I believe Anita Hill. I believe IN Anita Hill.

[CatWoman]

If Clarence Thomas told me that it was raining outside, I'd have to personally go out and check for myself.

[fasttense]

1. If he told me the sky is blue, I would believe it was red. n/t

[shain from kane]

2. If he told me there was a pubic hair on his can of Coke, I'd believe that it was a Pepsi.

[aquart]

3. I never want to meet the idiot who believes his self-pitying lies.

He has no pity for anyone else. Empathy free, like our George.

I suspect his fantasies about this book will not be fulfilled.

[Cha]

5. Yeah, that's a good one..Keep

me away from idiots who aren't able to discern that the supreme court justice, appointed by bushI, is a lying sack of shite.

[mainer]

4. I've met Anita Hill. She's absolutely believable.

And the fact David Brock apologized to her reinforces the fact she was telling the truth all along.

[aquart]

10. I never for a second doubted her.

I worked in offices. I knew exactly why she stayed. A senior vice president of Sterling Bank once tried to give me to a client. He made me sit in his office while he booked prostitutes (only the best, btw. I know because NY Magazine did an expose and I recognized the address). He gave me copies of Playboy in a Manilla envelope to take home. I stayed. Talking your way out of that kind of harassment (a concept that didn't even exist then)nicely was standard equipment for a working woman (I swear to God, I told him I just couldn't because I was still in love with my previous boss).

When I listened to those middle-aged males spouting that pietistic phony outrage and concern, I realized I had no representation in Congress and started voting for women in every local election that came up. Start at the bottom and train them up.

[Tyler Durden]

6. Can't WAIT to see this one in the Discount Bin...

Right next to TREASON and CULTURE WARRIOR. Just a matter of time, because REAL readers do not read TRIPE.

[MotorCityMan]

7. I completely believed Anita Hill over Thomas

Anita Hill was very believable. I used to tell people at the time "Why should she lie about this?" She did not really gain anything by coming forward, and she had to know that her name would get dragged through the mud.

At the time of the hearings, my boss in a staff meeting went around the table and asked everyone whether they believed Ms. Hill or Thomas (which I thought was kind of inappropriate). I was the only male there that believed Ms. Hill. I was shocked.

Clarence needs to "get over it" and "move on". He has got this ridiculous chip on on his shoulder 20 years later and sounds like a damn teenager.

[kskiska]

8. I just read "Supreme Discomfort" - the Divided Soul of Clarence Thomas

His old friends and co-workers immediately recognized the Coke can story - he'd used it before in the office. It was also no secret that he watched more than his share of porn movies and talked about them constantly. I remember how during his confirmation hearings, the clerk at the video store he frequented verified his rentals.

Anita was not lying. Thomas' behavior was just as repugnant as Bill O'Reilly's toward Andrea Makris.

[CTyankee]

12. He also skipped out on paying his personal property tax on his car when he was in New Haven.

Then suddenly, years later just before his nomination he paid up real fast! As a taxpayer in New Haven, I haven't forgotten that one!

[kskiska]

20. On the subject of Connecticut taxes

Dick Morris is a notorious tax scofflaw living in Redding.

I lived most of my life in Norwalk, by the way.

[CTyankee]

26. Ugh, Dick MOrris is in MY state!

Norwalk is in a nice part of the state. Where do you live now?

[kskiska]

36. South Carolina

The congestion up there is horrible and even if I wanted to come back (which I tried once) the housing costs make it impossible.

Morris lives in a woodsy lower-priced small town (for the area). I have to wonder why he doesn't pay his taxes.

[CTyankee]

37. Yes, CT has the highest taxes I think of any state.

It used to be worth it to live here, before there was a state income tax. But I still love it here, particularly New Havenwhere I live. You get a world class cultural city due to a world class university and hospital.

[Bitwit1234]

9. She wasn't the only one who complained

about the sexual harassment in their office. But at the last minute the other women backed down. I guess they saw the way Anita Hill was treated and the got cold feet.

And it wasn't only the republicans, it was the men in the democratic party also.

[JHB]

19. As I remember it, Angela Wright didn't "back down"...

...the session was running up against some deadline so she agreed to have her testimony entered into the record without directly going before the senators. But since this was Washingtonland, the fact that she hadn't gone on-camera meant she didn't exist: her testimony could be (and was) ignored.


I'm of the opinion that in never should have come down to Anita Hill: Thomas wasn't (and still isn't) qualified to be on the SCOTUS, but too many Democrats (even the "liberal" ones) were once again capitulating to a Republican power-play. It was only after someone blew the whistle on a hot-button issue for a liberal base group that they were pressured into taking a second look (and even then, it was more like going through the motions of one).

[Delphinus]

50. Thanks for the reminder -

I had forgotten that the male dems were, more or less, taking his side.

[Evergreen Emerald]

56. Joe Biden was the most vocal

And I cannot support him now because of his betrayal of Anita Hill.

[donsu]

11. I believe in Anita too - and laugh in the face of woman hater Clarence

men hate women who laugh at them. women get killed for laughing at men. (known fact)

[Deep13]

13. If Thomas told me water is good, I'd stop bathing.

I believe Hill too.

[Midlodemocrat]

14. Never doubted her for a minute. He's a lying POS.

[hlthe2b]

15. ditto...

I'd like to see a poll taken now, along with age/gender, racial, and political affiliation breakdowns....I'm betting the % that do not believe Clarence would be fairly equal across the board...(at least for Dems and Independents).

[KingFlorez]

16. I believe her too

A person like Clarence Thomas never tells the truth.

[Marlie]

17. I felt so sorry for Anita Hill

The all male judiciary committee, led by Joe Biden, were pretty merciless. The guy thing was
obvious, they were in Thomas's corner, no doubt. Really sickening. She was so courageous and landed up becoming a victim.

[Karenina]

18. Excuse me, Anita Hill is no victim.

YES, the patriarchal structure did their BEST to victimize her but ANYONE possessing two brain cells to rub together KNOWS the REALITY.
Thank you, David Brock, for confirming it.

[Marlie]

27. The Trouble is

Lots of the people watching those hearings didn't possess too many brain cells and believed
Thomas, the boys club and not Anita Hill. Instead of Thomas's reputation being ruined, hers was. He
was confirmed wasn't he? She went on with her life and is a very successful woman but at the
time of the hearings, it must have been a nightmare for her. Did you watch the hearings? I did and
it wasn't pretty.

[defendandprotect]

22. Sen. John Danforth said he'd still support Clarence even if Hill was telling the truth!!!

How's that for "guys all together"?

he was a Senator at the time and a big supporter of Thomas . . .
as it became clearer that Prof. Anita Hill was a substantially truthful witness, Danforth assured Thomas that even if he had done this, he would support him!!! This, in the back rooms.

Unfortunately, thought I owned the book "Strange Justice" but turns out I don't . . .
so I can't quote directly -- check out the book and this report for yourself.

Danforth a questionable character and still around somewhere ---

Fortunately, the women in the USHR at least got this to a hearing --
and it's on the record.

C-span should play the whole thing this weekend in reponse to Thomas million $ book ---

[shain from kane]

23. Danforth wants to take part of the riverfront national park where the Arch is located in St. Louis,

and hand it over to commercial interests.

[defendandprotect]

33. He's a nasty word . . .. Thomas also did him some kind of a favor with his family business . . ..

Dog chow company?

[Marlie]

30. Simply Unbelievable

Danforth, just another Republican idiot who moves on to become an ambassador after retiring from
the Senate. Go figure.

[defendandprotect]

34. You keep moving up the people you trust . . .. in crime families!!!

[watercolors]

21. I watched those hearings and

believe Anita Hill. I can remember how angry I was with all the men at the hearings. It was a disgusting show of chauvinistic arrogance!

[Parche]

24. I Thought You Liked Long Dong Silver

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hi:

OH MEOW

[Swamp Rat]

25. I believe Anita Hill.

Period.

[ismnotwasm]

28. Oh hell yes

I remember those day, I remember waiting for the transcript of the hearings to come out. Never doubted her, never had a reason to consider doubting her.

Thomas disgusted me then, and he disgusts me now.

[immoderate]

29. Even those who believe Clarence Thomas know he's lying.

It's a Republican thing.

--IMM

[defendandprotect]

35. Oh, you so aptly sum up a distorted reality -- wonderful!!!! Thank you!!!!!

Even those who believe Clarence Thomas know he's lying.

It's a Republican thing.

I wish they had some decent smilies here --
you'd get lots --

[immoderate]

40. Thanks. I see this behavior all the time. Usually about Bush.

It's pretty scary to me. :scared: <== That smilie, though inelegant, is pretty useful.

It's easy to see why Thomas gives no interviews. His discourse is vapid and dull. His remarks about his upbringing, his guilt about leaving seminary, his ultimate sellout, do not reassure me about his stability or judgment.

--IMM

[Jade Fox]

47. The Republican world view is finally clarified!!

thank you!

[spanone]

31. i never understood why she would lie about something like that. makes no sense

clarence 'stupid is as stupid does' thomas

[kwassa]

32. Thomas, who preaches against victimology, plays victim himself

Clarence has a ton of self-pity going on there.

His logic is so confused, his race and lynching metaphors all mixed-up. He really is the ultimate example of what he claims to deplore, someone promoted to a place not based on merit but on politics.

[bunkerbuster1]

38. I knew that the moment I heard the phrase "High Tech Lynching"...

My first thought was, "motherfucker, REAL people DIED when lynched."

His confirmation hearings were just the equivalent of a tough series of job interviews. Nothing nastier than what any number of Americans have had to endure en route to a better gig.

What a whiner.

[Flying Dream Blues]

52. Excellent point! nt

[bunkerbuster1]

39. I have every reason to believe Anita Hill

If David Brock's confessional over having unfairly smeared her back in the day isn't enough to convince, you just aren't paying attention.

[Mabus]

41. I've always believed Anita Hill

and I always will.

[ThomCat]

42. The treatment Anita Hill was given convinced me

that a lot of people are willing to believe almost anything at the expense of women. x(

People who were not even republican were participating in trashing her, when I thought it was obvious that she was telling the truth and she was being trashed for political reasons.

[jgraz]

43. We need to find the video and transcripts of Thomas' confirmation hearings

I'm sure at this point we'll be able to find some impeachable perjury there.

[Hepburn]

44. Clarence Thomas is a putrid bag of shit....

....and that is the best part of him.

I would not believe that lying SOB no matter what he told me. He is a disgrace ~~ a complete and total disgrace. The worst part? He was supposedly the replacement for Thurgood Marshall. Fuck that shit.



RIP Justice Marshall ~~ too bad there are not more justices like you on the USSC....we need them so badly right now to protect us and our rights.

All of the above is IMO, of course.

[TahitiNut]

65. Absolutely! That Thomas occupies Justice Marshal's seat is an obscenity!

Thurgood Marshall was a towering example of integrity and conscience. He was an absloutely extraordinary man.

RIP, Justice Marshall ... we didn't deserve you. :cry:

[Hekate]

45. Amen.

[Pachamama]

46. I agree 100% - I also have a former Professor who is a good personal friend and he knows Anita Hill

(and he is a black man and lawyer) and he says there is absolutely not a question or any doubt in his mind that what Anita Hill said about Clarence Thomas was true. He said to me that she had integrity and was very honest and shy and he said it took a lot of strength and courage for her to come forward. He has always felt she was treated wrong and that Clarence Thomas should never had been approved to the Supreme Court.

When I watched 60 minutes last night and saw that pig talking and acting so self righteous, the only thing I wished was that Anita Hill could summon the courage to take on that son of a bitch again.

:grr:

[Skidmore]

48. Roses to Ms. Hill, anyone? Or maybe donations to an

organization providing services to harrassed and abused women in her honor?

[Katherine Brengle]

51. Good idea.

[Alameda]

58. I remember too....roses for Anita...good

I watched that hearing...and believed her 100%. In those days (and even now somewhat)you just smiled sweetly, thought of something clever to say and tried to get out of the way........ARGH!!!If you got groped, you acted like it didn't happen.

Anita Hill was treated very badly and I'd go for sending roses to her.

[Katherine Brengle]

49. Amen and seconded.

Scumbag.

[Gabi Hayes]

53. revisiting this disgusting story is making me ill. remember this guy?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20010904/ai_n13922469

WASHINGTON--It was the morning of Oct. 10, 1991, and Terry Wooten, the senior counsel to the Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee, was a Senate staffer deposing Angela Wright over the telephone after she joined law professor Anita Hill in making allegations against their former boss at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas.

"Now, the term 'boobs' came up?" Wooten asked Wright. "Is that a term that he used when he spoke to you?"

"No, actually that is a term that I am using," Wright replied. "Actually, what he said was, 'What size are your breasts?' " The question came up, she said, while they were attending a seminar for the EEOC.


A decade after the Thomas confirmation hearings, Wooten is coming under scrutiny as a federal judge nominee for the U.S. District Court in South Carolina.

His chief accuser is reporter David Brock, who claims that not only was Wooten busily trying to discredit Wright as a committee lawyer, but to reporters as well--slipping Wright's FBI files to Brock, who was at work on his 1993 book The Real Anita Hill.

[EFerrari]

54. This went down when I was in grad school. My whole department

supported Anita Hill.

[Scout]

55. i believe her too

i saw her speak in person one time, at Wayne State University.

She seemed to me to be a very serene person, among her other good qualities.

[Zomby Woof]

57. Hell yes

It was due to her courage that I first heard of that rat bastard Rush Pillboy. This wingnut in one of my classes at school was fond of quoting him and his "Anita Hill Updates". :puke:

He is the most shameful SCOTUS justice since Roger Taney.

[Maat]

59. I never doubted her story.

Sending positive energy to Professor Hill, so that the fact of this joke (Thomas) making the media rounds doesn't distress her.

[Neecy]

60. It's stunning, really

Thomas is dragging up something that completely damages his credibility - why? I guess he can't pass up another opportunity to smear Anita Hill...he called her 'treasonous' this week. It's funny what they consider treason, isn't it? I thought treason applied to treason against the United States and not the Republican party - how pre-9/11 I am.

Btw, I read Hill's book a few years ago. She's really quite brilliant and as she told the story of the hearings I wondered how she lived through that shit without her head exploding. She's a better woman than I, and to be smeared (again) by the likes of Thomas is sickening.

[Der Blaue Engel]

61. I believe Anita, too.

I always wanted one of those bumper stickers. I still see them from time to time: "I believe you, Anita." This thread has really brought back some memories. :(

[Manifestor_of_Light]

62. The gender disconnect was amazing.

I remember watching it on TV.

The men I knew said, "Why didn't she leave her job? Why did she put up with that if it was so bad?".

The women said, "Yeah, I know what she's been through. Yup, I know why she kept her job. She didn't want to starve."

And Thurgood Marshall had the best line of all:

He told Clarence, "Boy, you ain't fit to shine my shoes.". True story.

[pitohui]

63. i do too cat EOM

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[TahitiNut]

64. You and me both, m'luv. She's a role model for all of us.

Good looking on top of it! (Yeow!)

:bounce:

[blogslut]

66. I always believed Anita Hill

Always

[calimary]

67. I still support her, too. Til the bitter end.

Like I'm going to take ANYTHING he says seriously.

[Forkboy]

68. I only remember her from the orange juice commercials, but yeah, she was ok.

:hide:

[Oilwellian]

69. Me too Cat

She's a damn fine woman and an inspiration to many.