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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:49 PM
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Is Freedom’s Watch PNAC in populist drag?
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 01:45 PM by sfexpat2000
(I put this together from the info on babylonsister's thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1941046
Feedback always appreciated. ef)


Is Freedom’s Watch PNAC in populist drag?

According to the AP, Freedom’s Watch is new conservative group of “outsiders” who seek to influence a broad range of issues, unlike their close cousins, the Swiftboaters, who focused only on smearing John Kerry. But, the roster of PNACers involved in this project – L. Scooter Libby, Mary Maitlan, consultants from the so called “think tank” the American Enterprise Institute, as well as former White House officials Ari Fleisher and Bradley Blakeman, begs the question in what sense can this group be called “outsiders”. Outside of the West wing or, outside of the Bush Cabinet? Or, maybe only outside of public view?

This White House front group is dominated by people close to Dick Cheney, like Mel Sembler who also chaired the Libby defense fund and Kevin E. Moley who was a senior aide to Cheney’s 2000 campaign. It has been reported that the idea for the group resulted from a meeting of Florida Republicans where Cheney was the keynote speaker.

Freedom’s Watch has been selling itself as a grassroots organization although anyone who can read can determine very quickly that it isn’t. Their website exhibits none of the messiness of a working grassroots enterprise – in fact, it looks somewhat uninhabited. Their stated goals echo White House rhetoric, down to their favorite metaphor. As Glenn Greenwald has pointed out, our new enemy is Hitler, we are fighting another World War II and anyone who disagrees with their imperialism is Chamberlain. (They really need to come up with a new vehicle because this one is a dead giveaway.)

The group’s grassroots window dressing is being validated by the AP and also by the New York Times, who seem strangely unable to distinguish between real grassroots and neoconservative astroturf. Both outlets have compare\d Freedom’s Watch to MoveOn, a real grassroots group, repeatedly. Over this last weekend, AOL had a poll up comparing the two groups. The AP has referred to these two organizations as left and right “bookends” which is patently untrue. MoveOn has about 3.3 million members. It is unknown how many members Freedom’s Watch has besides the original 20 who could write million dollar checks.

The group’s first effort was an ad ostensibly to rally support for Bush’s failed Iraq policy. The ad used the Administration’s strategy of conflating Iraq with 9/11 and used a veteran, (an amputee) as the mouthpiece for the message just as the Administration has from the outset used our service people as props for their public statements.

During the visit of the Iranian president, the group took out a big ad in the New York Times. The ad was a photograph of Ahmadinejad, the tile was “TERRORIST!” and the ad ripped Columbia University. A complaint from Freedom’s Watch was also behind the Time’s apology for the MoveOn Petraeus ad. It’s ironic that the Times apologized for an ad critical of a general officer up to his chin in Bush propaganda but not for the ad that called out a foreign head of state during an increasingly tense diplomatic moment.

Freedom’s Watch is planning a forum, in conjunction with AEI fellows, to develop the rationale and a PR campaign to sell a war on Iran. This is a private, not a public grassroots, gathering -- although there may be foie de gras and a few rounds of golf. If this isn’t PNAC in populist drag, it’s doing a remarkably good impression.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:52 PM
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1. As soon as they call for the bombing of Iran, we'll know for sure.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:56 PM
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2. They've planned a conference to sell us on exactly that.
I think we can know now. That's why I wanted to put this together and get it published. The more eyes on these @ssholes, the better.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:05 PM
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3. Most of the PNAC clan are now at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies,
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 01:06 PM by greyhound1966
and they've been joined by many of the saboteurs from the Democratic party that got us here.

Here's a http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm">link to their biographies page, you will no doubt recognize many of the names.




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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:08 PM
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5. hoo boy!
That's a right nasty nest of neo-cons they got there...reeealy stinky.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:10 PM
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6. Thank you! I'll go read!
:hi:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:07 PM
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4. AIE and PNAC had the same operators
Freedom Watch came out of the AIE . . . quack.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:10 PM
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7. They're an incestuous little knot of criminals. Thanks, bigtree. n/t
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:49 PM
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11. 2002-2003
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 01:49 PM by bigtree
US Government Works on Plans for Post-War Iraq

The Bush administration develops plans for post-war Iraq. But the process is plagued with infighting between a small, highly secretive group of planners in the Pentagon and experts at the CIA and State Department who are involved with the “Future of Iraq Project”. The two opposing groups disagree on a wide range of topics, but it is the Pentagon group which exerts the strongest influence on the White House’s plans (see Fall 2002) for administering post-Saddam Iraq. One State Department official complains to The Washington Post in October 2002 “that the Pentagon is seeking to dominate every aspect of Iraq’s postwar reconstruction.”

The group of Pentagon planners includes several noted neoconservatives who work in, or in association with, the Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans (see September 2002) and the Near East/South Asia bureau. The planners have close ties to the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), two think tanks with a shared vision of reshaping the geopolitical landscape of the Middle East in favor of US and Israeli interests. The Pentagon planning group “had a visionary strategy that it hoped would transform Iraq into an ally of Israel, remove a potential threat to the Persian Gulf oil trade and encircle Iran with US friends and allies . . .

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq_353#complete_timeline_of_the_2003_invasion_of_iraq_353


Bill Kristol (a founder of PNAC and one of th main instigators of the Iraq invasion) looks a lot like the culprit in this new WH plan to attack Iran's Revolutionary Guard. He called for the strikes on the IRG earlier this month.

Terrorist Training Camps in Iran
Should they be safe havens?
by William Kristol
09/05/2007
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/061vrvwi.asp


Kristol, in 2006, said Sy Hersh was "Scaring People Away From ‘Limited and Credible Military Option Against Iran"
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/10/kristol-hersh/
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:52 PM
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12. The Iranian Time Bomb
The Iranian Time Bomb

BOOK FORUM

Start: Monday, September 10, 2007 2:00 PM

End: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:30 PM

Location: Wohlstetter Conference Center, Twelfth Floor, AEI
1150 Seventeenth Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20036
Directions to AEI

Iran has now taken its rightful place at the center of our debate on the war. Hardly a day goes by without new revelations about Iran?s penetration of Iraq either by supplying weapons, money, guidance, and intelligence to both Sunni and Shiite terrorists, or, in some cases, sending soldiers from the Quds Force--an elite unit within Iran?s Revolutionary Guard--to confront American and Iraqi forces. And in the background we hear the leitmotif of the Iranian nuclear program, which continues apace despite international sanctions and negotiations.

An intensified debate has resulted: Is our current strategy adequate? Should we be more vigorous in confronting the Islamic Republic or should we--as under secretary of state for political affairs R. Nicholas Burns has recently argued--continue to use diplomacy as the primary component of our Iran policy? If we decide to take more active measures, what should they be?

In his latest book, The Iranian Time Bomb: The Mullah Zealots' Quest for Destruction
(St. Martin?s Press, September 2007), AEI Freedom Scholar Michael A. Ledeen reviews the history of Iran?s long-standing war against the West and discusses American policy toward Iran from the fall of the shah to the present. He analyzes the Iranian regime?s treatment of its own citizens, presents a detailed assessment of the mullahs? vision of the future, and proposes an effective strategy for thwarting their global ambitions.

Former CIA director R. James Woolsey and Cliff May of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, will join Michael A. Ledeen in discussing these and other questions upon which so much of America?s future depends.


1:45 p.m. Registration

2:00 Speakers: Michael A. Ledeen, AEI
Cliff May, Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
R. James Woolsey, former CIA director


3:30
Adjournment


http://www.aei.org/events/eventID.1565,filter.all/event_detail.asp#

I'm watching the video on line right now.

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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:53 PM
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13. Couldn't have said it any better myself.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:23 PM
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8. kick for responses
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:38 PM
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9. More info on Freedom's Watch
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:44 PM
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10. Thank you.
:hi:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 01:56 PM
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14. more here
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:02 PM
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15. more ties (Kristol)
August 23, 2007
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies Welcomes Freedom's Watch to the Iraq Discourse, Announces New Resources
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/research_topics/research_topics_show.htm?doc_id=519382


Foundation for the Defense of Democracies:


Board of Directors

Steve Forbes
Board Member
CEO Forbes Magazine

Dr. Jeane J. Kirkpatrick
Founding Member, 2001-2006
Fmr. Ambassador to the UN

Jack Kemp
Chairman Emeritus
Fmr. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development


Distinguished Advisors


Judge Louis J. Freeh
Fmr. Director of the FBI

Sen. Joseph Lieberman
(D-CT)
U.S. Senate

Newt Gingrich
Fmr. Speaker of the House

R. James Woolsey
Fmr. Director of the CIA


Board of Advisors


Gary Bauer
President
American Values

Bill Kristol
Editor
Weekly Standard

Donna Brazile
Campaign Manager, Democratic strategist
Gore 2000

Hon. Richard D. Lamm
Fmr. Governor
Colorado

Rep. Eric Cantor
Chairman (R-VA)
Task Force on Terrorism

Rep. Jim Marshall
(D-GA)
U.S. House of Representatives

Rep. Eliot Engel
(D-NY)
U.S. House of Representatives

Sen. Zell Miller
(D-GA)
Former U.S. Senator

Frank Gaffney
President
Center for Security Policy

Richard Perle
Former Chair of the Defense Policy Board and FDD Advisor

Amb. Marc Ginsberg
Fmr. Ambassador
Morocco

Steven Pomerantz
Former Assistant Director
FBI

Charles Jacobs
President
American Anti-Slavery Group

Oliver "Buck" Revell
Former Associate Deputy Director
FBI

Charles Krauthammer
Syndicated Columnist

Sen. Charles E. Schumer
(D-NY)
U.S. Senate

Senior Fellows
line

Khairi Abaza
Middle East and Democracy Expert
Andrew C. McCarthy
Director, FDD's Center for Law and Counterterrorism

Avi Jorisch
Terrorism Expert
Barbara Newman
Investigative Reporter and Author

Samer Libdeh
Middle East and Democracy Expert
Dr. Walid Phares
Director, FDD's Future of Terrorism Project

Mario Loyola
Visiting Fellow: Diplomacy and Defense
Victoria Toensing
Fmr. Chief Counsel to Sen. Intelligence Committee

Adjunct Fellows
line

Dr. Jonathan Adelman
Professor
University of Denver
Michael I. Krauss
Professor of Law
George Mason University School of Law

Richard Z. Chesnoff
Journalist
Agota Kuperman
U.S. Foreign Service (ret.)

Paul Crespo
Former Marine Corps Officer and Military Attaché
Joel Mowbray
Journalist

Tanya Gilly
Member of the Iraqi National Assembly
Dr. J. Peter Pham
Director of the Nelson Institute for International and Public Affairs
James Madison University

Ethan Gutmann
Adjunct Fellow
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Dr. Frederic Smoler
Professor
Sarah Lawrence College

Orde Kittrie
Law Professor
Arizona State University


Staff
line

Tony Badran
Research Fellow, Levant
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
Cara Rosenthal
Senior Manager, Development
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

Amb. Richard W. Carlson
Vice Chairman
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
Claudia Rosett
Journalist-in-Residence
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

Kyle Dabruzzi
Summer Fellow
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Stephanie Schwartz
Communications and Special Projects Coordinator
The Center for Liberty in the Middle East

Mark Dubowitz
Chief Operating Officer
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
David Silverstein
Vice-President, Campus Education & Grassroots Programs
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

Sasha Eckstein
Special Assistant
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Jonathan L. Snow
Research Fellow
Coalition Against Terrorist Media

Daveed Gartenstein-Ross
Vice President of Research
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
Jean Thurman
Manager, Operations
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

Joshua Goodman
Manager, Research
Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Caitlyn Walters
Coordinator, Campus Programs
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

Eleana Gordon
Senior Vice-President
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
Dan Wilson
Communications Coordinator
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

Clifford D. May
President
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
Brian Wise
Director of Media Relations
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies

Bill McCarthy
Vice-President, Communications
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies
Adela A. Zachariades
Coordinator, Future of Terrorism Project
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

Jessica Risch
Research Associate
The Foundation for Defense of Democracies

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 02:03 PM
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16. Bingo!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 12:54 AM
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23. Foundation for the Defense of Democracies is pure propaganda
One name you've really got to focus on is FDD's president, Clifford May. He's been vice chairman of the Republican Jewish Coalition -- a group which has considerable overlap with Freedom's Watch -- and FDD has strong ties to Israel. May was also director of communications (which is to say, propagandist-in-chief) for the RNC from 1997-2001. And he's the person who in late 2003 was trying to spread the story that "everybody" had known Valerie Plame was CIA.

Foundation for the Defense of Democracies was created just two days after September 11 -- a fact which in itself suggests it was a propaganda front. Two days after September 11, normal people were still in shock -- it was *only* the propagandists who were scurrying about, looking for crumbs to scrounge.

FDD's vice chairman is Ambassador Richard Carlson, a former director of the Voice of America -- which is to say, another professional propagandist.

And FDD is a client of Creative Response Concepts, a right-wing PR firm which has also represented (among many others) the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional and Senatorial Committees, the Swiftboat Veterans, Regnery Publishing, and the Federalist Society -- as well as having been tangled up in promoting the CBS memos story.

In short, propagandists working for propagandists piled upon propagandists. There is *nothing* straight or sincere about this bunch by any conceivable measure. It's front groups, false stories, and political dirty tricks all the way down.

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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 01:38 AM
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24. Good post! Clifford May is a fucking pig. Same for Tucker Carlson's daddy.
So willing to offer the lives of others. Never risking their own.

You don't want to hear about these mf'ers on a full stomach.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 05:13 AM
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25. Do these guys have ten cell phones piles on a desk or
one phone with ten lines they answer with different greetings?

Geeze Louise.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 05:03 PM
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17. K&R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 08:57 PM
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18. Up at OpEd News:
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:16 PM
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19. Is that you?
Great work anyway keep on keeping on Sis!
2 more votes to the greatest I hope it makes it for wider viewing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:23 PM
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20. It's DU. If it weren't for hoot or DeepModem Mom, I never would have
Edited on Mon Oct-01-07 09:24 PM by sfexpat2000
known. If it weren't for babylonsister's thread, it would take days to get the info together.

DU, :toast:

On edit: Henry Ford would be proud of us. lol
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 09:45 PM
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21. One more kick. Try the veal!
lol
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 10:02 PM
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22. I wouldn't want to have a beer with anyone mentioned in this thread.
A whole lot of blood-covered chickenhawks.

My thanks to all who contributed to this thread.

Recommended.
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