Immigration: What is your position on immigration in the United States?

[Quixote1818]

This was from that candidate quiz though I tweaked several of the questions.

I am in favor of stiffer fines for employers though illegal immigration is not something I am too concerned with. I think the problems lies more with employers using illegals so they can pay them slave wages. As Thom Hartman said:

"If you can't afford to pay someone a good wage then you shouldn't be in business".

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. How about this one: Were all just visitors on this planet, live & let live.

In the end who really cares about any of this shit?

[Quantess]

17. OMG, you are are the definition of **"Casual"**

aren't you?:rofl:

[EFerrari]

2. Other: stop sabotaging democracy in Latin America

so people can stay home where they want to be in the first place.

[hedgehog]

3. I'm with you -

how about a Marshall Plan for South America while we're at it?

[emlev]

6. Absolutely! I didn't answer this question on the candidate quiz because

I disagreed with all the choices given.

[Quixote1818]

11. Mee too nt

[TahitiNut]

7. That's an essential part of any resolution.

Repeating the fraudulent 'solution' of 20 years ago obviously doesn't work. Unless and until there's a resolve to actually enforce SOME law, it makes little difference what the law says ... other than the fact that it's used as a hypocritical game to exploit human beings - those here legally, those here illegally, and people in other countries.

[JanMichael]

21. Bingo. That's why I voted "other".

We need to stop screwing up other nations so we can make a buck.

[blondeatlast]

22. Exactly. nt

[flashl]

27. Agree and fix the immigration system n/t

[Didereaux]

4. Instead of fining the employer, make them...

...pay the costs of deportation for each illegal. That is a first step in resolving the problem. The second step is the difficult one, discouraging the notion that 'big' money can be had here...oh not the laborers, the Mexican Government. The US Dollars returned to Mexico are either #2or #3 in the sources of the GNP of Mexico. The government is the beneficiary.

Then after the flood is stemmed, put in place a workable, enforceable worker greencard system. Also to fully patch the 'hole' it will be necessary to amend the Constitution such that automatic citizenship is NOT given to babies born on US soil. That is a 19th century relic that has no valid reason for its existance in todays complicated world.

I have never yet heard a valid argument against encouraging another nations peoples to build their own America...without our INTERFERENCE!

Comprende?

[Honeycombe8]

16. Not only that...how 'bout making the employers provide full health ins. benefits to their illegal

How 'bout making employers provide full health insurance benefits for their illegal immigrant employees and their families, at no cost to the employees? That cost would be more than a simple fine (even a stiff fine), and would quickly curb the hiring of those employees. The plus side of that for citizens (besides having more jobs, once the illegals are no longer hired) is that their taxes will quit having to go up so much to pay for the health care and education of illegals and their families. Very expensive.

Of course, first we have to pay for more federal enforcement employees to find the employers, since they rarely phone in to report that they are hiring illegals.

[mark414]

5. a fence is the most useless, dumbest, and biggest waste of money since the missile defense system

it is time to acknowledge the reality of the situation...nobody rational is calling for a wide open border policy and declaring a "War on Illegals" (deportation for all!) would be about as successful as the War on Drugs or the War on Poverty; in other words, an abject failure.


Stiffer fines, yes. And the employers are the root of the problem, along with NAFTA and our continuing support and contribution to a terrible Mexican and in general Central/Latin American economy. If people want immigrants to stop coming and "taking our jobs" (what a lie that is), then push people to stop offering the jobs (if you build it...they will come).

All this hysteria needs to stop and we need an effective, rational and logical solution to this. Not xenophobic saber rattling.

Anybody remember the Chinese Exclusion Act? What about N.I.N.A. (No Irish Need Apply)?

no, i didn't think so

[Quixote1818]

10. I agree 100% plus no more Jaguars would come into the US from Mexico

With global warming all kinds of species are starting to move north. We might start seeing Boa Constrictors, more Jaguars and even Parrots here in New Mexico.

People on the other hand would just go over, under and around a wall.

[mark414]

13. wild animals are pretty much the only things a fence would keep out

[proud2BlibKansan]

8. Several of the above

[piedmont]

9. #1, 3, and what sfexpat said. nt

[leftysopaw]

12. i think all europeans should be deported immediately

all they do is come here and cause all sorts of problems.

[Quantess]

18. Danged Europeans, LOL! Only if pronounced

Ya-rope-ians!
:rofl:

[leftysopaw]

24. hilarious!

[EFerrari]

19. They refuse to assimilate, they speak that English everywhere

they make messes all over the place, they're taking our jobs and they have no respect for the law. They can't even decide which flag to carry in their damn parades!

lol

[leftysopaw]

23. lol

[kitp]

14. other - shoot 'em

there is no immigration problem in the u.s. other than the rich white folk like biasing the quotas to keep darkies out.
course that's been the case for like EVER.

we have an economic aristocracy exploiting people where ever it can. usually by supporting fascist regimes, kind a like HERE.

the immigrants are our brothers and sisters in suffering. the "solution" to the "problem" is to shoot the fascist aristocrats and embrace our fellow suffers.

[Mojorabbit]

15. It will be a big problem down the road

with Mexico's oil fields in decline and that revenue to support it's govt shrinking. We will see mass migration of people in the future. We need to come up with a sane policy and a fence ain't it.

[rucky]

20. 2 & 3. n/t

[Colorado Progressive]

25. I wish we would spend more of our money helping Mexico and less on this stoopid war.

And legalizing drugs here would help, since our drug money pays for so many of the violent thugs down there. Saying build a fence is like putting a band-aid on cancer. Those people have shit lives, why else would they risk them trying to come over here?

[DaveJ]

26. Other

Legal citizenship should involve having some sort of standards that are consistent with the ideals of the U.S., which haven't been met for the past 6 years. I think Democratic politicians already have this on their agenda.

With regard to non-citizens, they should be treated as fairly as citizens in regard to jobs, and not used as a resource for cheap labor. However, there should be some motivation for the to gain citizenship such as the ability to collect unemployment, social security, etc. At the same time, healthcare and education should be available to all. It's not that complicated.

[spindoctor]

28. Already there are stiff fines for hiring illegals.

I know that slaughter houses for example get frequent inspections and have to pay a serious fine if illegal workers are found on the premises.

But who's gonna check the roofers, the cleaning ladies, the small construction companies and the small farms?

And it's not just about paying decent wages. It is about consumers refusing to pay decent prices. The reason Walmart is going down the tubes is because we walmartized the whole country. We want it all, we want it now and we want it for next to nothing.

But frankly, I think this whole illegal immigrant "problem" is blown way out of proportion. We should call it what it is, the latest xenophobic reaction to oh so scary Mexicans. But rest assured, amigos. Once the bottom falls out of our economy, we will all go back to mowing our own lawns...with a push mower.