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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:59 AM Original message |
Marijuana Laws Cost Taxpayers $41 Billion a Year |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Heck, we could pay for the Iraq war for a couple months with that $$$ |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. and have money left over to pay for health care |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. nevermind... |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #1 |
80. Stop making sense! Ops, I made a play on words! |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'll kick that. - n/t |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. This does not include losses due to prohibition of hemp agriculture. |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 06:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
77. "Industrial Hemp Movement Growing" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
102. Also good for Ozone -- and we can't even have rayon clothing here!!! |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. What a waste of time and money.. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. That's so pretty... - n/t |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. ..but very very EVIL. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. That's OK, the bong I have in hell will be, too. - n/t |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
53. Whodathunk God would create something so evil... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. a real beauty... |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Early Purple Mazari-Sharif.. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. The Widow smells like apples cooking while she cures. |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The White Widow is quite popular here as well.. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Looking for non-smoking pot inhalation. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. You're thinking of vaporizers. They work quite well. |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. Naw... |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. DIY vapes are about $10. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 03:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
71. There's always brownies! |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 06:43 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Never worked for me. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. the white widow is one dynamite lady.. |
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RufusEarl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Makes my eyes red just looking at it ! |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
42. Don't look here if you don't want more red eyes |
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RufusEarl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
86. Thanks for the link, now i'm totally blind! |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Sweet! |
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angel823 (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. it's got to be |
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sbyte (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
67. Look how much bio fuel oil this plant makes! |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 07:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
78. Now THAT is a thing of beauty! |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
96. okay, a stupid question |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. so it doesn't mean anything? n/t |
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appal_jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. In other words... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. On top of that, pot could, and most likely would, be taxed, increasing the numbers again. |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Now you're just thinking |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I try hard not to, but it just happens... |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I knew this would happen |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Law enforcement, the prison industrial complex and the black market are the ones who profit... |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. I could not agree more |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. The thing is that MOST people feel the same. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
55. Another reason "they" won't allow legalization... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. I'd love to hit Big Pharma... - n/t |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. Don't forget Big Pharma! |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Yeah, they suck too. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #32 |
84. Don't forget the drug testing industry, the drug dog industry.,.. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #84 |
94. Smaller players, but players all the same. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. I think it blocks absorption of Kool Aid into our systems... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Heh, that question could mean a number of things. - n/t |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
83. Do you know if there is a test that indicates if you are under the influence of MJ |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-03-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #83 |
106. Standard sobriety test would show if you're impaired... |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
8. Lame ass politicians support the drug war |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. while the OP makes a good point... |
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appal_jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. tax stamps could be a limited revenue tool for the gov't |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. my path was just the opposite... |
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appal_jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. word |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 04:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
73. Welcome neighbor - joining you in hoping we'd get some |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
95. the beginning of a new U.S. export economy |
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AlecBGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
11. WOW |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. And it's probably safe to assume that the real number is double that. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. It costs us more than $$, it costs us our freedom -- legalize marijuana --- |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. Exactly why it won't be made legal |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. The lost tax amount is somewhat circular... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. We're not trying to gain it as profit, but to stop it as loss. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
18. Legalize it, Regulate it, and Tax it. |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
27. while were at it |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
28. About $600 for a family of four. NOPE. Not worth it. LEGALIZE IT. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
30. Sen. Grassley/C-SPAN 2 right now discussing marijuana -- |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
59. Sen. GRASSley is against MJ.. Figures. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
87. Just a guy trying to live down his name . . .. |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
36. Meanwhile, more than 800,000 marijuana arrests last year... |
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Ariana Celeste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I was one of them. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. illustrating who's making the real profits in the WOD.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
88. Hard to say whether the Drug War is more about $ or intimidation . . ... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
39. I think that's about how much a friend of mine spends on it a year as well. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
44. When will we declare war on cluster bombs, depleted uranium? |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
47. Legalize and Tax it make the most logical sense. n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
89. Ah, but you'd be shifting profit from irreputable sources to reputable ones -- !!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. delete |
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otherlander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
48. forty one billion... |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
49. I'd gladly pay a tax on it if it meant going to a safe, reliable establishment to buy it. |
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Ariana Celeste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
50. kick n/t |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
51. Huh. I would have thought it would be higher than that. nt |
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ms liberty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
64. KR&B - Thanks for posting! Excellent info.n/t |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
65. That would by a lot of Weed....What a waste of $$$ |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
66. I agree with proposal for less Jail time for possession. We would save billions on Jail time. But |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-03-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #66 |
103. you are forgetting the elections were stolen? |
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Oldenuff (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
68. If I'm not mistaken... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
69. Before reading any previous posts, here's my .02 |
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LaStrega (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
70. Oh. My. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
72. Stop the Drug War Now. |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 04:30 AM Response to Original message |
74. $41 billion could almost pay for a gauranteed basic income |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
76. Make a law, make a business. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. That reminds me of a fellow DUer's signature line. |
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harlinchi (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
79. But what will be used to criminalize Black behavior? |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. A town down south is trying to make baggy pants / visible undies |
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harlinchi (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I cannot defend those sartorial choices for aesthetic reasons, |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Or the kids in the hood could wear stars and bars boxer shorts |
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harlinchi (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. Manufactured by a Black owned company! Boy that would chafe... |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-03-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #93 |
107. Time to email FUBU |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
91. It's also training us all to be OBEDIENT . . . . and the costs are very high, indeed!!! |
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ThePowerofWill (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
97. I have a problem with this part. |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. How many would grow their own? |
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ThePowerofWill (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Yup, |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-03-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Yup, back at you! Its all about profit,$$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-03-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #99 |
108. But, aren't "market forces" the be all end all of our western civilization? |
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Lost4words (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-03-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #97 |
105. That is very insightful, may I use this? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-02-07 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
101. Drug War/Marijuana is another subject which gets very light treatment in campaigns -- |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-03-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. Kucinich has said in past campaigns to legalize or decriminalize it. |
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