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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:25 PM
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I want America to elect a woman President--
not just to establish the precedent, although that is certainly one reason--but because I think we are long overdue for a counterbalance to to the patriarchal hegemony that has ruled most of the world for most of history.
The world in general, and America in specific, could use a the benefits of the classic feminine spirit. I think the average woman would do a better job of seeing to it that people receive the simple things they need: food, shelter, love, clean water and air, beauty, adequate health care. Women have traditionally been the guardians of the commons.

In short, America needs an Earth Mother.

So sad that the only candidates on the political horizon who come anywhere near to meeting these criteria are male.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:26 PM
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1. or not in the race
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:26 PM
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2. I want America to elect the best person for the job
regardless of gender
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:27 PM
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3. during the 70's, there was a comment that the ultimate feminist nightmare would be that we would
indeed have a woman president and vice-president--only they would be phyllis schlafley and anita bryant!!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:27 PM
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4. I do also, wish there was one running who emphasized that part of it.
Rather than competing in a machismo political world, get one that sees beyond that, works beyond that, is beyond that. Someday...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:31 PM
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8. Daw Aung San Suu Kyi
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:36 PM
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11. Arundhati Roy
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 04:37 PM by TahitiNut




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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:56 PM
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17. Neither of whom could be president, of course
Not having been born in the U.S.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:44 PM
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14. Yes to you and Tahiti Nut below.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:27 PM
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5. Me, too..
Just not the one who wants to be prez...so bad she can taste it! I wish it was Barbara Boxer instead!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:29 PM
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6. Joe Biden is my Earth Mother
You don't get a lot of set ups for a punchline like that.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:30 PM
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7. I want a president who shares my politcal values.
I really do not care what gender or race or ethnicity or religion (or lack thereof) that person has.

America needs to rid itself of the corporate kleptocracy and kick the war party out of power.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:31 PM
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9. So now HRC is average?
:P

"I think the average woman would do a better job..."

--------------------

"America needs an Earth Mother"
Then, we better keep looking.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:34 PM
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10. Sometimes, it takes a woman to show a man how to act like a man
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 04:35 PM by StopThePendulum
Especially when the men have lost their way, acting like cowards, bullies, or both. History has shown the human race that at times of widespread corruption and chaos, women have taken on leadership positions and acted more courageously than their male contemporaries, thus shaming the men to act more masculine and less macho and/or wimpy. Examples: Joan of Arc, the Queen Mother (during WWII), Eleanor Roosevelt, Queen Esther of Biblical fame, etc.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:39 PM
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12. too bad sonia johnson isn't running this time.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:04 PM
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32. Holy crap I haven't heard that name in YEARS
I use to vigil with her at the White House on Wednesdays for the ERA - I had just moved to the DC area - we had many great demonstrations - the best was when we blocked the entrance to the Mormon Temple Disney land on the beltway - and there was a newly married couple in there trying to get out... oh thanks for the memory jog - much younger - much more idealistic - now I have to struggle to even keep a bit of hope

Yes I have wanted a woman President all my life - and my heart is broken that the first one with a real chance has been SUCH a disappointment....
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:43 PM
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13. if only we had
a good woman candidate to run :yoiks:
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:45 PM
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15. I was getting upset
until I read your last line. Something to be said for reading the whole post. :toast:
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:53 PM
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16. Has to be the RIGHT woman
or it may as well be the wrong MAN.

Incidentally, I voted for HC twice for Senator. Very disappointed in her.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:00 PM
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21. having seen her evolve
over time

i like her positions on child advocacy, and issues at the state level in Arkansas, but as a national candidate (right she wasn't a candidate here I know) I am baffled by her positions some times.

:shrug:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:58 PM
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18. There have been female leaders, however, who have felt the need to
"out-man" the men:

Eleanor of Aquitaine rode in full battle armor to Antioch during the Crusades.

Benazhir Butto was just as adept as men at patronage, corruption, and crooked double-dealing.

Margaret Thatcher started a stupid, wasteful war with Argentina that could have been concluded peacefully with just two phone calls.

Sometimes women feel the need to show the men they are "just as strong" by doing the same stupid, idiotic things men do. A woman President of the United States won't necessarily change things for the better...
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:58 PM
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19. And she will be Number one
So there will be absolutely no tokenism. She can make some changes if she decides to.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 04:58 PM
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20. America has had an Earth Mother f***er for the past 7 years...
Isn't that close enough?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:06 PM
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23. do you even understand the term Earth Mother? because the cabal currently soiling the people's
house doesn't qualify at all.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:20 PM
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26. Umm...think about it.
What has * been doing to the earth the last 7 years?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:05 PM
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22. "I want America to elect a woman President-"
Oh we intend to. Hillary will be 44.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:10 PM
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24. Although Stereotyping Those Qualities By Gender
...sometimes provides a convenient handle for discussing them, to seriously entertain them on a real-world basis is intellectually lazy & bigoted.

Under the United States' current culture, any woman able to achieve a Presidential nomination would have done so by systematically supressing those allegedly "feminine" qualities within herself, if any.

That Catch-22, it's a hell of a catch. Best one they've got.

(And, FWIW, I do agree we could use a heapin' helpin' of those counterbalancing, nuturing qualities.)



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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:17 PM
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25. sounds good in theory...
but doesn't really work.

Women aren't traditional anymore and can be as ambitious and predatory and corrupt as men. Even if they wanted to do things a little differently they are in a straight jacket in American business and politics. Merely electing a woman certainly isn't a sure-fire way to better values and priorities. Earth Mothers do NOT run for political office, and won't anytime soon. Romantic wishful thinking.

We're going to have to cultivate the humanistic spirit in men AND women. Taking care of people and creating an equitable prosperous society isn't a gender thing. (& Look at all those rightwing women who think it's just fine to kill all those Iraqis....)
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:28 PM
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28. the more I think about this...seems to me
the OP is just havin some fun with this....

I mean, does ANYONE think that women in political office would turn anything around just because they're women?

It's hard to take it seriously...."earth mother" ROFL
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:21 PM
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27. yeah, but what we REALLY need is Rita Moreno without her meds....
Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 05:21 PM by Totally Committed
That'd scare the sh*t outta the rest of the "free" world, and disgust all the right other countries!

She can't help it, she's ITALIAN!

:rofl:


TC

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:32 PM
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31. I thought she was Puerto Rican
Maybe I'm not getting your joke. But I do get your sigfile image. But honestly...

Where's Chelsea?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:14 PM
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34. Didn't you ever see her in the film "The Four Seasons"?
She played this Italian woman who would go nuts and just say whatever was on her mind, and then blame it on her being Italian. I still laugh out loud at it.

Bucky -- I stole your sig line! I had to have it!!! Forgive me. Lots of others have commented how great it is, too. You may be seeing it all over DU!

TC
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:29 PM
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29. I don't know about you all but
I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 05:32 PM
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30. Yes, Libby Dole for president!!
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:11 PM
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33. Just so it's someone with some BALLS!
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 06:15 PM
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35. I would LOVE that, because,...it is just so PAST TIME. We need something different.
It's not a gender or "earth mother" thing.

We just could use something different from what we have had,...especially over the last century.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:06 PM
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36. Hillary will set women back generations if elected. she is a disaster to women and dems.
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:18 PM
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37. Yeah, I want the President to give me both "love" and "beauty".
:eyes:

I'll take the best person who'll do the best job, not someone elected based on their gender.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:24 PM
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38. I want America to elect the best person for the job, regardless of sex, race, or creed. n/t.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:27 PM
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39. What if Condoleeza Rice got the Repub nomination and Hillary lost the Dem. primary?
Would you vote for Rice then?
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:39 PM
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40. Sure, why not...
as long as she has the time to cook, clean and do the laundry alongside her Presidential functions.

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