I Dun Opened My Mouth Again..

[rsmith6621]

Paraphrased....

.....Today on my way home from the office a church across the street from my Memphis home had about 40 members standing on the sidewalk with signs that said...Abortion Kills A Child....Well....I Dunn had to Opened My Mouth Again..


I pulled over across the street and walked across...the pastor approached me and ask if I wanted a sign...I said NO!!!...I just wanted to say my peace as well...he asked what that was...I saidAn Illegal War KILLS and Tears Family's Apart...Divides a Nations...And place the Sin of a President upon a Whole Nation

He asked me to clarify..I said we have killed over 600K innocent Iraq citizens.....US family's have lost loved ones fighting and the divorce rates of those family's are sharply up historically compared to other wars,innocent Soldiers are crippled for life and the President still keeps lying about why we are in Iraq and won't listen to us the citizens...

He said bush hasn't lied I then asked the pastor why did we go to war in Iraq...he said cause they were the one who attacked us..I then asked is that the only reason Bush has said...Yes he said....I said what about...WMDs...Mushroom Clouds..Aluminum Tubes...UN Children feeding programs that Saddam was suppose to be pilfering ...Giving a country some freedom...ridding a country of an evil dictator...He said those were never reasons Bush used.....I said pastor your in DEEP DENIAL....before you sin more you best do some research and check the facts...until then you shouldn't be imposing what you call a SIN on others....Living in a LIE is a SIN in itself and is costing this country much for years to come....I was asked to leave the property...I said gladly but you should re-read about the Jewish people in the bible..

I then went home...

disclaimer...the word DUNN is spelled wrong for effect...don't get excited.

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. I applaud you.

Well said I am so tired of the hypocrisy.

[Demeter]

2. I Appreciate the Effort

Who knows, in a hundred years of constant confrontation with Reality, they might wake up. Or they'll be dead, and not a force any longer. Sigh. History will only go at its own pace. But we must try anyway.

[SeattleGirl]

3. Good on ya!

:thumbsup:

[HysteryDiagnosis]

4. I dunn get excited needer. Good on you for trying to talk sense

to the blind.

[lpbk2713]

5. And he might like to know how much misery could have been avoided ...

... if the hundreds of billions of $$$ that were squandered on that criminal bogus war were used constructively on things like medical research, education, and health care just to name a few worthwhile expenditures.

[supernova]

6. Ya DUN good, rsmith!

:thumbsup: :applause:

[lordsummerisle]

7. Very courageous and thanks for setting a great example n/t

[jackster]

8. BRAVO!

WELL DUNN!

[bluerum]

9. If you were in town I would take you out for dinner.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

10. Excellent!

Once the argument was lost, he pulls the Get Off The Property bit.

Ya dun good :pals:

[Postman]

11. This country has an overabundance of mindless fools such as this "Pastor"

And I'm sure this fool will claim to have a direct line to "God" suckering all the mindless idiots following such blather....

[louis-t]

12. They were in my neighborhood, too.

It must have been a nationwide effort, although I hadn't heard about it before. I was tempted to pull over and do the same as you, but you have more guts than I.

[daninthemoon]

13. Well dunn! At this point only the amazingly uninformed can possibly

still be backing bushler. And with such vehemence and conviction. It's a damn shame this man's congregation may be looking to him for political leadership. Might be even more a shame they look to him for spiritual leadership. Any chance he may actually look into the truth you laid on him? What about the parishioners, how many were paying attention?

[HughMoran]

14. Wow! that was a supposed religious person?

That person sounded like the anti-religious - as in pure deception and hatred.

Amazing how many right-wingers don't even know what the truth is.

[Pyrzqxgl]

43. Probably the anti-Christ or one of his minions.

[gateley]

15. Wow. I admire you your convictions and willingness to share them. I would

FANTASIZE about doing what you did, but not have the guts to actually do it. I applaud you! :applause:

[Hepburn]

16. Amen to you!

:applause:

[Ian David]

17. Over 1,280,000 or more innocent Iraqis have been "Posthumous Liberated" and 8 million worldwide

Here's one place that puts the figure at over 2 million. I don't know how reliable it is, but Lancet puts the number at over 1,280,000.

That's one million, two hundred and eighty thousand.

Dead.

Two Million Iraq Deaths,
Eight Million Bush Asian Holocaust Deaths And Media Holocaust Denial
By Dr Gideon Polya
07 October, 2007
Countercurrents.org

Recently Countercurrents published an expert analysis by outstanding US medical epidemiologists Professor Burnham (Johns Hopkins University ) and Professor Roberts (Columbia University) in which they commented trenchantly on the Mainstream media NON-reportage of the latest UK ORB survey indicating over 1 million violent post-invasion Iraqi deaths (see Countercurrents: http://www.countercurrents.org/burnham230907.htm ) . These world’s top medical epidemiologists concluded that, QUOTE: “Ignorance of Iraq death toll no longer an option … Established methods for estimating deaths exist, even in times of war. Discussion of trends and policy effects based on meaningful and validated measures such as median income and death rates would make our leaders more accountable and leave us better informed. Deliberately ignoring the numbers of dead Iraqis is not an option worthy of the United States , or in our enlightened self-interest.”

The following analysis reveals that the total VIOLENT and NON-VIOLENT post-invasion Iraqi excess deaths now total 1.5-2.0 million and that the total excess deaths in the Bush I and Bush II Asian Wars now total 8 MILLION. Mainstream media ignoring of this horrendous, ongoing mass murdering of ethnically or culturally SEMITIC Indigenous peoples amounts to near-comprehensive anti-Semitic Holocaust Denial. However, as pointed out by Professors Burnham and Roberts, such DENIAL is very dangerous both for the victims and the perpetrators.

Rational Risk Management involves successive processes of (a) data acquisition (b) scientific analysis and (c) systemic change to minimize risk - however spin-based Holocaust Denial simply substitutes (a) lying by omission and commission), (b) anti-science spin and (c) hysteria- and ignorance-driven “blame and shame” instead of risk-minimizing systemic change.

The top UK market research company ORB has recently reported 1.2 million post-invasion VIOLENT DEATHS in Occupied Iraq, this being consonant with an estimate of 0.8 million VIOLENT DEATHS (as of October 2007) from top American medical epidemiologists from Johns Hopkins and Columbia, published in the top medical journal The Lancet and endorsed in a public letter by 27 top medical experts.

More:
http://www.countercurrents.org/polya071007.htm

[spoony]

18. That's all fine, but

I don't quite follow that last piece of advice you gave him?

[Colorado Progressive]

36. I'm confused about that too! nt

[BonnieJW]

48. Me three.

Can you please elaborate on the Jewish people comment?

[BornagainDUer]

19. The beauty of religion exposed. That ignorant asshole has no

business addressing the public. He is a lying shit-for-brains mouthpiece for fascism and it is precisely this kind of thing that has destroyed this country. The SOB is criminal in his deliberate fabrications of a phony reality.

[me b zola]

20. You dun good, real good

:thumbsup:

[Canuckistanian]

21. Bravo!

if these people are going to publically spout their bullshit, you have a right to answer back with the truth!

If you only planted a seed of hesitation in them, you "dun" good, indeed!

[ThatsMyBarack]

22. Unh!

:kick: 4U, rsmith! :patriot:

(I dun R, too!)

[Gregorian]

23. We need more of that.

People think it's wrong to speak up. Or to be anything but positive. Well to hell with them all.

I applaud you heartily. I don't care if you did it incorrectly, with the wrong facts, or whatnot. You did it. And it's precisely because people didn't DO IT that we are here today.

Good for you. Even if I hate this new internet grammer. Yuck. I overcame that to say how much I appreciate your bravery.

[flying_wahini]

24. good for you. thanks on my behalf.

nt

[pepperbear]

25. "he said cause they were the one who attacked us"

Oh dear. therein lies the problem.

[rosesaylavee]

26. Good.

Thank you for that.

[Arugula Latte]

27. Did you point out the Iraqis DID NOT attack us?

What a fucking tool that guy is. Although, I have to say, I'm not surprised. Religion and idiocy too often go hand in hand.

[Oldtimeralso]

28. U dunn a more gooder job then that pasture! n/t

[JMDEM]

29. I remember such a run-in after the 2000 election

I was steaming mad. One of the secretaries where I worked asked me why I was so mad, and I said that the election had been stolen and that damned Kathleen Harris had the nerve to say that God had put her in her position to make sure Bush won.

The secretary looked at me and said "well, I think that's true. God DID want Bush to win, and put Harris there to make sure it happened."

I said "but Bush DIDN'T win -- he stole the election, with the help of Harris and Jeb. The secretary looked at me and said "but that must have obviously been God's will, because Bush is now President".

And I know damned well that if it had been Gore who had won, she would have been ranting about how Satan was taking over the Earth, and Gore's victory proved it.

What can you do? What can you do?

[DRoseDARs]

30. Is he aware that "video tape" was invented and that Pres. Bush has been recorded on it? nt

:shrug:

[urgk]

31. It may be sacreligious to some...

..but I like to point out that God kills more babies than anyone (remember the Van Halen "Right Now" video? "Right now, God is killing moms and dogs...because he has to."). Maybe it's part of his divine plan, but he seems to be in charge of the infant mortality rate. Unless pneumonia and low birth weight is strictly Satan's business. Of course, as an omniscient prime mover, he knowingly put all of the events that led to abortion doctors into motion long before Free Will could have possibly had anything to do with it.

Either it's all part of His divine plan or it isn't. It's not up to me to say which, but the right to life crowd should stop and think sometime.

[JMDEM]

42. This doesn't fit their mental framework

God is a super parent, constantly testing us. He lays traps, tests our moral character on a daily basis. If we fail his tests, he condemns his own children to hell forever, something even us flawed creatures wouldn't dream of doing to our own kids.

With a God that mean, no wonder their logic and judgement are all screwed up.

By the way, many fundamentalist Jews and Muslims also have the same basic view of God -- super parent, super MEAN NASTY parent, willing to condemn his own children to hell forever. Wow.

[sinkingfeeling]

32. I salute you. With a pastor like that, it is no wonder so many are led to believe

it was Saddam behind 9/11 and that Bush is just doin' the lord's work!

[madokie]

33. super, I likey

I tell my fundie neighbor all the time that organized religion is part of the reasons we are stuck where we are, he's in denial too though and has been for years so I don't say anything to him hoping it will stick only that it makes me feel somewhat a little better for having voiced it.

You done good

[femrap]

34. Bravo! These idiots must be confronted

with FACTS and it doesn't hurt to remind them about what Jesus actually said. Show them their super-sized, enormous and gigantic HYPOCRISY and WILLFUL IGNORANCE. God gave them a brain....use it!

[Javaman]

35. "he said cause they were the one who attacked us"...

did you correct this moron on this basic myth?

[Colorado Progressive]

37. This pastor is a great example of what happens to people too stupid for college. nt

[Jackpine Radical]

38. Another thing I like to point out to mouth-foaming fundies

is that abortion rates go down during Democratic administrations and up when Republics are in power. I don't have the link for that information at my fingertips, but if you Google, you will find.

[Quantess]

39. Good for you!

:applause:

[tridim]

40. Reminds me of the run-in's I had with Phelps during my college years

It's tough to maintain civility when Phelps and his young thugs are on campus. You have to be very careful that you never make any physical contact or you get sued.

I can't even remember how many times I've told Phelps he's going to hell.

[PatSeg]

41. The prevailing ignorance of much of our society

is terrifying. What world do these people live in?

Well done rsmith!

[WileEcoyote]

44. Next time use fart spray

It's legal and you can always say that you use it as a cologne scent if questioned.

[TroubleMan]

45. LOL..."They attacked us." What happened to turn the other cheek?

He not only is wrong about Iraq attacking us, but he's completely lost a foundation of Christian values - turn the other cheek.

Wow....I can't believe people are dumb enough to fall for this shit.

[Maestro]

46. Give to the reverend or cult leader or whatever he was!

Definitely drank too much kool-aid! Good on you!

[demigoddess]

47. did you all know that parents, way back when, would give one of there sons

to the church because this way the son would not starve to death. The land went to one son, another son might be apprenticed to a trade but then you had one son who was probably too stupid to make a go of anything, so you 'gave' him to the church and in this way he was assured of something to eat for the rest of his life. Better than just turning him out to starve.

[codjh9]

49. What a pathetic f-ing idiot - 'because they were the ones who attacked us'

It shows how much the Republican lie machine has worked, and how easily fooled an idiotic segment of our public is.

[Quantess]

51. Yeah! 9-11!

:banghead: :eyes:

I'm kicking this because right now GD needs a thread where nobody is arguing!

[Oilwellian]

50. Here's a question you can pose next time you see these freaks

There's a video on YouTube that was recently posted here...a guy went up to anti-abortion protesters and simply asked them, "if abortion were made illegal, would you support a woman going to prison if she had one?" The stunned looks on their faces said it all...they never even considered it. ALL of them said no, they wouldn't support something like that, so the guy asked, well then why make it illegal if you don't want any laws to punish those who would break them. No one could answer it. :D Stupid idiots.