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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 06:42 AM
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She's not inevitable, you know.
Obama leads in Iowa, S. Carolina is close. Clinton's ahead in NH and Nevada.

Anything can happend in the next 100 or so days. It's not remotely a done deal.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 06:49 AM
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1. Let's hope so
Not that her "inevitable" presidency would be the end of times, but for crying out loud, it would be so nice to have some of her supporters her stop acting like rudely aggressive.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 06:54 AM
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2. Yes, I do know that, in fact its not even likely
No matter how you ask the question here (I've tried several ways) the response always comes up the same, about 75% of DUers do not support her.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 06:58 AM
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3. Yeah, but that doesn't mean much.
I don't think DUers are representative of dem primary voters.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:16 AM
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6. I disagree - don't mean I'm right, doesn't mean I'm wrong either
Here's what I disagree about, that we, people who take the time to keep up with the nation's political goings on and other people's opnions about them are the ones who actually vote in Primary Elections. The MSM proclaims her to be the preordained winner to the general population - but what we know about them is that 40% of them don't vote at all. So it seems to me that when its Primary time it is people just like us, not the general population, who's opnions are the ones that really do count. We are the ones who will be out there voting in the Primarys, not all those folks who recognize her name and don't know squat about any of the others.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:54 AM
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14. Reminds me of something I heard at a seminar...
A few weeks ago, I went to a seminar entitled "Women in Politics". One of the speakers was John Bua, former director of the DNC and one of President Clinton's media advisers. One of the first things he said was "I want to say one thing to begin with; We're not normal". Everybody laughed, but then he said, "How many people here have watched C-Span at 3:00 in the morning"? Most of our hands went up. He said; "See? We're not normal".
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:03 AM
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4. Not 'inevitable', just probable.
Can't judge the real-world race by what's said and done DU, since we are decidedly left of liberal.
For a good take on DU v the real world, have a good look at the DU actblue page, and compare those results against national polling.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:05 AM
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5. You're right.
The republicans want us to think that. This will rally them to get out the vote because they hated Bill Clinton (for being an effective president) and to them she is a female version of him so they hate her even more. Obama and Edwards and all the rest still have a chance.

And the one who would really be a great president is Dennis Kucinich.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:21 AM
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7. I like some of Dennis' ideas very much, but
if by some chance he actually made it to the WH, he'd be mangled by D.C. big time. He'd get very little accomplished domestically.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:31 AM
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8. Time Is Running Out
My junior Senator probably didn't do himself much good in the last debate and Edwards is having money troubles and has been sliding in Iowa over the past couple weeks. No it's not inevitable, but money and organization win elections and Senator Clinton has run a very good campaign so far. The one thing that could hurt Hillary is if there's an attack on Iran and her vote to approve this action could hurt her badly. No it's not a done deal, but these candidates have been pumping for the votes now for nearly a year and if one hasn't made the move yet, it better happen now.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:32 AM
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9. bs
she's been annointed, and no one can stop her. mwah ha ha ha ha
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:56 AM
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15. Who annoited her ?
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:27 AM
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17. dick morris?
:shrug:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:39 AM
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10. I thought John Edwards was leading in Iowa?
Strange...
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:13 AM
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16. Hell, I thought he was leading everywhere ....
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:41 AM
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11. Yes, I know.
Since no caucus has been held, and no primary vote cast, no one is actually "leading" anything at this point.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:44 AM
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12. Right.
Of course, her campaign is going to try to make it seem that way. It's their job to do exactly that. But the state-by-state breakdown shows everyone familiar with primary contests that, while Senator Clinton is doing well, it's still an open contest.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 07:44 AM
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13. Yeah, here's a thought
If we all vote for someoine else maybe she won't win. Personally I think Hils name has already been prgrammed into the machines as our next president, but that's the tin foiler in me thinking aloud again.
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