CACHED: Mark Penn's (Clinton 'top strategist') union-busting webpage before he scrubbed it

[Bluebear]

"Companies cannot be caught unprepared by Organized labor's campaigns!" "Your partner to achieve your business goals" "We have strong ties to those that influence labor policy" . . . I could vomit.

[antigop]

1. Can union-busting tactics be used on campaigns? n/t

[formercia]

2. Good catch.

I bet they work closely with the Chamber of Commerce as well.

[golddigger]

3. It's going to kill me...

To have to vote for her if she wins the primary!


:(

[lateo]

8. Such a sad comment in more ways that one.

It is sad that you have to compromise your principles and it is sad that this is the kind of candidate the Democrats are putting forward.

[Individualist]

10. "have to vote for her"

Silly me! I thought we have the right to vote for whomever we choose. If she's the nominee, I'll write-in Kucinich.

[frog92969]

26. I second that

I will NOT vote for HRC!

[lostnotforgotten]

36. I Will Never Vote For Hillary Because Of Iraq

This only makes it easier for me to hold my head high as the Republicans once again take control of this country because we Democrats allow the DLC to rule our political destiny with the likes of Hillary.

[HeraldSquare212]

4. They maintain ties with organizations that influence labor policy

I can think of one such organization...

[Bluebear]

5. You said it. nt

[Octafish]

6. NAFTA, anyone?

In Michigan, about half of all jobs were in the manufacturing sector. Good paying jobs that made it possible to build a middle class. Today, there are about 14-percent manufacturing jobs.

I wonder where the money is these days?

[gateley]

20. And Lou Dobbs said in the mid 80's meat packers made about $18/hr, they

now make around $9/hr.

[Joanne98]

7. No surprise here. The Clintons hate labor unions!

After all, they done so much to destroy them with their globalization projects. Long live neo-liberalism! sarcasm!!!!!!!

[Canuckistanian]

9. Burson-Marstellar is a slimy organization in general

Read SourceWatch's entry on them:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Burson-Marsteller

They're as bad a Hill & Knowlton, the PR group famous for the fake Kuwaiti "baby incubator" story:

[SOS]

11. Destroying unions to increase corporate profits...

Disgusting.

[papau]

12. I believe that web page went up before Penn was hired as CEO - and has come down under Penn n/t

n/t

[Omaha Steve]

13. In Senator Clinton's defense

Her Senate voting record on Labor is near perfect. It has been posted and discussed in the GDP and Labor Forums in the past. She did not do labor or working families any favors while on the Wal-Mart board that I can tell. She did try to advance women in the lower jobs there though.

[leftist_not_liberal]

14. Yes, it is all very complicated and nuanced

when one attempts to serve two masters.

Why she and Bill both didn't run as Republicans is a mystery to me.

Or maybe a conspiracy.

[gateley]

21. Thanks for posting this. Although I really question her affiliation with this

guy, it's not fair to assume she's anti-labor. Her record says otherwise.

[lynnertic]

30. her record as in her time on the board of Wal-Mart?

[mod mom]

31. "She did not do labor or working families any favors while on the Wal-Mart board"

any details? links? please

[SOS]

40. Link

"Mrs. Clinton’s six-year tenure as a director of Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest company, remains a little known chapter in her closely scrutinized career. And it is little known for a reason. Mrs. Clinton rarely, if ever, discusses it, leaving her board membership out of her speeches and off her campaign Web site.

Fellow board members and company executives, who have not spoken publicly about her role at Wal-Mart, say Mrs. Clinton used her position to champion personal causes, like the need for more women in management and a comprehensive environmental program, despite being Wal-Mart’s only female director, the youngest and arguably the least experienced in business. On other topics, like Wal-Mart’s vehement anti-unionism, for example, she was largely silent, they said."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/us/politics/20walmart.html

[mod mom]

41. Thank you for this information.

:hi:

[Forkboy]

15. He's a charmer, alright.

Nice catch.

[Karenina]

16. You are known

by the company you keep. Well, THAT'S what I was taught...

[depakid]

19. Noy just known, but influenced

by the company that you keep. We can see that all over the Clintons' last tenure in the White House.

[Nutmegger]

17. Sickening!

R&K!

:thumbsup::kick:

[Divine Discontent]

34. so, Brian, how's that novel coming along, hmm? n/t

[caligirl]

18. since returning unions to promenance is important to restoring the

middle class this is a big problem. this guy is bad news. I was sitting on the fence hoping my fav Al Gore would jump in. i am still sitting on the fence and where hil is concerned i will sit on that fence longer.

[gateley]

22. Check out Post #13 from Omaha Steve. He's just the PR guy, he's not going

to change her mind on policy. She'll be telling HIM what to do. Gotta be fair, here.

[Bluebear]

28. Gore fired him because he was arrogant & pushy and would NOT limit himself

to what he was hired to do, present poll data objectively. Penn is a snake and I do not trust that his agenda is not interfering on Clinton's campaign.

[SaveAmerica]

29. Or did Bill recommend him to Gore, Gore found out Penn was not the kind

of person he wanted on his team because of all this stuff that's coming out now, and used the arrogant, pushy line to remove him while not rocking the boat with Bill during an election.

[RaleighNCDUer]

35. You don't hire people just because they are talented.

You hire them because they are talented in fields you need support in, and hold positions you agree with.

She's LOOKING for anti-labor help, she hires Penn.

[Bluebear]

37. :nodding:

[killbotfactory]

23. I sure am glad this asshole is her top advisor

a fucking union buster. Unbelievable... well until you remember who's responsible for NAFTA, opening up trade with China, etc...

[Divine Discontent]

24. The Clintons sure are making it appear they hate Unions.

First Bill, with one of the two issues I was upset with him for, resigning NAFTA(the welfare agreement). This needs to be made into a commercial by moveon or one of the other candidates. The seeping out of bad things about Clinton is rather disturbing. She's a moderate to begin with, but she said troops to be in Iraq for 5 more years, she voted for the Kyl/Lieberman gift to Bushler, she has Indian connections where a lot of our jobs went, and now this.


My mostly positive thoughts on Bill withstanding, I don't want Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton/Bush etc... enough. They should make it you cannot be president if your mother father sister or brother were also president - it sets things up to be too much of a dynasty that can do whatever they want.

I'm surely hoping that Obama, Biden or John Edwards will surge in the next couple weeks. If not, maybe Al will step in the race to stop her.

Someone, please tell me why I shouldn't be so against her, because she's making me hope she has a tourette's moment in the next debate to end her chances. I'm starting to feel she's not even trustworthy. Maybe it's just late...

[nolabels]

25. If it lasts more than a couple of weeks a doctor will often deem it chronic

Often getting rid of the disease requires something stronger than the disease is able to withstand. What the cure is i have no clue but the disease is quite obvious :shrug:

[Richard Steele]

27. K&R

[RoccoR5955]

32. Unions are our weapon...

...in the ever-present class war. Unions are patriotic, as they help people, not corporations get what they deserve, and keep it.

This company is treasonous, and Clinton should get rid of them asap!

I want to destroy ANY organization that wants to bust unions.

[Botany]

33. He worked to prep Prince of Blackwater for his hearings & worked

at "union busting" too? Nice guy.



You can tell a lot about people by who they have around them.

[natrat]

38. clinton/corporocracy related not surprising -she would sell out to the devil-oh she has

[Gold Metal Flake]

39. K&R

[Richard Steele]

42. Kick

[a kennedy]

43. Thanks for this.....

and I never did vote for the first clinton, and will search my heart long and hard before I ever vote for another one, unless she IS the nominee. D*mn this is hard to swallow. :grr: