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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 12:56 PM
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*Breaking*- Ron Paul raised $5.08 Million last quarter!!!
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 12:57 PM by npincus
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/politics_nation/2007/10/exclusive_paul_tops_5_mil_for.html

:rofl: So, has Ron Paul raised even more $ than McCain last quarter? This means we can all enjoy the anti-war message of Ron Paul at many more GOP debates to come! :rofl:




Exclusive: Paul Tops $5 Mil For Quarter

Texas Congressman Ron Paul, an anti-war libertarian making his second run at the White House, will report having raised $5.08 million in the third quarter. The number, which rivals those of John McCain and Bill Richardson, was boosted thanks to last-minute online fundraising that brought in more than $1.2 million in the last week of the quarter alone.

Paul has drawn himself in sharp contrast with the rest of the field, often engaging in loud exchanges with fellow candidates over his vehement opposition to the war in Iraq. His campaign has been marked by frugal spending and a surprisingly strong online fan base; he routinely wins online straw polls after debates.

This is the second quarter in a row Paul has shown fundraising strength. Last quarter he reported having more cash on hand than McCain, a sidebar that contributed to stories of McCain's collapse.

Whether Paul will be a major factor in the GOP nominating contests remains to be seen, but his money totals - it is likely he will have outraised several second-tier Republicans and Democrats combined - mean he will be in for the long haul. Paul's campaign announced they will begin running television spots earlier this week.



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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 12:59 PM
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1. beautiful
:rofl:
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:01 PM
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2. He's the best of the bunch, there's no doubt about it.
:rofl:

So much to choose from, how will the Kool-Aid sippers ever be able to decide: :rofl:
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:36 PM
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57. agreed! n/t
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:56 PM
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60. Boy I can't believe
how much attention he is getting on DU.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:01 PM
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3. Republicans are in bad shape
They're fracturing more with each day.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:17 PM
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12. True that. The Christian faction is threatening a 3rd Party and
the business crowd quit drinking the kool-aid. Who does that leave in the repuke party?

9,000 Uber-rich and neo-con warmongers?
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:42 PM
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39. Don't forget the criminally insane. /nt
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 03:44 PM
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46. The incredibly f***ing gullible listeners of Rush Limbaugh
Not to mention the folks who think the only important amendment is the 2nd.
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 03:00 PM
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42. All Dubya has to do
to remain the decider is declare Martial Law and cancel the elections.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:02 PM
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4. Ron Paul: for people who REALLY want to waste their votes.
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:30 PM
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56. Who does he think he is
Cindy Sheehan? We can't have people running for political positions the are against this war. What has happened to being a true Patriot?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:15 PM
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64. Don't defend him! He's a RACIST! Read this:
It might be wise to KNOW who you're defending before you do so.:(


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The wisdom of Ron Paul

“If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably-fleet-footed they can be.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“Politically sensible blacks are outnumbered as decent people... Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“The Criminals who terrorize our cities - in riots and on every non-riot day - are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.” (Victoria Advocate, 8/7/96)

“There is no such thing as a hate crime.” (Ron Paul: Political Action Report, 1/15/92)

A “free market provides for the poor...” (MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour, 10/24/88 on why he is against government assistance)

"Is bailing out people that chose to live on the coastline a proper function of the federal government?” he asks. “Why do people in Arizona have to be robbed in order to support the people on the coast?" (Washington Post, 7/9/06) (Paul voted against assistance to Katrina and Rita victims, even though some of his district is on the Texas coast.)

“I am opposed to any form of government health insurance as I am opposed to the taxes, regulations, licensing requirements, and monopolistic practices, which keep health costs higher than their true market value.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988)

As for Social Security, "we didn't have it until 1935," Paul says. "I mean, do you read stories about how many people were laying in the streets and dying and didn't have medical treatment? …Prices were low and the country was productive and families took care of themselves and churches built hospitals and there was no starvation." (Washington Post, 7/9/06)

“Something must be done to phase out the government’s involvement in Social Security. Pension and annuity plans should be the concern of the people, not the government. Political control of these things will lead only to bankruptcy and misery for retired persons.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988M)

“Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.” (Ron Paul Political Report, 3/15/92)

"The right of secession should be ingrained in a free society. There is nothing sacred about large units of government. And there is nothing wrong with loosely banding together small units of government. With the disintegration of the Soviet Union, we too should consider it." From his newsletter in the early to mid 90s--sorry I don't have an exact date.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1061584
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 09:13 PM
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67. I'm not defending Ron Paul
Like I said in another post, it seems both parties are highly concern with him.
FWIW my neighbor has darker skin and is a liberal democrat. And you know what he loves Ron Paul.

It might be because Ron Paul will legalize marijuana.:-)
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:04 PM
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5. Poor John McCain and Katherine Harris
Those two have really been pissed and shitted on by their own party worse than they treat democrats. You know your party hates and has no respect for you when Rush Limbaugh has said he doesn't even like McCain.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:06 PM
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6. I'm stunned! I think people are responding to his no-bullshit approach
and his "close the IRS, end fed taxes, bring the Troops home NOW" and extremely conservative fiscal approach.

And I wonder if this will be the "third party" candidate that the conservative R's turn to?

He was a laughing stock -- but apparently there aren't so many people laughing at this point.

Regardless of our views of him, this should give all of us "Non Top Tier" supporters hope. There are folks out there willing to listen to differing views.

It actually kind of is a hopeful note for the country -- that a non-by-the-book message is actually being heard by the populace.

I say good for Ron Paul!


HAVE TO ADD: I'm not a RP supporter, don't agree with many of his approaches and YES I know his views on abortion and social programs. I'm just saying good for him because it's an example of what we would like to believe is possible in our country. Especially at this time. So this is NOT a discussion on RP, just a comment on this situation.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:12 PM
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7. You're exactly right
People respond to his (I don't want to call it NO bullshit, he's a politician after all) straight forwardness. I actually thought about voting for this guy for awhile if he were the Republican primary winner, but there are some areas where he's just off the charts crazy.

Now, if RP were to run as an Indy and no left-wing candidate did the same, it would pretty much make the election a Democratic lock.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:36 PM
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15. I heard someone predict that there would be a dark horse on the R side of
things -- most likely Ron Paul. Not that he would become President, but that he would splinter the Republican votes. I think I heard this about 6 months ago and thought "no way". He's got a long way to go, but the $5 mill is impressive.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:46 PM
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22. I think that will only happen
If he runs as an Indy. Similarly, I think (although it's getting to the point that it's doubtful) that Bloomburg might do the same as the "left-indy." Personally, I think it would make an amazing presidential race. The Republican nom and an independent-right candidate and the Democrat nom and an independent-left candidate. I'd like to see it happen really.

Ron speaks well to the moderate-conservatives who are have libertarian or even liberal social leanings. From what I've seen, the RP crowd is fiscally conservative (some VERY conservative), socially liberal and prefer an isolationist foreign policy.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:09 PM
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25. CAN he re-register as an independent at this point? I don't think he'd mind
that at all (like I know the guy -- but that's my impression).

And, stepping back and objectively looking -- there'd be some whopper debates. I'd like to see that, too.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:13 PM
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27. I think there are "sore loser laws" in some states that prevent a candidate
from losing the primary and running third-party--a Lieberman preventative. So I suppose he wouldn't be able to get on many state ballots.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:03 PM
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48. Can we just put Lieberman out of OUR misery, now??
How about BEFORE the primary? Civics was not one of my better subjects in school (if that's even the correct subject!) :7
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:40 PM
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38. You can say that again
"I say good for Ron Paul!"
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:37 PM
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58. You might be right
But didn't he vote no on the patriot act?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:12 PM
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8. check out his PRESS RELEASE:
http://blog.ronpaul2008.com/ron_paul_2008/2007/10/press-release-t.html

:rofl:

Press Release: Third Quarter Fundraising
Paul Campaign Raises Over $5,000,000 In Third Quarter

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

October 3, 2007

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA -- The Ron Paul 2008 presidential campaign raised $5,080,000 during the third quarter of 2007. That is an impressive 114 percent increase from the second quarter.

Cash on hand for the Paul campaign is $5,300,000.

"Dr. Paul's message is freedom, peace and prosperity," said Paul campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "As these fundraising numbers show, more Americans each day are embracing Dr. Paul's message."

Ron Paul's 114 percent increase is in stark contrast to the decrease suffered by Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain. Romney's fundraising was down 29 percent. Giuliani was down 40 percent. McCain was down 55 percent.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:37 PM
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16. Go Ron Paul! Squash those other gnats! nt
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:51 PM
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23. I have to say
here in the ever so blue NE, there is a grassroots group working very hard for Paul. He has freeway blog signs from Boston to Hartford on major roads and even not so major roads. He obviously has built a group willing to put their time where their beliefs are.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:28 PM
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32. I agree
I was in Charlotte, NC. last week and was in Cincinnat this week. Both places I saw bumper stickers, bridge (over the freeways) signs, stickers on phone polls, etc. for Ron Paul. I have been amazed at the response.

There's a decent group of libertarians out there who are very against the war. They must be funding this guy. Or it is Repukes tired of the same old crap with the Christian spew.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:33 PM
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35. Yeah, they tagged a lot of stop traffic signs in Allston
with that kind of neat Ron Paul rEVOLution stickers that do that revolution/love trick.

I don't think he's a laughing stock. He reminds me of Dean: he's principled, talks about ideas, and could probably win an election if the media would stop poking him in the eye. I disagree with a lot of his positions, but I *like him* on an emotional level more than most candidates on either side; it's something I haven't felt since I was working for Dean in '04.

And if there's a Hawkish Democrat and a Hawkish Republican and somebody like Paul running a strong 3rd party ticket? Well... I'll just say there would be some soul-searching going on.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:38 PM
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37. Driving from Dallas to Kansas City last weekend,
Edited on Wed Oct-03-07 02:40 PM by girl gone mad
we saw several '08 political billboards, signs and bumperstickers and they were ALL for Ron Paul. He's got some strong grassroots support here in the midwest.

Also, I was in Chicago over the summer and he had a lot of supporters walking around the air show.

It's fascinating to me and I think his campaign more than any previous ones will be a test of how far netroots can carry a candidate. Dean did very well building a base through the internet, but he also had more traditional support. Paul is far more of an outsider in his own party.
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:18 PM
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66. There's a hardcore group here in SWMO too
actually, I think it may only be one person. He drives a rEVOLution van and has put up signs all over the freaking place. This is Roy Blunt/Asscroft country down here too.
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:46 PM
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40. That's incredible
Ron Paul's 114 percent increase is in stark contrast to the decrease suffered by Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain. Romney's fundraising was down 29 percent. Giuliani was down 40 percent. McCain was down 55 percent.

I thought Romney was the GOP's top runner.


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:13 PM
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9. He's a socially moderate corporatist ... NOT a libertarian in the conventional sense.
He supports laissez-faire trade and corporatism. A true libertarian would abolish corporations as a state-sanctioned privilege - an entitlement to wealth. Ron Paul is 'soft' on monopolies and oligopolies. Corporate authoritarianism is inimical to individual liberties.

The bastardization of the label "libertarian" is disgusting
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:39 PM
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18. And, He's Staunchly Anti-Choice
A lbertarian doesn't want gov't interfering in the personal medical choices people make, and he's very against abortion.

That's pretty far from being a libertarian (big "L" or little "L").
The Professor
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:44 PM
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21.  think it's us who label him "libertarian" -- although he did run on that

ticket previously.

He keeps referring to himself as a TRUE Republican -- less government, fiscal conservatism, etc. So we may be the ones bastardizing the label not him.

(Did you see him on Bill Maher when Maher said "I consider myself a Libertarian but compared to you I look like Chairman Mao. Ha!)

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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 03:34 PM
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44. He might go after corporate crime though, or as he says...
"evil" corporations.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:14 PM
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10. He's got a Pat Paulsen look about him....
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:16 PM
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11. Where I live, I left my office today and saw Ron Paul for president signs
all over that area of the city. Evidently, there is a little bit of a rebellion in republican land.
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Tigermoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:24 PM
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14. I have seen many on overpasses...
I would love to see this guy rock the establishment.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:38 PM
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17. I would too!
And I know I'm on DU - I hope no one takes offense.
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Tigermoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:21 PM
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13. What if it came down to HRC vs Ron Paul?
:) That would be fascinating to watch.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 09:59 PM
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68. It would be fascinating.
An antiwar Republican against a prowar Democrat. A fiscal conservative who would abolish the FED against a corporate liberal who defends outsourcing. It's like a parallel universe. Bizarro world.

Some sense of it can be made by realizing that there are two dimensions to the political compass. Authoritarian/libertarian and liberal/conservative. Social libertarians, e.g., Chomsky or Ghandi may have as much in common with Ron Paul as they would with Hillary Clinton, just along a different axis. I'm not sure who I would vote for. How I would love to abolish the FED and get out of Iraq. But the conservative issues like abortion or bigotry of Paul would be difficult to accept. I think my choice would be to vote Green or other independent party.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:41 PM
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19. Ron Paul is something of a RW lunatic
But it's nice to see the rethugs fracturing into so many pieces. RP comes from what I call the "Leave me the hell alone" brand of Republicanism. Most of the RW Fundies won't go for him because he wants to legalize all drugs. Most of the centrists won't go for him because he wants to do stuff like abolishing public schools. And most liberals won't go for him because he's virulently anti-abortion.

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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:10 PM
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26. He is not RW. RW for me means more war. RP is not that. nt
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:14 PM
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28. He's absolutely right wing. He's a wingnut.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:17 PM
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30. And rabidly anti-choice
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:19 PM
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31. He is libertarian right as opposed to libertarian left.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:15 PM
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29. Of course he's a right wing loony.
He wants to outlaw abortion, abolish the income tax, dismantle all social and environmental programs and protections, etc. Just because he's a classic isolationist doesn't mean he's not right wing.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 01:43 PM
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20. Just goes to show, there is a demand for an anti-war conservative after all--
who knew?
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:37 PM
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36. The Bush followers
Are shrinking by the minute. And they are making a statement by supporting Ron Paul.
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zestfolly Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:07 PM
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24. Run Ron Run!
Take the GOP off the cliff with you!

:woohoo:
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:30 PM
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33. How can this be?
I guess people are sick of the usuall politics an Ron Paul brings a breathe of fresh air.

My neighbors and friends who are Repubs and Dems have told me they are voting for Ron Paul. It will be interesting how this unfolds.:wow:
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:32 PM
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34. I support Ron Paul for the Republican nomination!
He will move the discussions on the issues in the correct direction imho, insuring the coming death of the R party
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 02:51 PM
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41. You know I'm surprised
the media doesn't say how he wants to end this silly war on drugs.
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 03:13 PM
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43. Repubs change rules to lock out Ron Paul, Oct.12th deadline
Ron Paul must be making an impact... check out the article below.

http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-New-Voting-Rules-100307.html

Ron Paul Betting Odds Could be Impacted by New Voting Rules

Voting Rules Changed at Last Minute Will Shut out Votes for 2008 US Presidential candidate Ron Paul, according to Gambling911.com Special Contributor Jennifer Reynolds. Ms. Reynolds regularly reports on the Ron Paul campaign for the Gambling911.com website. Dr. Paul, as many of you already know, is opposed to the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA) and there are many in the online gambling space who would love to see him get elected into office next year.

But it turns out his own party is going to make this an even more difficult task.

"Many states, in an effort to shut out Ron Paul are now closing their primaries," reports Reynolds. "That means that only Republicans can vote in the Presidential primaries for a Republican candidate."

And this could have a tremendous impact on Ron Paul betting odds, though probably not in the next few weeks. Ron Paul odds were slashed to 6 to 1 over this past weekend, making him a bigger favorite than Mitt Romney.

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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 03:35 PM
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45. If I could say this on DU...
...I might say that I'd vote for him over Hillary. But since I can't say that, I won't.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 03:47 PM
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47. If I responded to your not saying that
I'd tell you that you're just as nuts as he is.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:26 PM
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53. my my
a little harsh, no?

Some of us think it is not appropriate to vote for presidential candidates who advocate continuing neo colonialist policies of invasion and occupation in order to steal resources, killing millions in the process, and are alarmed enough about it to think that a candidate who DOES support those things has no business in a presidential race.

But that's just me. And a few tens of millions of other Americans.

fine. call me a nut, too.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:34 PM
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55. Not in the least
anyone who dares to call themselves a liberal or progressive and would even consider voting for someone who wants a constitutional amendment proclaiming that life begins at conception, wants to shut down not just illegal immigration and build a wall along the entire border, but also wants to severely limit legal immigration, wants to drastically lower taxes including taxes on corporations, wants to destroy any environmental protections, and privatize Social Security, is indeed, not just nuts but fucking nuts.

And I don't know of a single dem candidate who advocates the invasions and occupations a la Iraq. You can try and spin that Clinton or Obama or Edwards are neocons, but that's bullshit.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:04 PM
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49. I might not say the same thing. nt
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:09 PM
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52. Well you just said it
:P
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 05:27 PM
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54. I won't vote for a warmonger.
there. we can both get banned.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:18 PM
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65. You would vote for a RACIST over Hillary? Ron Paul is a RACIST.
:(
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 08:11 PM
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63. Just so you know, the man is a RACIST....you would vote for a racist over Hillary?
GEEZUS. This IS DU, ya know. That would be DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND. NOT repuke RACIST UNDERGROUND.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:08 PM
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50. go Ron go
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 04:40 PM
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51. I see more and more of his stickers and yard signs every day
I think alot of republicans have woke up to see the criminal for what he is and realize their party has been hijacked by the neocons and the fundies. I'd add better late than never, but I enjoy watching their party fall apart!
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 06:39 PM
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59. Here in Iowa
My windshield estimate is Paul signs outnumber all other Reich candidates combined by at least 2:1.



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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:11 PM
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61. I wonder if he has a chance of winning the primary
The republican candidates really suck not just on the issues but they have very little personal appeal. At least he's got it right on some of the issues. I wonder if he has a chance.
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ConfidentialStatus Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 07:40 PM
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62. According
to his donors he has a chance. Because the average donation for the third Q was $40. So that equates to many people supporting his cause.
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