider a Sense of the Senate, or somesuch, and do heroic battle to get it to the floor. No, maybe not. So many of them are doing well just Not Being Republicans, why risk sticking their necks out?

[KharmaTrain]

11. Oil, Oil, Oil

This regime sees the clock running down on their con game and isn't gonna go without making certain that it maintains its meal ticket...big oil.

While invading Iran is all but impossible...the country's too big and with which troops are we going to invade with? However, these strikes sure can take out Iran's oil infrastructure...just like Saddam Hussein did in the 80's...and maintain the high prices that both knocking out Iranian production and the ensuing turmoil would produce.

As the saying goes..."how come our oil is under their sand?"

[bigtree]

13. right. suppress production to advantage the Saudis, like they have in Iraq

and to keep Russia and China from benefiting from Iran's expanding oil market. It's to deter Europeans from doing business with Iran also.

[Lerkfish]

14. See, people? I TOLD you they would use the "NON-BINDING" kyl-lieberman to justify invasion

but, no, no I"M the crazy one.

:rolleyes:

it didn't even take a week.

[cali]

16. You were hardly the only one thinking that

It was obvious that non-binding or not, this resolution lends cover to the admin.

[Lerkfish]

17. sorry, didin't mean to imply I was the ONLY one, just that people here kept

saying "its only a non-binding resolution"

but I was certianly ONE of the ones saying that.

[Junkdrawer]

19. WW III will be a magnificently planned miscalculation...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1912144&mesg_id=1912144

[bigtree]

20. or a deliberate war

calculated to disrupt relationships between other nations which our corporatist politicians determine undermine their own monied ambitions.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

21. He who must not be mentioned arriving for war planning meeting...

[kenny blankenship]

24. Cheney: i don't want ALL of Iran, just a little nibble

(and we'll see where it goes from there--maybe there'll be a second date, then maybe romance, then maybe marriage)

[lovuian]

29. Cheney maybe committed to it but is the US Military men and

women and US people
That its a Democratic Congress that has let this mad man continue is a disgrace

[sarcasmo]

31. It is going to happen folks, look for that five-seven dollars a gallon at your local station.

[robinlynne]

33. WHAT A SURPRISE!

[bigtree]

36. some folks STILL think the resolution is benign

and averts approval for an attack.

They're still arguing that for some insane reason. It's like there's a fog

[robinlynne]

38. I think those particular folks are trolls.

[bigtree]

39. or apologizing for their candidate's support of kyl-Lieberman

[robinlynne]

40. oh yes, forgot.

[Individualist]

41. DLC trolls

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

37. "We didn't know that it would lead to war." Echo, echo, echo..

They sure as hell "had the votes" for that little foray into "practical" politics and pandering.

[AtomicKitten]

42. Someone alert HRC supporters because -

they think the Kyl-Lieberman amendment is no big whoop.

:scared:

[Canuckistanian]

43. Gee, who could have predicted this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3567362&mesg_id=3567435