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Thu Oct-04-07 04:50 PM
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So... what candidate do you support? |
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:shrug:
I'll just have to say that my candidate isn't in this race and I'm starting to think he won't be either. Al Gore!
So, I have lived in the state that brought Bill and Hillary into the national spotlight, and I've found Hillary lacking...
I am not so sure about Obama
Kucinich has good ideas, but little money and little support
what happened to the democratic wing of the democratic party? :shrug:
I'm sure I'm asking for flames, but seriously, give me a reason to support someone, I'm struggling with it.
Obama is against the Iraq war, but my support seems to end there for him.
So, carry on, flame away, :D
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Thu Oct-04-07 04:52 PM
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1. I don't have a candidate. And I doubt I will. |
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I'll vote against Hillary in my late and meaningless primary, and for whoever is the nom in the general.
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Thu Oct-04-07 04:57 PM
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6. by the time the primaries get to my state |
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the candidate will have been chosen already
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Thu Oct-04-07 05:29 PM
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Thu Oct-04-07 04:53 PM
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....unless Gore enters the race
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Thu Oct-04-07 04:57 PM
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7. that's where I'm at too n/t |
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Thu Oct-04-07 04:53 PM
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3. I think we are all struggling with it. |
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I hate the idea that Hillary is being chosen for us by the media. Obama confuses me, Kucinich has no money, I like Dodd, I like Richardson, but they don't have a shot in hell, I love that Edwards is living on the edge, sometimes Biden makes me cheer.
Bottom line...I don't like Tweety telling me Hillary will be the one to get the nomination.
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Thu Oct-04-07 04:55 PM
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4. Tweety and Dick Morris |
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have been saying she would be for the last 8 years or so it seems
I am with you on your read though of the rest...
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Thu Oct-04-07 04:55 PM
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5. Ha, you won't suck me into that trap. |
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I have been interested in a couple of different candidates. But every time I exhibit that interest, I get mugged by DUers rabid for their own guy/gal.
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Thu Oct-04-07 04:58 PM
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8. I don't care if I get mugged |
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I've been mugged by worse for sure :P
I'm seriously struggling with the lack of an interesting candidate in my opinion
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Thu Oct-04-07 05:44 PM
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15. I don't know that my slowness to get behind anybody is a lack on THEIR part. |
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I just have a hard time generating any enthusiasm right now. Probably because I thoroughly believed that Gore was going to get in. I was saving myself for him. Now it looks like he isn't running and nobody else is really doing it for me. I kind of liked Edwards, but the longer this goes, the more I think that was left over from '04. Obama doesn't give me that 'brave leader' vibe. Hillary DEFINITELY has the "LEADER" vibe, but I am not sure about where she is leading. Kucinich has good ideas, but I honestly don't think he is good President material. Gravel, again, good ideas...doesn't impress me as a President. To me, a President is as much about the single person as it is about the team they put together.
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Thu Oct-04-07 05:27 PM
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9. I have no candidate, Gore is the only |
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one that I could really get behind, none of the ones running appeal to me in the least. :-( In the primary I will vote for the whichever one has the best chance of beating Hillary.
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Thu Oct-04-07 05:31 PM
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There's still time.
Some knucklehead on DU said Gore was going to endorse Hillary! Ugh! That would cause me severe attacks of vomiting.
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:22 PM
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20. that is kind of my feeling |
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i will support and vote for the dem candidate because that is what I do. I am a democrat, I've voted for Democrats all my voting life, since I was 18 years old.
Gore is my choice, but he isn't running.
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Thu Oct-04-07 05:27 PM
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My primary vote will go to Kucinich right now. I will also state that any candidate that is serious about trying to get public financing for elections will get consideration for my vote.
No on Hillary - corporate lackey who likes the status quo and accepts way too much corporate $$$ Totally ignores the NAFTA, CAFTA question so I assume she thinks these are good things that don't need to be changged. No real ideas on healthcare, Iraq, or education.
Maybe on Obama - Main problem - CFR affiliation, but has not accepted much in the way of corporate donation (good thing). No real plan for dealing with Iraq, healthcare, education. Totally ignores the NAFTA, CAFTA question so I assume he thinks these are good things that don't need to be changged.
Edwards - a little more of a populist. If it has to be one of the top 3, I would hope it is Edwards, as he has the most hope for implementing some change in a system that wants to play by its own rules (the corporation always wins) than by playing by the rules that actually benefit the regular citizens of this country. Again, no real ideas on healthcare, education, NAFTA, CAFTA, IRAQ etc.
Why I like Kucinich
Accepts almost no corporate funding. Really wants to buck the system and try to steer it as much as possible to the regular Joe. Against NAFTA, CAFTA, etc and has pledged to remove the US from those trade agreements. A big proponent of public financing of elections. His main problem is that he is not pretty (not good for the media cameras) and would run into makor roadblocks trying to change the system if elected and would run the risk of not getting much done because of the other two branches blocking his every move. Another thing that would sink DK is his wanting to downsize the military industrial complex. A move that wouldn't be able to be accomplished until public financing had been in place for a few years.
I gues I wouldn't mind an Edwards\Kucinich ticket. Any ticket with Hillary is just the same old status quo from DC with no real change (which this country needs desperately if we are to continue being the only world superpower or even keep our standards of living to a reasonable level).
Problems with Gore - Gore was a major proponent of NAFTA and the WTO as VP (He swore up and down during the debates with Perot that these trade agreements would be great for the US). If he decided to run, he would have to do a 180 on these agreements. These agreements are very bad for the environment and workers rights. Without removing America from these agreements he would not be able to affect any significant change in regards to the environment which he purports to be so concerned about. If Gore decided to run, that issue would be the main deciding factor on if I vote for Gore or not. I will even overlook who he is married to and the damage she inflicted on this country with the PMRC and the like.
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:23 PM
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21. one thing, is that by the time my state has primaries |
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it's all over basically...
little choice left.
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Thu Oct-04-07 05:32 PM
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is the only candidate i can stand behind. hes the only real democrat in the race.
unless Al gets in the race, which i am not holding my breath for.
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:24 PM
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22. if Dennis is still in the race by the time my primary comes |
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i might just vote for him too
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Thu Oct-04-07 05:39 PM
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14. I saw a Mondale/Fiengold bumper sticker. |
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I'm for Gore, Kucinich, Edwards, Obama, Clinton, Biden, Richardson, Dodd in that order.
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Thu Oct-04-07 07:06 PM
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exactly my list in the exact same order...
I fear the Gore placement is 'honorary' at this point tho.
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:25 PM
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Gore, Edwards, Kucinich for me
a lot less clear on my order for the rest
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Thu Oct-04-07 07:10 PM
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Kucinich...Edwards... moving closer toward reality.
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:25 PM
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gore/feingold
interesting...
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Thu Oct-04-07 07:10 PM
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18. Any that sees 300 million of us as Americans; not just 1,000 (give or take a dozen). |
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:26 PM
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25. and who would that be? n/t |
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:12 PM
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Wes Clark and Al Gore.
I can support any of the Dems that are in the running except Hillary.
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:26 PM
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still on his mailing list since 04
i'd support hillary if she gets the nomination
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Fri Oct-05-07 09:30 AM
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43. I would vote for Hillary if she got the nomination ~~ most likely.... |
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...but just because anything on the other side is soooooooo beyond bad and evil, I cannot find the words to decribe it.
While I would work for any Dem candidate for Prez besides Hillary and like I said I would vote for any of them including Hillary, if Clark or Gore were running, I would be out there busting my butt to get either or both of them elected and not just working for either or both of them.
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:26 PM
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26. The most progressive anti-war candidate that appears on the ballot. |
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Even if I have to write one in.
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:27 PM
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28. who would you write in? |
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:shrug:
maybe we should draft that person
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Thu Oct-04-07 11:27 PM
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42. Kucinich, Gravel, Sheehan.. |
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:30 PM
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Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 08:31 PM by RiverStone
It sounds like DK may fit the best for you based on what ya said (don't follow the money) - its about who best represents your ideals.
DK is the man for me minus one miracle - an Al Gore entrance.
I've said many times, Al is the ONLY candidate I'd trade my Kucinich vote for....
Of course, don't listen to me.
Its up to you.
Though more than anything, I hope you exercise your right to vote for who ever you chose!
peace~ :)
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:31 PM
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30. no one yet. . . . . .n/t |
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Thu Oct-04-07 08:37 PM
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31. Dennis Kucinich, on issues, record, and principle. |
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Not that my primary vote means anything, cast on May 20th.
Still, those are the things that drive my vote: issues, record, and principle.
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Thu Oct-04-07 09:19 PM
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32. Richardson is my first choice. -nt |
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Thu Oct-04-07 09:20 PM
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33. Any of our candidates, but hoping against hope for Al Gore. |
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Thu Oct-04-07 09:24 PM
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34. There's only ONE....and She's gonna win. |
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Thu Oct-04-07 09:25 PM
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35. Undecided. Too early to say. |
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Thu Oct-04-07 09:25 PM
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we're all fucked anyway so I'd rather vote my conscience than for the one with the most money and corporate appeal
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Thu Oct-04-07 09:31 PM
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37. I'm sorry Al is not running, southp. I support barack obama |
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Thu Oct-04-07 09:33 PM
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38. In the backstretch, it's .... |
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Kucinich in the lead by two lengths, followed by Edwards in second place by a half length over Obama in third place by a head, trailed by Biden in fourth place by a nose ahead of Dodd in fifth place by a head, trailed by Richardson in sixth place who's one length ahead of Gravel in seventh place with Clinton trailing the field by two lengths and increasing.
... and then came Beetlebomb!!
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Thu Oct-04-07 09:37 PM
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He's actually gaining support. He's for ending the war in Iraq. He's for restoring the constitution, habeas corpus, the geneva convention, and civil liberties.
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Thu Oct-04-07 09:42 PM
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40. Hoping Gore will get in but if not I'll probably go with Richardson or I could cast a protest vote. |
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My problem is that the presidency is not an entry level job. Richardson's got the credentials, unfortunately he's proved singularly inept at the sound bite game.
I like Obama a great deal but I don't see where in his resume theres much that indicates he could actually run the country--he could still win me over but it's not going to be easy.
I like Edward's populism but have a great deal of difficulty getting around the fact that he not only voted for but championed the Iraq War Resolution. That was a major lapse in judgment.
I like Biden's foreign policy realism but have problems with his championing that dreadful bankruptcy bill.
Dodd seems like a nice guy but he hasn't a snowball's chance in hell.
Clinton would fight like hell for the job--the question is should she have it.
Kucinich would be my choice for a protest vote if by the time my state holds it's primary the candidate had been picked already and the candidate happened to be Hillary Clinton--I could do worse.
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Thu Oct-04-07 10:07 PM
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Edited on Thu Oct-04-07 10:08 PM by mvd
He shares my views almost exactly on the occupation, health care, environment, death penalty, education, working to help the poor and middle class, tax burden, free trade, and more. Sometimes my rhetoric isn't as sharp, but he keeps things honest.
Despite my support for Kucinich, all of the Democratic candidates are well worth voting for IMO. Though my enthusiasm would be to different degrees.
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Fri Oct-05-07 09:33 AM
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44. Grandma told me prayers and |
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who i vote for should be kept to myself. I'll vote for a democrat.
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Fri Oct-05-07 10:17 AM
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45. Obama/Kucinich or maybe Gore/Obama |
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Fri Oct-05-07 10:52 AM
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46. Why so little discussion of Edwards on this forum? |
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I would support Gore. I think we need Clark. But right now I suppport Edwards.
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