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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:05 PM
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Bush must have something on the sitting Dems in Congress (Blackmail)
you know all those wire taps?? well I suspect that Bushco has spent the last 5 years digging up dirt on everyone in congress and is holding it for release if they don't vote his way.

you know.. BLACKMAIL

it is the only explanation I can find for all those votes that went south on all these important bills...

Cant get 60 votes in the senate? They probably have already blackmailed their way to being veto proof!
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:06 PM
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1. Or a vial of Anthrax. n/t
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:25 PM
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17. Up until not too long ago...
I would have thought this was a preposterous idea. I'm not so sure any more.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:06 PM
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2. You really think all that NSA spying is on terrists???? think again!!!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:09 PM
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3. It's so easy.
There is not a soul on the Hill that doesn't have something they would go to any lengths to hide.

Kids. Drugs, sex and rocknroll.

Spouse and the poolboy.

On and on.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:09 PM
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4. I hope you are right, and as sad as that is...
it's not as sad as the thought that they AREN'T being blackmailed. :(
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:11 PM
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5. I don't believe that.
That is to say that some fool like bushitler could hold something over each individual in Congress that is worth having men and women sacrificed in the bushitler war is better than fessing up with what bushitler might have from then, now, or in the future, which is to say that they are bushitler cronies too, and I do not believe that for one damn second.
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 01:53 PM
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24. People can be had by blackmail
that is why it has been so effective for 3000 years!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:12 PM
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6. Then how do you explain
Senator Leahy, who authored the habeas restoration act and the war profiteering prevention act, and has been openly critical of the admin?
How do you explain Feingold, or Kennedy or Kerry?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:14 PM
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8. Well, There Are A Few Actual Democrats
But Rahm and Schumer will take care of that.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:13 PM
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7. Nah - That's Actually The Strategy Of The Congressional "Democrats" At Work
The Clintons taught them that if you position yourself just slightly, ever so slightly, to the left of Republicans then people will vote for you because you suck a little else. After all, we can only vote for a Republican or a Democrat - voting for a third party would be akin to killing bunnies with chainsaws, no? So sucking a little less will win the day.

And so we have the "We Suck Slightly Less, Who Else You Gonna Vote For, Assholes?!" Democrats.

Ain't it great!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:21 PM
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9. Dems are part of the Plutocracy.
Dems support the MIC, Oil Corps, & Multi-Natls. The differences are slight. After the Repugs & Dems talk against each other in public they get together at their watering holes & cocktail parties and joke around about the Peasants that they are fleecing.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:50 PM
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13. Oh Come On
Next you'll be telling us that McCain and Mrs. Clinton engage in vodka-chugging contests.

What? http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/NYT_Senators_Clinton_McCain_held_vodkadrinking_0728.html">they actually did?

Nevermind.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:04 AM
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22. All but 22 members of congress are millionaires.
That's what I heard a candidate say, anyway.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:14 PM
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15. Well, this is one progressive that the DLC dems ARE NOT going to take
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 09:15 PM by Emillereid
for granted. I am not even sure if they suck a little less. There are degrees of suckiness? Now that's a philosophical conundrum -- sucky is just that -- it's sucks! I am so tired of this democratic strategy -- they position themselves sort of progressive for the primary, and then ever so slightly to the left of the repukes for the general election, knowing full well that the progressives and minorities have nowhere else to go -- and then LOSE ANYWAY! Ain't politics in these United States just great?
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mooseprime Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:21 PM
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10. i have had the
exact same thought myself, the only thing that really fits. sadly, it's so likely as to be mundane.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:44 PM
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12. Plutocracy-Forms of Control
Plutocracy-Forms of Control

A Plutocracy is a government controlled by that minuscule percentage of extremely wealthy individuals found in most societies. In many forms of government, those in power benefit financially, sometimes enough to belong to the aforementioned wealthy class.

Classically, a plutocracy was an oligarchy, which is to say a government controlled by the wealthy few. Usually this meant that these ‘plutocrats’ controlled not only the executive, legislative and judicial aspects of government, but also most of the natural resources, including the armed forces. To a certain degree, there are still some situations in which private corporations and wealthy individuals may exert such strong influence on governments, that the effect can arguably be compared to a plutocracy.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:44 PM
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11. "the only explanation I can find" is Congress members vote their own minds n/t
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:52 PM
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14. They vote in accordance to how it may benefit them, personally.
They all have their own little fiefdoms.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 10:46 PM
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18. That's just disturbed.
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 10:47 PM by L. Coyote
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:21 PM
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16. So, you think they are engaged in actions so bad they can be blackmailed?
Actions so scandalous they would rather prop up a war criminal and sell out the people than have their secrets revealed?

Alrighty then.

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 10:51 PM
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19. How do you argue with thinking founded on a false assumption? Just like the Rs
is all I can say. If it thinks like an R, and talks like an R, and smells like an R ....

I would like to vote this kind of flawed reasoning out from under the big tent, but that would make me more like an R too!
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:15 PM
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20. is it possible that bush and the gopigs
threatened to reveal some unbelievable fact about the state o the nation that would bring down the entire house of cards- cause rioting and bloodshed etc? Is it possible that the dems, and even a few sensible repubs, have been told 'off the record' what would happen if they tried to get rid of bush too indescriminately? Not to them but to the country?
Why is it easier to attribute cowardice or greed or personal ambition or even stupidity to the 'adults' in our politics, especially after everyone can see what the busheviks have done right out in the open? 911 happened out in the open; them air defense exercises which tied up the USAF wild cards, took place in the open (though the pigmedia have yet to mention them to wide audience)The vital role of cnn in the unfolding WTC drama which blamed Marinus Vander Lubbe and the arabs took place out in the open. The justification for war against the Iraqi people took place in public, almost embarassingly so. Even the 2000 election fraud took place out in the open (radio stations in floriduh told voters dems voted the day after the repubs voted, for example!) Seeing the democrats opponents as proactive regards bush put the onus on them when the onus should be stuck on the busheviks, 24/7 until they are gone....
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:48 PM
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21. No need for conspiracy theories.
The Dems are acting in a perfectly understandable and rational way.

1) some are simply bought off by corporate interests.

2) others know that they can pander to the right without repercussions, because terrorized liberals will support them no matter what they do.
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 01:00 PM
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23. .
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