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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:33 AM
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There Are A Lot Of Democratic Voters Like My Mom
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 09:34 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
She's eighty nine years old, god bless her... She has voted Democratic in every election since FDR beat Wendell Wilkie in 1940...Her first boyfriend was one of those "soft socialists" who would proselytize on street corners...He went on to become a comptroller in the Lindsay administration... She walked precincts with me in a baby carriage for John Kennedy in 1960...She took me to the front of a rope line in 1964 to shake Robert Kennedy's hand at a Rego Park, New York rally when he was running for senator of New York ...I am trying to channel that memory but it was so long ago...We eventually moved to Florida...She caucused for Ted Kennedy in 1980 at a Daytona Beach straw poll... I remember handing out Ted Kennedy pamphlets in Daytona Beach that year...We met Al and Tipper in 00...Tipper bent down to kiss my mom who is now in a wheel chair...We even met the dreaded Joe Lieberman... My mom was eighty two years old during the 00 election and was recovering from a colon resection but that didn't stop us from braving the oppressive October heat to see Al Gore, Joe Lieberman, and Bill Nelson campaigning at the Eola Bansdhell in Orlando, Florida...

I only post this because I see so many posts by folks stating that they don't know anybody who likes Hillary... My mom loves her... I'm not saying you should too... Nothing of the sort... But what I am saying is there are many folks who like Hillary...Maybe it's the residue of the Clinton years which look so good in comparison to what we have now...Maybe it's something else but I assure you there are a ton of folks who like her..

From the heart...

DSB
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:37 AM
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1. It's true,
Hillary was right to court the people who have faith in traditional institutions and the mainstream media. They are the ones who will nominate her. In fact all the Democrats are doing pretty much the same thing, and it's working for them too. It looks like it will take another few generations for real change to occur.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:41 AM
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4. As A General Observation
As a general observation there are a lot of garden variety Democrats who will support Hillary... There are also a lot of Democratic leaning Indys who will support her...Given the disaffection with the GOP this makes her nomination and election more than a theoretical possibility...


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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:39 AM
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2. My mom is 70 ....
She has always voted a democratic ticket.

She has her heart set on HRC or Obama winning.

Like you, I know many, many folk that are very pleased by the prospect of a HRC presidency
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:40 AM
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3. Your mom sounds like someone i would like to meet!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:42 AM
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5. There are also a lot of Democratic supporters like my family
My mother is seventy seven years old, a lifelong Democrat who can't stand Hillary, thinking that she is a corporate shill, phony and won't stop the war. My step father, eighty three a career Air Force pilot and lifelong Democrat feels the same way. My sister, active in women's rights and other areas thinks that Hillary is not the right choice at all. I've also many friends who won't be voting for her, either in the primaries or the general if she gets the nod. These aren't the whacked out left that Hillary supporters like to portray us as, these are ordinary, everyday, middle class Americans who have enough insight and intelligence to put together the facts about Hillary and make up their own mind.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:12 AM
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12. Sounds like my family.
I think it's safe to say that they'll all vote the democratic ticket come next year with the possible exception of my mom. She probably won't go to the polls if HRC is the candidate.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:48 AM
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6. Please....give your Mom a HUGE hug from me....
....and tell her your story about her brought tears to my eyes. If my mom were alive, she would have been about the same age as your mom ~~ my mom would have turned 84 last August. My mom died 7 years ago this last July.

BTW: I dislike Hillary to the max...the absolute max and this is nothing new with me ~~ I disliked her when she was First Lady. I don't trust her and I see her as a phony. But more power to your mom for liking her.

Sweet story about your mom and thanks for posting it. :hi:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:24 AM
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9. My Mom Would Like Just About Any Democrat
My whole extended family, with a few exceptions ,are stalwart Democrats...My aunt lived in NY her entire life...She passed away at ninety eight on Mother's Day 05...She hated Rudy...My mom told her, innocently, a few years ago that she got a birthday card from the George Bush White House like all old folks do and my aunt said "I don't care about that bastard." LOL...
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:52 AM
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14. I like your family.....
...my grandparents ~~ all from Europe ~~ we all Dems. But my parents were both Repukes. Gawd...save us all from neocon, Reagan loving parents!

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:25 PM
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22. My Grandparents Were From Russia
They came here in the early twentieth century...
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:03 AM
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7. I was a poll worker in 1960.
It was cold as hell in Maryland. I stood in front of the polling place handing out literature for Kennedy at the displeasure of the five or six republicans standing there. They PAID their workers, they had more. I might have froze but I had the last laugh, my guy won.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:20 AM
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8. I Was Two Then...
eom
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 10:55 AM
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10. My Mom also loves Hillary
She's 76, a life long involved Democrat. She's nostalgic for the Clinton years and is excited by the prospect of a female president.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:06 AM
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11. So does my Mom. I think she secretly thinks Big Dog will be assisting.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 11:16 AM
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13. My mother is 74, a lifelong repubic and loves HRC. n/t
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 12:38 PM
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15. I'd love to meet your Mom.
:hug:
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:19 PM
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28. Hates * with a passion. Scares the hell
out of her, for good reason. Mom's a good lady and truly cares about people. You would like her, Em. :hug:

My family were always the decent kind of republicans, well most of them anyway. My two yuppie fundy middle sisters and their hubbies are the neocon type. :puke:

I registered as the first Democrat in 1976. :)
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:10 PM
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33. He scares the heck out of me, too. Worst administration in my lifetime.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:29 PM
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48. I never believed that anyone
could make Raygun seem less destructive, less ignorant, less stupid and more worthless.

I was wrong.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 12:41 PM
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16. I wish it was 1960.
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 01:26 PM
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17. My mom is 92 and will vote for Hillary!
I,m 72, hubby 73 and we are also voting for her, maybe as older folks we have seen many more administrations at work. We firmly believe its time for a woman, as Sally Fields said " If the world was run by mothers there would be no god damn wars".
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 01:42 PM
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18. My grandmother is 84, first voted (for FDR) in 1944. She's a lifelong rural Democrat.
Her lower body was partially crippled by a spinal cord infection in 1998 but her mind is still as good as ever and she likes talking about current events and especially politics (she calls * a hybrid of Hoover, Nixon, and Satan :evilgrin: ). She likes Obama, she says he reminds her of both FDR and JFK.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 01:46 PM
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19. It sounds like the old folks are as divided as the rest of us...
My 81-year-old mother-in-law, also a lifelong Democrat, is NOT a Hillary fan.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:28 PM
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42. My mom is 83 a life long Democrat and she agrees with your mother-in-law
n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 01:54 PM
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20. There's Dems in my town
who are gazed over by hillary..just not me.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 01:55 PM
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21. This is the PRIMARY everybody! There are lots of opinions out there
with people of all ages. I remember being a STRONG Dean fan, and I really didn't like Kerry at all, but I voted for him in the General. I honestly think we will see that again in 08 as well.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:37 PM
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23. K&R
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:39 PM
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24. (a) Anyone who likes Clinton is a corporate shill, (b) no-one likes Clinton; it's all a hoax....
... To hear DUers tell it.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:28 PM
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25. My dad's a staunch life long Democrat who voted for Reagan.
People make mistakes. People are aware of it all. My mother is also interested in Clinton. I think I turned her on to the notion of corporatism. Her generation isn't as cynical as ours. We saw the damage that "nice old guy" Reagan did.

My mom takes every word of the New York Times as the gospel. It might be the best we've got, but I believe the candidates are being chosen for us by these large media outlets.

We can do better than Hillary. That's all I have to say. I guess I can say more. We could do worse. Much worse. But I like to think of big change. Not more of the same middle of the road.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:46 PM
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26. My mom is 79
and she wants HRC for president. She wants the Big Dog back in the WH. One of my girlfriends wants HRC because she thinks a womans' touch is needed in our domestic issues. Both of them are female Leos. Strong smart women. If HRC wins the Primary I will of course vote for her. I can't philosophically get over the DLC being so far to the right. It hurts my brain to think Republik lite.
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:10 PM
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27. Yup, Repuke lite is more acceptable to older people because...
seniors are a protected class and "winner take all" doesn't effect them as much.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:42 PM
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29. Nice
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 06:07 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
My eighty nine year old mom isn't in a "protected class" and she isn't a Repuke lite...She's not going to sell her soul for a $560.00 SS check...

She has dome more to elect Democrats than most folks could ever aspire to...
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:49 PM
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30. Disgusting,isn't it?
Imagine how died in the wool lifelong Democrats would feel about their so called fellow Dems calling them "repub lite".There are a lot of posters on this board that I hope and pray don't volunteer to do any door to door canvassing this election.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:51 PM
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31. Hey, don't put your mom up there to be criticized if you don't want
to hear the criticisms.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:59 PM
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32. She's Not A Repuke Lite
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 06:01 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
That's not criticism...That's character assasination...

If someone said that to her face and it was a guy I would drop him...
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:45 PM
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34. So you would commit an assault? And only if it was a male?
Grrrrrr...what a tough-guy you must be!!!

What if the dude was like 6'8" and 250 lbs...and a champion mixed-martial artist???

BTW, The reply was not a "charater asssasination".

The post merely pointed out that certain Dems are sometimes fooled by a conservative in liberal clothing.

The poster also called the candidate a "Repuke-lite"...not your mom.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:49 PM
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35. 6'2 225
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 07:01 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Second generation Golden Gloves boxer and former bouncer... My mother is a saint...If somebody disrespected her I wouldn't care if he had a glock...

on edit- this is fucking amazing...i tell a poignant story about my eighty nine year old mom with no instruction and no commands and some joker on the internet wants to turn it in to a pissing match..
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:58 PM
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36. LOL...you are precious. n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:00 PM
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37. Thank You
Love ya back


:P
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:05 PM
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38. No...thank you n/t
;)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:11 PM
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39. No Thank You
I mean it


:P
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:24 PM
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47. Didn't mean to offend you--couldn't you tell I was generalizing?
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:16 PM
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40. I would prefer a candidate that appeals to young voters
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 07:17 PM by Jed Dilligan
The old guard can't prop up the party forever.

on edit: My mom, aged 64 and also a lifelong Democratic voter, cannot stand the woman!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:18 PM
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41. Sup
It wasn't an instructive thread... Just a descriptive one of an old Dem...
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:39 PM
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44. I want a candidate that appeals to the most voters. n/t
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:39 PM
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43. GO MOM!! What a cool woman your mother sounds like! n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:43 PM
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45. Where's Fort Mill?
Is it near Dillon?

I wish I could just get in my car and drive from Orlando to DC on 95...
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:09 PM
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46. I'm not a Hillary fan but
your mother sounds like a TERRIFIC person give her a big :hug: My father loved the Clinton's he has dementia now so he doesn't know what's going on. I think if he was "with it" he'd probably support her too.
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