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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:39 PM
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Is the UN really useless?
What has this expensive Organization actually done to help the World?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:48 PM
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1. well with the US as one of the five permanant seats on the councel
and with the US basically doing whatever it wants the UN does not want to disagree with american foriegn policy, no wait, it does not want to interfere with american forign policy because they do not want to be caught up in our bombing campaigns.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:50 PM
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2. The UN is only useless when the US makes it so.
Too much power in the hands of terrorists?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:51 PM
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3. Ultimately, the UN can't do anything to the 5 permanent members of the Security Council.
If we were dealing with an America that didn't have a permanent seat and a veto on the Security Council, the world would have long ago levied sanctions against the US when it aggressively invaded Iraq.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-02-07 11:52 PM
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4. It pisses off freepers. That's something.
:)
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 12:08 AM
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5. Yeah, that alone is good enough for me.
:)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 12:44 AM
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6. Right-wing has been trying to destroy it since it opened -- and still at it!!!
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Trisket-Bisket Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 12:50 AM
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7. Use a search engine.
You will get real information and save bandwith at this site for important posts.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:23 AM
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11. I was thinking this, as well. There's no excuse for ignorance any longer. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 12:56 AM
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8. The UN has never been independent from us.
So, the answer to your question is yes.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:49 AM
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9. No. It's a feeble institution
but it's far better than not having an international forum at all.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:13 AM
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10. They eradicated smallpox, for one thing. A .12-second Google search reveals the following...
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 06:17 AM by Perry Logan
UNITED NATIONS ACCOMPLISHMENTS
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1. Deploying more than 35 peace-keeping missions. There are presently 16 active peace-keeping forces in operation.

2. Credited with negotiating 172 peaceful settlements that have ended regional conflicts

3. The UN has enabled people in over 45 countries to participate in free and fair elections

4. Development - The system's annual disbursements, including loans and grants, amount to more than $10 billion.

5. UNICEF spends more than $800 million a year, primarily on immunization, health care, nutrition and basic education in 138 countries.

6. UN Human Rights Commission has focused world attention on cases of torture, disappearance, and arbitrary detention and has generated international pressure.

7. UN Conference eon Environment and Development held in Rio de Janeiro in 1992, resulted in treaties on bio-diversity and climate change.

8. Has helped minimize the threat of a nuclear war by inspecting nuclear reactors in 90.

9. Over 300 international treaties, on topics as varied as human rights conventions to agreements on the use of outer space and seabed.

10. The International Court of Justice has helped settle international disputes involving territorial issues, diplomatic relations, hostage-taking, and economic rights.

11. The UN was a major factor in bringing about the downfall of the apartheid system.

12. More than 30 million refugees fleeing war, famine or persecution have received aid from the UN High Commissioner for Refugees.

13. Aiding Palestinian Refugees with free schooling, essential health care, relief assistance and key social services virtually without interruption. There are 2.9 million refugees in the Middle East served by UNRWA.

14. Alleviating Chronic Hunger and Rural Poverty in Developing Countries, providing credit that has benefited over 230 million people in nearly 100 developing countries.

15. The Africa Project Development Facility has helped entrepreneurs in 25 countries to find financing for new enterprises. The Facility has completed 130 projects which represent investments of $233 million and the creation of 13,000 new jobs, saving some $131 million in foreign exchange annually.

16. Promoting Women's Rights ­have supported programs and projects to improve the quality of life for women in over 100 countries, including credit and training, marketing opportunities, etc.

17. Providing Safe Drinking Water ­ Available to 1.3 billion people in rural areas during the last decade.

18. Eradicating Smallpox ­ through vaccinations and monitoring. Helped wipe out polio from the Western Hemisphere, with global eradication expected soon.

19. Pressing for Universal Immunization of polio, tetanus, measles, whooping cough, diphtheria and tuberculosis ­ has a 80% immunization rate, saving the lives of more than 3 million children each year.

20. Reducing child mortality rates, halved since 1960, increasing the average life expectancy from 37 to 67 years.

21. Fighting parasitic diseases, such as saving the lives of 7 million children from going blind from the river blindness and rescued many others from guinea worm and other tropical diseases.

22. Promoting investment in developing countries ­promoting entrepreneurship and self-reliance, industrial cooperation and technology transfer and cost-effective, ecologically-sensitive industry.

23. Reducing the effects of natural disasters ­early warning system, which utilizes thousands of surface monitors as well as satellites, has provided information for the dispersal of oil spills and has predicted long-term droughts.

24. Providing food to victims of emergencies ­ Over two million tons of food each year. 30 million people facing acute food shortages in 36 countries benefited from this assistance last year.

25. Clearing land mines - The United Nations is leading an international effort to clear land minds from Afghanistan, Angola, Cambodia, El Salvador, Mozambique, Rwanda and Somalia.

26. Protecting the ozone layer & global warming­highlighting the damage caused to the earth's ozone layer. As a result there has been a global effort to reduce chemical emissions of substances that have caused the depletion of the ozone.

27. Preventing over-fishing

28. Limiting deforestation and promoting sustainable forestry development ­in 90 countries.

29. Cleaning up pollution ­encouraged adversaries such as Syria and Israel, and Turkey and Greece to work together to clean up beaches. As a result, more than 50% of the previously polluted beaches are now usable.

30. Protecting consumers' health ­have established standards for over 200 food commodities and safety limits for more than 3,000 food contaminants.

31. Reducing fertility rates ­ Family planning programs. Women in developing countries are having fewer children ­ from six births per woman in the 1960s to 3.5 today. In the 1960s, only 10% of the world's families were using effective methods of family planning. The number now stands at 55 percent.

32. Fighting drug abuse ­Reduce demand for illicit drugs, suppress drug trafficking, and has helped farmers to reduce their economic reliance on growing narcotic crops by shifting farm production toward other dependable sources of income.

33. Improving global trade relations ­ The UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) has worked to obtain special trade preferences for developing countries to export their products to developed countries with fair prices.

34. Promoting economic reform ­ Together with the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, the United Nations has helped many countries improve their economic management, offered training for government finance officials, and provided financial assistance to countries experiencing temporary balance of payment difficulties.

35. Promoting worker rights ­worked to guarantee freedom of the right to association, the right to organize, collective bargaining, setting worker safety standards, the rights of indigenous and tribal peoples, promote employment and equal remuneration and has sought to eliminate discrimination and child labor.

36. Introducing improved agricultural techniques and reducing costs ­Resulted in improved crop yields, Asian rice farmers have saved $12 million on pesticides and governments over $150 a year in pesticide subsidies.

37. Promoting stability and order in the world's oceans ­global agreement for the protection, preservation and peaceful development of the oceans.

38. Improving air and sea travel ­Setting safety standards for sea and air travel, making air travel the safest mode of transportation.

39. Protecting intellectual property ­Protection for new inventions and maintains a register of nearly 3 million national trademarks. artists, composers and authors worldwide.

40. Promoting the free flow of information ­free of censorship and culturally unbiased, aid to develop and strengthen communication systems, established news agencies and supported an independent press.

41. Improving global communications ­ Regulated international mail delivery, coordinated use of the radio spectrum, promoted cooperation in assigning positions for stationary satellites, and established international standards for communications, thereby ensuring the unfettered flow of information around the globe.

42. Empowering the voiceless ­recognize the needs and contributions of groups usually excluded from decision-making such as the aging, children, youth, homeless, indigenous an disabled people.

43. Establishing "children as a zone of peace" ­ From El Salvador to Lebanon, Sudan to former Yugoslavia, provide vaccines and other assistance desperately needed by children caught in armed conflict.

44. Generating worldwide commitment in support of the needs of children ­more than 150 governments have committed to reaching over 20 specific measurable goals to radically improve children's lives by the year 2000.

45. Improving education in developing countries ­60% of adults in developing countries can now read and write, and 80 percent of children in these countries attend school.

46. Improving literacy for women ­Raise the female literacy rate in developing countries from 36 percent in 1970 to 56 percent in 1990.

47. Safeguarding and preserving historic cultural and architectural sites ­protected through the efforts of UNESCO, and international conventions have been adopted to preserve cultural property.

48. Facilitating academic and cultural exchanges encouraged scholarly and scientific cooperation, networking of institutions and promotion of cultural expressions, including those of minorities and indigenous people.
http://www.una-usadanecounty.org/about/index.php?category_id=1550
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:58 AM
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12. It would help if they were allowed to do anything
The five permanent seats and the vetos that go along with them (a design flaw crippling the entire organisation) means that any time one of those five (or Israel) has a stake in something, it will be vetoed. The US has abused that power more than most. For example, it has unilaterally vetoed resolutions regarding Israel more than thirty times. Regardless of how one feels about Israel, when that's compared to the "unreasonable veto" trope that did the rounds prior to the Iraq war, it does smack of hypocracy. Really though, the veto powers were such a huge mistake in the first place that they pretty much guarenteed the ineffectiveness of the organisation.

If you read Kofi Annan's memoirs, he makes it very clear that through the veto, economics and so on, the US pretty much owns the UN. On the rare occasions when the UN dares to not do as it's told (i.e. Iraq), it's simply ignored. The right (and some idiots on the left) keep talking about how the UN must be "relevant". This apparently means rubber-stamping anything the US wants which sounds very much like irrelevance to me.
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