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CT_Progressive Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:01 PM
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What do conservatives think of Hillary?
http://usconservatives.about.com/od/profiles/p/clinton_votes.htm

Abortion:
Hillary Rodham Clinton is strongly pro-abortion. In 2005 she voted 100 percent of the time with pro-abortion NARAL and 0 percent of the time with the National Right to Life Committee. For example, she voted:

* AGAINST banning partial birth abortions
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* AGAINST the Child Custody Protection Act. In other words, she did not vote to stop adults from taking teens across state lines in order to obtain abortions without their parents' knowledge.
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* FOR embryonic stem cell research
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* FOR permitting abortions in military hospitals - abortions paid for by taxpayers.

Gun Rights:
Senator Clinton is against full Second Amendment Rights. In 2006 the National Rifle Association gave her an "F" in protecting gun ownership rights. In 2005 she voted with Gun Owners of America 0 percent of the time. For instance, she has voted:

* AGAINST protecting gun owners from having their legally-possessed guns confiscated during a state of emergency.

Immigration:
Ms. Clinton has demonstrated some concern over illegal immigration, but she has only voted 8 percent of the time with the immigration reform group U.S. Border Control which is "dedicated to ending illegal immigration by securing our nation's borders and reforming our border and immigration policies." Americans for Better Immigration gave her a D. For instance, she did vote:

* FOR the Senate immigration reform bill, but voted
* AGAINST an amendment to require border enforcement before granting amnesty to illegals.
* AGAINST an amendment to protect Social Security from being used fraudulently by illegals.
* FOR an amendment to stop courts from deporting illegals.

Business:
Ms. Rodham Clinton had a poor rating with the National Federation of Independent Business, an organization dedicated to helping small businesses succeed. In 2005-2006, she voted only 12 percent of the time in line with the NFIB. For instance, she voted:

* AGAINST the Class Action Fairness Act, which sought to curb the rise of litigation against small businesses.
* AGAINST the creation of small-business health plans "through which small companies could band together to buy insurance for their employees."

War in Iraq:
Senator Clinton has voted to fund the War in Iraq, but has also been soft on Homeland Security. For instance, she voted:

* FOR emergency funds for Iraq and Afghanistan.
* AGAINST military commissions for trying unlawful combatants. This is a bill that John McCain(R-AZ) and Lindsey Graham(R-SC) - big advocates of fair treatment for Guantanamo Bay detainees - agreed to as good for national security while upholding basic human rights.

Flag Desecration:
Senator Clinton voted AGAINST a constitutional ban on flag burning.
Energy:
Senator Clinton voted:

* AGAINST drilling in ANWR
* AGAINST the SAFE Act, a common sense energy policy which passed in the Senate 88-11.
* AGAINST the Energy Policy Act of 2005 along with Ted Kennedy and John F Kerry.

Spending:
She does not shy away from government spending. In 2005, she earned a rating of 9 (out of 100) by the National Taxpayers Union, an organization that, "Seeks to reduce government spending, cut taxes, and protect the rights of taxpayers." She was only slightly less wasteful than big spenders Patty Murray(D-WA), John Kerry(D-MA) and Ted Kennedy(D-MA), who all received ratings of 7. Hillary was less frugal with taxpayer money than even Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Steny Hoyer (D-MD) who both earned a score of 13. In comparison, Trent Lott (R-MS) received a 70 and John Kyl (R-AZ) received an 87.

While Hillary Clinton may work to convince voters she is a moderate, her voting record demonstrates that she is quite liberal on many issues important to economic and social conservatives.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:02 PM
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1. Why would I give a flying fuck what a con thinks about ANYTHING?
Just asking.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:03 PM
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3. What he said.
:thumbsup:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:05 PM
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5. Because popular belief on DU is that she IS a conservative
Facts, such as what the OP posted, disprove that assertion.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:10 PM
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9. I do not believe she is a "Conservative" I believe she is a triangulating "centrist" CORPORATIST
I do not believe she has any interest in helping PEOPLE.
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CT_Progressive Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:05 PM
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6. Because they will be very critical of anything they view as non-conservative
Just a fyi.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:03 PM
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2. obviously they hate her--and Bill.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:09 PM
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8. I was a big fan of hillary and bill (especially bill) but when bill started
cozying up to bush daddy and hillary started cozying up to Murdoch, I started seeing a lot more of the faults...and now that she is running for president I see even more...and the list gets longer everyday...
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nancyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:04 PM
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4. Conservatives think she is the spawn of SATAN.
They are chomping at the bit with anticipation that she will be our nominee. I'm old enough to remember their hatred, and it hasn't changed.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:06 PM
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7. They will come out to vote just to vote against her, regardless of the Republican candidate.
I would imagine it is much the same way Repubs used gays and abortion to get out the vote in 2004.
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 06:06 PM
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13. Absolutely.
The Republicans' best shot in '08 is if Clinton gets the nomination, otherwise they're toast.

I just can't believe how many people buy into this crap about her "electability". Yeah, among Democrats.

There is no other Dem candidate that will mobilize the Right more than Clinton. I think a lot of Republicans might be inclined to sit this election out since they're candidates suck, but they just might be motivated enough just to vote against Clinton. This is obvious to me, but maybe that's because I understand Republicans more than most around here. I'm the black sheep in a large, conservative family - I know how they think.

I'm gonna be really scared if she gets nominated. The Republicans will beat her. Count on it.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:13 PM
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10. Which cons are you talking about?
The millionaires, the billionaires or the unwashed suckers?

My guess is that most of the richie-riches are just fine with her.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 04:15 PM
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11. There main agenda is the WAR
so they should love her...maybe her and Lieberman can work somthing out.
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CT_Progressive Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:53 PM
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12. They seem to disagree with you.
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