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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:25 AM
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What Larry Craig Wants, No Judge or Jury Can Give
What Larry Craig Wants, No Judge or Jury Can Give

Sept. 28 (Bloomberg) -- If Minnesota judge Charles Porter Jr. does the expected, he will refuse to let Senator Larry Craig take back his guilty plea for his now notorious men's room encounter with an undercover cop.

At that point, Porter will have saved Craig from yet another of the senator's bizarre errors in judgment.

Compounding his previous errors, the Idaho Republican this week sent lawyers to persuade Porter to undo his guilty plea and let him go to trial. As Craig says, he wants ``to clear my name.''

He probably doesn't mean he wants to clear his name of the taint of a disorderly conduct conviction.

More...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_woolner&sid=a6wUUcBP0sWc

Sooooo....Craig wants to clear his name....of a charge of "disorderly conduct..." ???

So what? And that is just about what the article says. So even if he wins on that charge...where does that get him on the underlying facts that he was busted in a sting operation focusing on gay sex propositions in the men's bathroom at that airport???

What a waste of time and money. IMO, Larry Craig needs to deal with who he really is. As the article says: It is NOT a crime to be gay.
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:27 AM
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1. Its kind of hard to feel sorry for him.
He made a career out of discriminating against gays. And now he finds himself trapped in the same system he helped to create.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:27 AM
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2. He is a sad testament to the homophobia of his generation.
Maybe this realization will open a few minds...ya never know....
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:28 AM
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3. He could care less about the actual charges against him.
He wants to world to know & acknowledge that he IS NOT GAY - even though the men he fucks are.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:40 AM
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6. Boy....
...did you hit that one right on. Yeah, IMO, Craig seems to think that he is a 100% straight guy who just happens to have sex with other men. Yep, the OTHER GUYS are gay...but Larry thinks he is totally straight. He may be right that he is not gay...but that is cuz he may be bi. There is NOTHING wrong with being whatever sexual persuasion rings one's chimes as long as consenting adults are involved in the conduct. What is wrong of time is lying about it. That changes no part of the truth.

No doubt in my mind that Larry Craig knows who and what he is....he just cannot accept it and would rather lie. I feel NO sympathy for him like I would for many people who are having problems with accepting their sexual persona...and this is because of all the harm and hatred he has directed toward gays in our society. Maybe he thinks that if he looks like he hates gays, no one will suspect that he likes gay sex. Who knows...

JMHO
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:30 AM
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4. Open Gay's are beat in Provincetown ,and we'll spend money..
protecting this Misanthrope!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:39 AM
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5. Larry Craig will always be known as the guy who
got caught playing footsie in the bathroom. You can't unring a bell.

He is apparently so ashamed of who he is that he'll do anything, including making himself look like a complete fool, to try and change people's perception.

The only reason he was in that bathroom soliciting sex in the first place was that he lives in a cold dark closet. The real shame here is that he truly believes that being gay is something shameful, and he cannot admit the truth - apparently even to himself.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:41 AM
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7. Great post....
....I tried to say above what you said....but you said it a ton better than I did.

Thanks for the post! :hi:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:41 AM
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8. From the piece: He means, of course, he wants to clear it of any link to homosexuality.
He will have a hard time doing that because technically, officially, he isn't charged with homosexuality. Technically, officially, it is no longer a crime in America to be gay. The U.S. Supreme Court said so ages ago, in 2003.

No, Craig was instead charged with being disorderly because the officer in the next stall took his peculiar hand and foot movements as a sexual come-on.

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:44 AM
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9. I heard if they do have to take it to trial they will reinstate the peeping charge as well.
He may regret very much this decision even if the court were to allow it...
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:52 AM
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10. Yeah, I agree.
When someone pleas out on a case, it is usually to the lesser charges. That is how the system works ~~ the DA overcharges in hopes of getting a plea to a lesser charge and then he/she can close the case.

Yep, if the judge allows the plea to be withdrawn, I am sure as I am sitting her drinking my morning coffee that the DA will reinstate the other charges...and IMO the DA has a right to do this cuz the plea agreement was a bargained for deal for both sides.

I think LC will regret this BS move...assuming the judge allows him to withdraw his guilty plea.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:53 AM
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11. Its beyond Reason. He has something wrong with his thinking.....Pathological? Fantasy over Reality
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 12:35 PM
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12. There is a glitch somewhere , IMO.
Like the article said...even if the "disorderly conduct" charges go away....that says nothing about whether or not he was looking to hook up for sex when he was in the men's room at the airport.

What a losing arugment....and, yeah, he really needs to deal with reality and not this kind of shit that is a total waste of time.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:31 PM
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13. "There is Something about Larry"...and its not looking very good, is it?
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