the importance of neckties

[donsu]

a woman caller on Wash. Journal this morning said that we couldn't believe what Ahmadinejad said because he didn't wear a tie. if he had worn one then we might believe him.

it's pitiful how ignorant many americans are.

did one of the neo con radio mouths talk about him not wearing a tie, I wonder.

[liberal N proud]

1. How many speeches has pissypants given with no neck tie?

And all the little sheep believed him each and every time.

[Kingshakabobo]

4. Yeah, but dear leader makes it up with profuse sweating.

[Romulox]

2. So a leader of a country gets on stage and says, "We have no homosexuals in Iran"

and the US caller who wants to see the tie is the ignorant one.

:silly:

[donsu]

5. yes - did you notice he grinned when he said no gays in Iran?

nt

[Romulox]

6. So the grin saves the unmitigated nonsense he was spouting?

Right. I bet the caller was making a winking face on the phone too...:eyes:

[donsu]

8. no, it showed he didn't believe his own lie

and the woman on the phone was too uptight to wink

[Romulox]

10. And yet he didn't have the shame not to lie directly into the camera...

I think you are defending the indefensible.

Of course he didn't believe his own lie. And he knew we would not either. That he said it anyway is a sign of arrogance and contempt, not cunning. Declaring the world conforms to your ideology, then grinning while hanging any counter-examples is not especially nuanced behavior.

[hlthe2b]

9. Get a grip....

sooooo, NOT the point of this posting...:eyes:

[Romulox]

11. Yeah, I know. The point of this posting is to point out the "ignorance" of some random American

while defending the brutality and hatefulness of the Iranian President. Got it. :silly:

[donsu]

13. she wasn't a random american, she was a c-span caller

not random at all.

she spoke ignorance

I think neckties have become albatrosses

[Romulox]

18. How is a CSPAN caller NOT a "random American"? Was Hillary with a handkerchief over the receiver?

:rofl:

[hlthe2b]

16. Pavlov ....

Seems the RW has been successful in associating the very word/name Ahmadinejad with a salivating reflexive response. I guess if they manage to get another 20 or 30% to reflexively respond this way then war with Iran is inevitable... I for one do not intend to buy into yet another Bush* created boogie man. Yeh, Ahmadinejad is a raging bigoted idiot, but we are only creating a support base for him in Iran (where he is NOT popular) by our reactions. The world is full of bigoted asshole leaders--many are cruel despots. SOme are very unpredictable, yet really could anhilate the world with nuclear or bioweapons. Yet, it seems they are not as convenient for the Pavlovian "boogie man" response....:eyes:

[Romulox]

17. The irony of your post is that NONE of that was occasioned by either the caller's comment

or my response.

Rail against war with Iran, but use cogent points. Not some inanity spouted by a CSPAN caller.

[hlthe2b]

19. ......

:rofl:

What was that? I dare say I hear your Master's voice calling.... !

[Romulox]

24. So I guess I shouldn't hold my breath for the cogent points?

You almost got him! Just a couple more whacks!

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[Romulox]

26. LOL. Now criticism of Iran is Bad. Unless the chickenhawk in question is Hillary?

At least you're inconsistent! :rofl:

Hillary Clinton voted in favor of the Kyl-Lieberman amendment to press the army toward war with Iran. This was an important step, for her, and a vote as closely considered as her vote to authorize the bombing and occupation of Iraq.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/hillary-clinton-votes-for_b_66174.html

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[Romulox]

28. So when YOU criticize Hillary, it's cool, but when others do it, it's "talking points"?

Makes no sense, but ok... :silly:

[hlthe2b]

29. When combined with the other well-known regurgitated set

of RW talking points, let's just say it raises the suspicion meter...

But, I did not diss Hillary, now did I? hmmm?

There is a considerable difference between not supporting and attacking her.

[Romulox]

30. HILLARY WAS THE ONLY DEM TO VOTE FOR KYL-LIEBERMAN...

You are trying to argue out of both sides of your mouth on this one. Hillary supports war on Iran, not me! :rofl:

[hlthe2b]

32. Hon, you best go check in with the mother ship to gain some

talking points. Subtlety, my dear...... I know, I know, it is SO hard for some to learn. Just wait for that bell. :evilgrin:

[Romulox]

33. troll...nt

[hlthe2b]

34. now, now, now...

That's not the way to hang around long term... That'll get ya a dirt nap for sure...


Geez ya spend time trying har to "learn em" some survival skills and they just won't listen.... .:rofl:

[Romulox]

37. Calling people Republicans, Limbot, etc. is also against the rules.

Ooops! :silly:

[hlthe2b]

38. ahh, contrar...

never once did I call you or any other DUer anything of the kind.....

But, are you now self-identifying? :shrug:

[Romulox]

40. I think you need more attention than I can give you. Last response.

[hlthe2b]

41. Bye now.....

Remember your lessons now, though....:evilgrin:

[hlthe2b]

35. now, now, now...

That's not the way to hang around long term... That'll get ya a dirt nap for sure...


Geez ya spend time trying hard to "learn em" some survival skills and they just won't listen.... .:rofl:

[MADem]

3. The 'national costume' over there is a Persianized suit. It has a shirt that

doesn't require a necktie. In fact, you can't wear one with that particular shirt.

Sometimes, fellahs wear the western shirts, and some of them go for the ties. But they're the minority.

The guy's an asshole, but the lack of a tie isn't relevant to that fact. Nor is the 'more Islamic' facial fur, either.

[hlthe2b]

7. Oh, Lordy.....

Well, as to bow ties (to change the subject slightly), the wearer who I would never disbelieve is former Boston Globe reporter/columnist (and treasure), Tom Oliphant. By contrast, the wearer I could never believe is (of course) Tucker Carlson.

So, I'm guessing the tie really does NOT make the man, eh?

[SoCalDem]

12. Righwingers must stay up all night long composing their wacky phone calls

:)

[spanone]

14. i always thought ties were a manifestation of a mans 'manliness'

[woodsprite]

15. Neckties are just fashionable nooses - now who has the common sense? n/t

[porphyrian]

20. "...so, if she weighs as much as a duck, she's made of wood..." - n/t

[immoderate]

21. Everyone should have a 50$ piece of silk...

to protect his shirt from soup.

--IMM

[RiverStone]

22. I learned a long time ago...

That the more I have to wear ties, the more unhappy I am with my job.

Damn good thing I only "have to" wear a tie now 2-3 times per year :)

(public speaking/awards presentations)

And those ties are silly, colorful, cartoonish ties at that!

My goal = a zero tie life.

[MindPilot]

23. I'm firmly convinced that anyone who is comfortable in a suit

is probably into BDSM.

I wonder sometimes who decided that a brightly-colored piece of fabric tightly fastened about the throat is a symbol of authority, wisdom and leadership.

[backscatter712]

31. I like this line of thought on suits and ties...

From The Jargon File

suit: n.

1. Ugly and uncomfortable ‘business clothing’ often worn by non-hackers. Invariably worn with a ‘tie’, a strangulation device that partially cuts off the blood supply to the brain. It is thought that this explains much about the behavior of suit-wearers. Compare droid.

2. A person who habitually wears suits, as distinct from a techie or hacker. See pointy-haired, burble, management, Stupids, SNAFU principle, PHB, and brain-damaged.

[Mike03]

36. Feminist View of Ties?

My ex-wife took a class in Feminism, and she told me that one theory about neck ties is that their symbolic significance, either consciously or subconsciously, is that they point towards the male genitalia, like an arrow. On most men, hair also grows that way, a line from the abdomen down to the pubic bone. This class was taught at a very well regarded private university, by the way. I was more convinced by the hair aspect than the tie aspect, but I toss this in for what it's worth.

[Sequoia]

39. I have a story for you

Where I worked the sales manager told one of the sales guys, "Don't speak to me until you put on a tie."

And, then another day during a conference room meeting:

MGR: "Where's your tie"

Guy: "I forgot to put it on."

MGR: "Next time wear it, or don't come to the meeting."

[PDenton]

42. But, of course, you can believe Bush

because he wears one?