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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:22 PM
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Whatever happened to the second set of Abu Graib photos
The ones roberts would never release and were supposed to be much much worse than the first ones that came out?
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:23 PM
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1. America is not stable enough to handle them. nt
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:24 PM
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2. rummy has them.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:24 PM
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3. We need a list of
whatever happened to:
ie all those subpoenas
There is a new outrage every day and it is impossible to keep up
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:26 PM
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6. I've been trying to remember
The past six years offense after offense starting with burying official records.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:25 PM
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4. OH BUT JAY WASN'T BRIEFED
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:25 PM
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5. Aren't there audio and/or video recordings too?
The ones Hersch mentioned way back?

Will those ever see the light of day?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:27 PM
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7. AUDIOS OF CHILDREN SCREAMING WHILE THEY WERE BEING RAPED?
HAVE YA HEARD THOSE JAY??
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:27 PM
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8. I heard there was a video
one that was supposed to be a real sick puppy, probably a snuff film.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:07 PM
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15. early on was an accusation of a video of a dead 11 year old girl being cut up with a chain saw for
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 03:07 PM by sam sarrha
convenient disposal... the girl was supposed to have been tortured to death.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:28 PM
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9. Sy Hersch had an article awhile back.
The second set were supposedly so bad that they couldn't be released. And, the Pentagon has copies of videos taken of brutality, torture, sodomy, rape, child rape and murder. Some members of the House and the Senate have seen them. John McCain has seen them for sure.

The US has tortured and probably still is.
A criminal AG and a criminal VP saying it isn't torture doesn't change the documented fact that US interrogators, military and CIA, tortured detainees and some innocent civilians.

"Torture by any other name, intimidates and kills the same."
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:35 PM
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10. I think we're grown up enough
to see what's been done in our name, now more than ever with torture being in the news again. That's what brought this to mind, was this us CIA or was it a private contractor blackwater maybe someone needs to pay dearly for this.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:38 PM
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11. I don't know if contractors were used, probably were
under the CIA's directive. When prisoners were taken to Syria or Eygpt or one of the European blacksites, who knows who was working in those places. I am sure there are enough disgusting crimes to go around for them all.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:41 PM
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12. Those pictures/audio/videos should be subpoenaed from the Pentagon NOW!
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:45 PM
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13. here are some
that could be part of them-

Caution- these are graphic, and the accounts disturbing-
http://www.chris-floyd.com/
hmmm.... the link I had is just a circle that doesn't show the pictures anymore-


here is a link which shows some of the pictures the other link used to- and has similar accounts.



http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2004/04/30/16790301.php

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:01 PM
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14. The court ordered them to be released several times
but declined to hold the administration in contempt when they refused to.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:08 PM
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16. Down the memory hole. nt
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:11 PM
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18. So it would seem
I hope somewhere down the road some historian will find them and report honestly on how depraved this era has been.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:10 PM
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17. Checey is mastrubating to them in his basement. n/t
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:22 PM
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19. It may be the only thing that will get him firm
thanks for the graphic yuck, I can see him with a folder of of pictures, a bottle of 40 weight desperately slapping his withered member.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:23 PM
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20. he divides his time between 911 tapes, Abu Greb and dead iraqi baby tapes.. he stays pretty busy
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:44 PM
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21. I keep thinking about the GIs who discovered the death camps
Is someone going to force us to see what we've done, take us to our camps and make us clean the mess up and hold us accounable to the world? I hope so, I really do we haven't learned a damn thing from those awful times if we skip away clean.
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