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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:33 PM
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Folks are SERIOUSLY going to DRAFT GORE
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:34 PM
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1. How do you feel about that....drafting Gore, i.e.? nt
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:03 PM
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19. GORE running would be a NIGHTMARE for Republicans
Gore would UNDO all the damage done to this country by the Bush gang of 40 thieves

Well maybe not the only chance but the ONE SURE chance the Dems have of Restoring the Constitution and getting our troops out of Bush's oil war.

Hilary and Obama are fine candidates but either of them being nominated would seriously be quagmired in bigotry and the RATpublican Smear campaign. Edwards stands the best chance of winning against any of the repub candidates but even he would not be as effective as Gore in the White House

The majority of the country feels Gore was CHEATED out of an election and would support his administration
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:52 PM
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26. I so agree with you especially in believing Gore would restore the
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 05:55 PM by snappyturtle
Constitution. For those who haven't heard Al Gore's speech to the DAR January 2006 I've included a link where the transcript can be read or the video viewed. I heard it via Sirius radio....just listening, it was one of the most powerful speeches I have heard in my lifetime! I have listened to it a few times hence.....still gives me goose bumps!

http://www.acslaw.org/node/2096


on edit: I am so impressed with Gore's passion in this speech for the Constitution and admire his presentation....he's achieved new heights in that direction.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:05 PM
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37. Thanks for posting that link.
I'm going to use it for an assignment I have in my Rhetorical Criticism class. :)
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:14 PM
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43. Wonderful! It will be interesting for you to read the critiques....I
assume that may be part of the assignment.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:21 PM
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46. Yes... but I also have to use examples from the text in my paper...
as well as give a good representation of what the mood in the United States was at the time. It will be a fun assignment to do. :)
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:58 PM
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55. Good luck; sounds like fun.....nt
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:34 PM
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2. While their dedication is admirable, Gore is not running. n/t
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:45 PM
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4. Yes he is!
Sorry, but he will run.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:51 PM
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6. It's October. He isn't running.
Stop holding out for a savior and start looking at the actual candidates. If Gore *were* running, I'd switch my avatar to him in a heartbeat, but as it stands, Al's staying home.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:54 PM
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You're right by the end of this month delegate slate requirement deadlines
will be closed in a number of states, and it still takes delegates to win.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:59 PM
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17. Why do people say that anyone holding out for who they believe
to be the very best qualified person for the most powerful job in the land to be waiting for a saviour?

No one can be elected until the time comes, not even the people advertising for the job.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:22 PM
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31. I have an answer for that. We are looking for saviors in congress, in presidential candidates, and
unfortunately that isn't what's working. We are going to have to make change in this country our very own selves. We feel as if the system of electing representatives is supposed to work. It is corrupted for so many reasons right now. It is not representing us. so, understand the people wanting Gore to run so badly it hurts, because they want that change to happen, and understand those saying Gore won't run, because it looks like he is not running; and they are saying move on to another way of making change.
We are all desperate for BIG CHANGE. All of us. (Except for 2 or 3 trolls).Any way to that change is WELCOME and WANTED.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:41 PM
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32. Well that's a good answer, robinlynne
I can't argue with your logic.:thumbsup:
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:04 PM
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20. Did not the BIG DOG enter late
He avoided all the smear tactics and won the White House that way. Why would Gore not follow his example
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:07 PM
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23. He officially announced on 10/3/91 but had set up unofficial campaign organizations
in many states for months before hand and it was no surprise he was running.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:13 PM
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24. They have unofficial campaign organizations in many states
right now

Time to get on board and save our country
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:06 PM
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21. I don't need to start looking for a candidate..
If Gore doesn't run, I'll be voting for Dennis in the primary (again).
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 06:52 PM
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33. Bill Clinton declared in October.
Worked out pretty well.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:51 PM
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7. I would love for you to be right...but unfortunately
you aren't.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:57 PM
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12. Well, I don't know how you would actually know, do you?
I'm thinking he surely will!
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:58 PM
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14. The fact that it is Sept. 30th might give one a clue. nt
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:01 PM
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18. Ah, another DUer with a crystal ball.
:eyes:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:36 PM
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25. Know what?
I like OUR crystal ball better!!! LOL!






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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 04:32 AM
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59. Me too!
:hi:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:38 PM
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3. It only takes 2,181 delegates to nominate!
Seriously!
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:49 PM
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5. It's great that people believe in something or someone but
drafts don't work anymore and haven't for a long time. The last draft that worked was in 1952 and Adlai Stevenson. The reason drafts don't work anymore is, ironically, because the bosses no longer control conventions. If the bosses didn't think someone could win they could strategize with other leaders in the party, the unions, ect and put forth another name. Back then most delegates were not chosen in primaries. Today they are and sadly most people will vote for the people who are actually on the ballot. One of the candidates who is an actual candidate will be the Democratic nominee.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:51 PM
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8. count me in... n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:52 PM
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9. I'm sending this to the greatest ( I don't care who that may offend).
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:58 PM
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15. Not me.
That's for damn sure. :-)
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:14 PM
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42. I'm right there with ya...
Kicked and recommended!!
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:54 PM
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10. He Could Announce
The day before the convention and
still get enough delegates.
They'd "release" themselves
and vote for Al.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:57 PM
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13. maybe but most delegates who are chosen in primaries are
committed to the candidate they were elected to represent unless that candidate releases them. Also, if you're running for delegate I think most people who are elected as a delegate for a certain candidate honestly do support that candidate and would still vote for that candidate even if Al Gore declares, which he will not. Instead I think Gore will try to influence the primaries by endorsing a candidate who is in the race.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:58 PM
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29. No they wouldn't. That's not remotely reality. n/t
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:55 PM
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11. Smell the coffee...
Is someone going to hold a gun to his head a make him run? Time to face reality.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:58 PM
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16. He has my complete support, and none of the current nominees do.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:07 PM
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22. Gore would take the SWING Voters with ease
Some thing some of our current candidates could not do on their best day
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:54 PM
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27. Al Gore is my "pretty please!" wish candidate
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 05:54 PM by DFW
But I fear it will remain just that: wishful thinking.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:55 PM
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28. If Gore doesn't come in...this DU'er is going to write his name in...and if he
TOTALLY TAKES HIMSELF OUT...I'm a Kucinich voter and will write HIS NAME IN! I'm still a Democrat but my PARTY HAS LEFT ME...they have had chance after chance....I gotta write in the Dem Names that I agree with and VOTE MY CONSCIENCE ...even if it doesn't count..... because somewhere "down the line" SOME DAY...what I did WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 05:59 PM
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30. Count me in KoKo01! nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 07:57 PM
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34. Makes TWO OF US...and THERE ARE HUGE Numbers More!!!
Who have HAD ENOUGH!!!!
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:12 PM
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40. I don't know about you but my tolerance was reached in 2002. nt
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tears4terra Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:23 PM
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58. Make that THREE nt
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:00 PM
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35. SERIOUSLY...you can't make people do things they don't want to do.
You know, I love Al Gore. I support him. Which means I support his decision NOT to run. If he gets in on his own, I am there. All this 'draft Gore' crap just bugs me. Do you honestly think he hasn't figured out that a lot of people really REALLY want him to run?? If he does CHOOSE to run, it isn't going to be because of all of those websites. He might say it is...but it won't be.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:13 PM
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41. How do you know the Internet might not influence his decision?
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 08:15 PM by Uncle Joe
The websites, your speaking of, aren't just empty electrons floating around in space, there's a person behind every keyboard and these websites are becoming the new Town Hall. The only question is, will the new Town Halls grow fast enough to counter balance the power and influence of the corporate media? I believe the corporate media will do their best to insure that someone sympathetic to their cause of information monopoly will come to power. I also believe should they get their candidate of choice in power, they will go after the Internet in one form or another.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:19 PM
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45. Absolutely...
That's why the corporations are sinking so much money into Hillary's campaign. I think Al of all people would be seriously influenced by a grass-roots internet campaign. That's what he's been purporting in his book. That's what he's been trying to do with Current TV. It's about giving we the people a voice again rather than being the corporate oligarchy's bitch.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 04:54 AM
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60. 1952 Dwight D. Eisenhower.
History is a good thing to know.

Besides, he has stated adamantly that he wants back in politics because he's only 59. If he wanted to end any speculation he knows exactly how to do it.

He's a brilliant man. He's not letting it go on for nothing :)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:03 PM
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36. Run Al Run!
Please!!!
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:06 PM
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38. If he's holding out to avoid the dog & pony shows (debates), it's a brilliant plan.
No other candidate has the political heft to do that so maybe he just knows himself better than some of the doubters.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:11 PM
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39. PLEASE run Al!
Please!
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 08:15 PM
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44. Gore Knows This Job Will Be A Big Mess...
He went through one ugly campaign and why would be want to jump into that meatgrinder again? I think he believes that what he's doing now as being an advocate is more beneficial not only for the people of this country but for the entire world. His standing and influence is higher now than it ever was...running would pull him away from his work on the environment that he feels is the most compelling issue we face...not just in the U.S., but worldwide.

Also, whomever the nominee is, he/she is sure to face a major sliming operation that will distort records (hell we're seeing that about Democratic candidates here on DU) and that he'd have to spend all his time fighting off these attacks. Whomever wins will get a bitterly broken and divided country and this person will need both a strong stomache and great managerial skills to try to start setting this country back to respectability.

I could see President Gore being a valuable ally to Senator Clinton in the upcoming campaign (again, no endorsement for Clinton on this end...just going by what the polls keep showing) and under this arrangement he could focus on his issues with an ally in the White House.

As posted upthread, many here see Gore as a saviour...if he was, he would have been elected in 2000 (and I mean won BIG...we should have never needed Florida). That campaign had to have been a major letdown in his life and why would he want to subject himself to all that time, energy and emotion to relive the attacks and heartaches he had then? While I, like many others here, would welcome him into the race and as the nominee, I can also understand why he has no stomache to play all the games that is required to be the guy "people want to have a beer with".
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:14 PM
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50. I agree with you KT...
I have never believed Gore would run. Too much water under the bridge, and he seems to be enjoying the role he's playing now. I would imagine he will be considered an elder statesman by any future Democratic administrations, and he'll probably be satisfied with that. He's got some great ideas, but I doubt he has the stomach to try and implement them. He knows Washington too well.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:16 PM
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52. So, You Think He's At Ease With NEVER Being President??
Let's face it, he might have to wait 8 years to even get another crack this good again, and he might have a VP incumbent to run against, and/or a stronger Obama. He'll also be in his late 60's, so he'll be rapidly running out of time due to age issues.

So, if he's content with the fact he had an election stolen from him, and forever abdicates the possibility of walking into the oval office as President, then I guess he really has given up the political life altogether.
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:59 PM
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47. Super serial? n/t
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:08 PM
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48. k&r.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:09 PM
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49. It's October. He ain't running.
He would not have time to build a presence in Iowa, NH or the Feb. 5 states if he did.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:18 PM
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51. Al Gore/Anybody Else 2008
:)
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:31 PM
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53. I think he's waiting to see if he's the Nobel Peace Laureate.

So, that would make him:

1. Academy Award winning documentarian
2. Emmy Award winning ground-breaking broadcaster
3. Nobel Peace Prize winner

In the same year.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:32 PM
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54. The filing deadline for the NH Primary is November 2
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Seedersandleechers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:09 PM
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56. I want to make a donation
Does anyone know what the money is used for?
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 03:02 PM
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57. I love President Gore
and I'd be thrilled to have another opportunity to vote for him. :toast:

Julie
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