Hillary=Corporate lawyer. Edwards=Trial Lawyer . We need a Trial lawyer. (rant)

[librechik]

We have a huge problem with corporations acting illegally and penetrating the government to the nth degree, disenfranchising and disempowering we the people.

Edwards has beaten the corporations at their own game, repeatedly. He has demonstrated his allegiance is to the common American, not to corporate interests, although, of course, I can see with my own eyes he is compassionate and diplomatic, therefore able to converse and negotiate with anyone, even powerful tycoons. But he isn't dazzled and seduced by their power, and has wrestled them to the ground for the sake of one little girl, for example.

Hillary was and is a corporate lawyer. I can see with my own eyes that she shows an uncomfortable friendliness to the corporate side even today. She has some great policies, but I don't trust her to reform the health industry, NAFTA or CAFTA, or stand up with the union against management. I haven't heard her say what we must hear about electronic voting. Her fascinating history is an inspiration to me, but has already been turned against her in the most vicious way by the RW kleptocracy and their idiotic followers.

Please, let's not get behind Brand Hillary. I'm begging you, :tinfoilhat: before the primaries, when the process will be turned against us anyway (apparently--didn't we want Dean? Did we get Dean? WHY???) Will Hillary make a legendary Secretary of State? I'm sure she would excel at any position she is entrusted with. I just don't think AS PRESIDENT she is going the way the American people want and need to go. The Republicans are poison this year, and Hillary is just the name they recognize most easily as a non-Republican.

And I'm not even sure that's true, just what the media want everyone to believe. She is very conservative, just like Bill. I am livid that they are nudging us toward her so blatantly. What are the real motives of these Republican contributors and defense contractors disguised as our news media when they promote Hillary? Do they want her to win or lose? Who knows?

Maybe all lawyers are untrustworthy. However I know that Trial lawyers are trained to be adversaries against corporate interests and win. And that, IMO is what we need now. We need to win against some powerful nasty corporations. Electing a lawyer trained to advantage corporations would be a grave mistake.

If Hillary is the candidate, I must and will support her. ABB.

Forgive me, Hillary folks. We need a lawyer (ack-we do!) who has won AGAINST corporations.

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. tell me who her clients were and what she fought for

I do know that she has championed for children her whole career, but I would like to know what she worked for, who she volunteered for. You are making some general statements and conclusions based on really nothing specific.

[librechik]

6. She slanted her career toward public service, which I admire, of course. However

she was trained as and worked as a corporate lawyer, according to Wikipedia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Law_Firm

In the economic realm, Rose has been termed "the ultimate establishment law firm"<1> in the state; during the 1970s, for example, its clients included Tyson Foods, Wal-Mart, large brokerage Stephens, Inc., Worthen Bank, and the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette and other Hussman family media holdings.<1>

Hillary Rodham Clinton was the firm's first female associate, and soon first female partner, during her husband Bill Clinton's tenure as Governor of Arkansas, and Webster Hubbell was also a partner before serving as Assistant Attorney General under President Clinton. Clinton administration deputy White House counsel Vince Foster was a partner, as well.

I like her. I'm just saying.

[Evergreen Emerald]

11. wikipedia is not a reliable source.

[librechik]

12. are you saying she didn't work for the Rose Law Firm 1976-1978?

you should fix that if you have conflicting info.

[Evergreen Emerald]

14. I am saying that she has worked for human rights and rights of children

her whole life. And to suggest that she is a "corporate lawyer" and attempt to parse the difference between Edwards law practice and Clinton's sounds a bit like the neo-con arguments against Edwards and Clinton. It is all BS. She is an intelligent attorney with values and morals and who takes her work very seriously.

[NYCGirl]

2. Obama = Civil Rights lawyer.

That would be my choice.

[librechik]

4. Didn't he just say it would be a waste of time to prosecute this admin

and he wouldn't if he is elected?

Excuse me, but fuck that. I want them nailed and hard so they won't do it again. IMO, Edwards could do that, since all they are is corpoarte thieves.

[NYCGirl]

5. No, not exactly:

http://www.charlotte.com/breaking_news/story/308764.html

During his speech, he also declared the surge has failed in Iraq and he would close the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba where enemy combatants are being held.

But, Obama said, he would not use the Department of Justice to investigate the administration if elected. "I don't want to waste time as president spending all our time looking backwards. I want to look forward," Obama said, adding the caveat that if evidence of criminal activity arose, he would expect it to be pursued by the Justice Department.

[librechik]

8. How is he going to make them do that?

I would like to see him more interested in prosecuting these people since anyone can see they are criminals. I can't believe he would hedge on that at this point. Oh well.

I like Obama too. I just think Edwards is saying more of what needs t be said. They all have to be too careful with their statements.

[amandabeech]

9. Okay, so who will get it to "arise?"

Will he sick the FBI on them or wait for the GAO or Congress to do the "arisng?"

I don't want to shove this stuff under the table.

I know Obama wants to move forward, but sometimes you have to clean up first.

[Donnachaidh]

13. and what is Hillary's take on prosecuting Bush? Or Obama?

I doubt either one would get behind that notion either. Bill cleaned up after Pioppy Bush - Hillary will most likely do the same for the Chimpenfuhrer.

[havocmom]

3. That he has beaten giant corporations who tried to run over little guys

is why giant corporations want to shower his major opponent with cash. They know he will whittle their undo power down in the public arena by throwing light at them. My guess is the gentleman knows which way to shine some light.

[upi402]

7. clinton = corporatist eom

[JDPriestly]

10. Has Hillary ever advised us of her conflicts list, that is a list of all the

clients she worked for. An attorney has an everlasting duty of confidentiality and also a different duty of loyalty to past and present clients. Any attorney who runs for office should have to disclose to someone, not necessarily the public, to whom she owes these duties. An attorney has to do that when obtaining a job with a new law firm. Why shouldn't an attorney have to do that when taking public office? What if the attorney has to consider a matter while in public office that concerns the company he or she has represented in the past? I'd like to know that Clinton, Obama, Giuliani, Thompson, and any other lawyer who has worked for private companies (as opposed to those who were prosecutors or public defenders or government employees) should disclose his or her conflicts list to some independent oversight entity.

I am unaware that Edwards ever worked for corporations. I'm an Edwards supporter, and yes, I think that we need a consumer attorney for president for a change. That in and of itself would be a big change.

[Yael]

15. A big change and a welcome change. n/t

[aquart]

16. Conflicts list? When was the last time she practiced law?

[JDPriestly]

17. Doesn't make any difference.

Certain of the duties of an attorney last on and on.