Tonight on Bill Moyer's journal

[AlCzervik]

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html
BILL MOYERS JOURNAL reports on the politically powerful group Christians United for Israel, whose leader, Pastor John Hagee, advocates for a preemptive strike against Iran.

[Hydra]

1. Bastards for the end of the world

:argh:

[nancyr]

2. Truly a man of God!

Can't have too many wars, can we?

[BrklynLib at work]

3. Those guys are a bunch of self-serving fundamentalist hypocrites who are no better than any of the

other "terrorists" that threaten peace in this world.

[TahitiNut]

4. Listen to Rabbi Michael Lerner! He's EXCELLENT (imho)

He's the editor of Tikkun and founded the Network of Spiritual Progressives with co-chairs Professor Cornel West and Benedictine Sister Joan Chittister.

I endorse him whole-heartedly. :thumbsup:

Read ...
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1104-01.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_of_Spiritual_Progressives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lerner_(rabbi)

[pnorman]

7. Thanks for that reference to Michael Lerner.

The name and Tikkum were familiar to me, but apparently not well enough. Here's from his Wiki:

Student activism

While at Berkeley, Lerner became a leader in the Berkeley student movement, a member of the executive committee of the Free Speech Movement, chair of the Free Student Union, and chair from 1966-1968 of the Berkeley chapter of the Students for a Democratic Society. After teaching philosophy of law at San Francisco State University, he took a job as an Assistant Professor of Philosophy at the University of Washington and taught ethics, social and political philosophy, philosophy of literature and culture, and introduction to philosophy. Angry at the SDS group called Weatherman, which had introduced violence into the anti-war movement in response to police violence, Lerner created a new organization as an alternative, called the Seattle Liberation Front. After police attacked a major demonstration that his organization had called to protest, the subsequent trial was the second nationally known federal trial against anti-war activists and became known as the Seattle Seven.

When federal agents testifying at the trial admitted to having played a major role instigating the violence and the riot, the pro-Nixon judge who presided sent the defendants to jail on the grounds of "contempt of court," and Lerner was transported out of the state of Washington (on the grounds that his supporters had so much public support that they might be able to "break him out" of the federal penitentiary in that state) to Terminal Island Federal Penitentiary in San Pedro, California, where Lerner served several months before the 9th Circuit Federal Appeals Court ordered Lerner released (despite the claim made by J. Edgar Hoover in a public statement repeated on radio and television that Lerner was "one of the most dangerous criminals in America" though he had never engaged in any act of violence). The main charges were eventually dropped by the Federal Government after the 9th Circuit overturned the conviction for contempt of court. Meanwhile, Lerner's contract was not renewed and the State of Washington Legislature had passed "the Lerner act" requiring that the University of Washington never hire anyone "who might engage in illegal political activity," a law later overturned by the Washington Supreme Court.

Sounds good enough for me!

pnorman

[judaspriestess]

5. is this the fuckwad from San Antonio?

On behalf of this some what sane Texan, I'm soooooo sorry for all the rascist, hateful warmongers coming out of Texas. :(

[AlCzervik]

6. yup the very same. It would be a really interesting show.

[TahitiNut]

8. Still one of the best hours anyone can spend watching TV.

Heck ... even doing anything.

Again, the story of Amish forgiveness moved me to tears. As I cringe in disgust at how base and vile humans can be to each other, I'm reminded of how astonishing people can be in embracing one another.

(Now... where's that puppy pile I want to wriggle into?)

[Blue_In_AK]

9. Ironic that these ultra right-wing Christians for Israel

are so Hitler-like in their demonizing of the "other," the Islamists.

[bobbolink]

10. I've come to expect it. We are no longer able to see our own complicity in any of this,

and that goes for us liberals right here on DU.

It's all "THEM".

We don't take the time and effort to ever really look at what WE do, and what WE need to change about ourselves.

How in the hell would we think that the "ultra right-wing" would do any different, if we can't?

I've given up any hope of peace.

None of us wants it badly enough.

[Blue_In_AK]

11. Peace does seem out of reach

but I'm not giving up hope yet. It may, or probably will, get a whole lot worse before it gets better, but ultimately we'll either figure out how to get along or we'll destroy ourselves. If we're all dead, I guess it won't matter.