BIG News! Judge rules Bush can’t block presidential records!

[babylonsister]

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/10/01/judge-invalidates-bushs-order-blocking-records/

Judge rules Bush can’t block presidential records.

Today, a federal judge “invalided part of a 2001 order by President Bush allowing former presidents to review executive documents before they can be released under open records laws.” The AP reports:

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly ruled that the presidential order eliminated the discretion of the National Archives to control the release historical records. She said the executive order allowed former presidents to delay the release of those records “presumably indefinitely.”

The ruling was made in a lawsuit filed by the American Historical Association and other organizations, which argued that Bush’s Executive Order 13,233 was an “impermissible exercise of the executive power.”

A bill that would overturn the order is pending in the Senate.

[rfranklin]

1. Okay, now let's open Poppy's papers and Junior's and Raygun's...

because there is just so much great reading in those pages.

[aggiesal]

33. In case you didn't already know, ...

After Jr. signed this into law, he then had all his papers from when he was Gov. of Texas put into Sr. Presidential papers, so that the citizens of Texas could not FOIA his Gov. papers.

A$$h0le!

[Patsy Stone]

2. Aren't we still waiting for Bush 41 papers?

IIRC, he's the one that really gave this a kick start.

:hi:

"Presumably indefinitely" seems like a long, long time to me.

[babylonsister]

4. Hi, Patsy! Yes, a very long time, and you know these people, who have

so much to hide, will fight this. One for our team today though!

:hi: :thumbsup:

[Patsy Stone]

9. Indeed

and every little helps.

[TygrBright]

3. The order will be appealed. The question will move up to the Supremes.

Guess how they will rule?

I'm not a-holdin' my breath on this one.

gloomily,
Bright

[babylonsister]

5. Aw, come on, don't be a gloomy puss. Maybe

their consciences will prevail, or their sense of history, or sumthin'!

[TygrBright]

11. Darlin', your faith in human nature is exemplary...

...and I wish I could share it. I really do. A little corner of my Pollyanna midwestern goshgollygee upbringing is still in there wishing it may be so.

But more than four decades of political experience sez: Fat chance.

Here's hopin' yer right, though...

skeptically,
Bright

[VLC]

15. For their consciences to prevail, they'd have to have some.

NO WAY will they comply with this, even if it comes down to a judicial order.

Remember the subpoenas?

[AuntPatsy]

16. Here is hoping your words are prophetic.

[sallyseven]

29. They will rule against bush. I will bet.

Even they think he is a shit.

[ThomCat]

6. I hope history is very unkind, very soon.

Let's see what vicious, unconstitutional shit historians can uncover. Public outrage might be the only think preventing us from losing what's left of our constitutional republic.

[stubtoe]

26. It would be cathartic. Painful but cleansing for democracy.

.

[Blackhatjack]

7. Someone better keep a close watch on Junior's shrink wrapped records at Poppy's Library...

Next thing you know a moving van will roll up and take all Junior's records away to an undisclosed location. There is some really incriminating information inside the shrink-wrap.

Dan Rather should ask the Court to issue an order restricting the removal of the records without Court permission, since it almost guaranteed there are records related to Junior's time in the TANG.

[malaise]

8. Great news n/t

[Richard D]

10. I'm 100 percent certain . . .

. . . that if these records are ever subpoenaed, * will turn them over right away. Doncha think?

[4nic8em]

12. I can already hear the WH republics response ....

"what documents?"

[Oldtimeralso]

28. 43's Library

Apparently you did not hear of the fire in 43's library.
It destroyed the 9/11 copy of "My Pet Goat", both coloring books even the one that he did not finish,(his daddy didn't have time to help him on that one)and all his crayons melted.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

13. ABOUT TIME something good happens!! nt

[Cha]

14. And that's why they want to

get rid of all the judges who go by the law and are not under orders directly from the bushits.

"The ruling was made in a lawsuit filed by the American Historical Association and other organizations, which argued that Bush’s Executive Order 13,233 was an “impermissible exercise of the executive power.”

[progressoid]

17. Gee, since when has the rule of law or a court order meant anything to these guys?

[MiniMe]

18. I'm sure that *co will "take it under advisement" and "look into the options"

Like they do with every other court case they have lost so far.

[Ghost in the Machine]

19. K&R

Let's see if they start squirming like snakes on a hot asphalt road.

Hey, I have some free time on my hands... someone tell me how and I'll start requesting documents from them every day.... who do I write and what do you want to ask for?? :evilgrin:

Let the sun shine it's disinfecting light on this cancerous misadministration!

[annabanana]

20. The current PHYSICAL disposition of the papers will be the deciding factor.

If they are where they can be released without physical interference, we will see them. If they are in busco's custody.. they will be destroyed before they will be released.

[Judi Lynn]

21. Glad to see the subject was even approached, after all this time.

I am certain many of us were completely horrified when the pResidential imposter pulled this off in 2001. He was so full of himself, hit the ground running. Every day was a new wiked trick on the American public. If there's ANY way this decision will be allowed to stand, we're all so much better off for it.

I can't wait to see the material on _{George H. W. Bush's} invasion of Panama, and the massacre of helpless, completely unsuspecting citizens. He should be required to be responsible for this, with the entire story illuminated for the taxpayers who had to underwrite this filthy wickedness financially, while being kept completely in the dark.

[killbotfactory]

22. Fire up the memory hole

Somebody's gonna have to stay up late and "lose" some records.

[mod mom]

23. Those shredding machines are going to be working in overdrive!

[Toots]

24. It was an Act of Congress in the first place

He seemed to think he as one man could just overrule an Act of congress so what good is another Act of Congress going to do. He will just overrule that as well. There are no papers any longer from the Reagan Administration. they have been scrubbed clean.

[Le Taz Hot]

25. Worry not.

The Supremes will come to his rescue. Its shit like this that they were placed there to do.

[spanone]

27. bu$h* will do it anyway

[Quantess]

30. Time for an afternoon kick.

[lonestarnot]

31. Thanks. I would have missed this otherwise.

[snappyturtle]

32. Great find! K&R nt