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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:20 PM
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20 years with only two families occupying the WH is too much
I am not anti woman, Hillary is a great lady, but..

it is TIME for NEW blood in washington.


The media and all the repukes want Hillary to be the nominee because they think they can beat her


I am afraid there are still too many racist and anti-women that will not vote for her or Obama


I am all for progressive change, but this time this CRITICAL time we can not afford to lose


it is worse now than 2004

We have too many SC justices nearing the end of their lifespan

Roe V wade will be gone

so will our constitution

if anyone other than a D gets elected or selected
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:21 PM
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1. Your constitution no longer exists.
North American Union. Look it up.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:42 PM
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17. all i could find is a bunch of xenophobic wingnuts screaming about "the mexicans"
pray tell, where i might find a reliable source of information?
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:57 PM
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22. Is Lou Dobbs reliable enough?
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 09:59 PM by Blashyrkh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H65f3q_Lm9U

Transcript: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13854.htm

I'm at work so my search capabilities are restricted. I haven't done a lot of reading yet. I only found out about the existence of this from the "American Zeitgeist" documentary. They mention Lou Dobbs' story.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:01 PM
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24. i will look into it...
thanks fer the links
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Andy Canuck Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:10 PM
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28. Google the SPP
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:03 PM
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26. I welcome the Amero
It's gotta be better than the dollar
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:27 PM
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29. Nice to know that some other people are hearing this.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:21 PM
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2. Watch out...
You are going to be called a Hillary Hater!

;)

(I agree...20 years is too much)

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:22 PM
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3. In a nation of 300,000,000 it's not right that only two families would be in power for so long.
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Solar_Power Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:37 PM
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31. You would think so
But I wouldn't bet on it
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Fed_Up_Grammy Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:22 PM
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4. I agree----we need a good shake-up across the board.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:22 PM
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5. so bush is such a f^^^ing piece of shit it slops out of the bucket to the clintons as well?
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 09:23 PM by bullimiami
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:34 PM
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11. Apparently that's how some people here see it. n/t
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:22 PM
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6. You Are Correct! n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:23 PM
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7. Uh vay. This is really getting old.
Bush did not win in 2000.

Clinton was a good president.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:24 PM
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8. I agree
however


this time


we need new blood
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:29 PM
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9. I agree. 20 years is too much.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:04 PM
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27. So because we had two lousy Presidents named Bush,
we shouldn't elect a second potentially excellent one named Clinton?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:33 PM
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10. So because the moronic Bush son stole an election or two,
a highly capable, dedicated, hardworking person like HRC shouldn't have a chance?

I don't buy it.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:35 PM
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12. there is nothign to buy
it doesn't matter that he didn't win

he still occupied the WH


HRC is plenty capable

I just do NOT think it is her time



I know many who will not vote for her simply because she is who she is


when we need a win so badly we can NOT afford to lose
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:39 PM
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16. Would YOU vote for her? n/t
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:42 PM
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18. Yes I will if she is the nominee
but I know several in my family that will not


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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:55 PM
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21. Well, you should work on them to dispell their objections if they're as narrow
as those described in your OP.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:01 PM
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25. You're sending a mixed message that I don't understand.
You say you don't think it is her time -- when would that be? She's 60 years old. Should she wait until she's 68?

And you say people won't vote for her because "she is who she is." What difference will time make? She'll still be who she is, only older.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:37 PM
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13. do not be deceived. the media WANT hillary to win.
and so do her (and our) corporate masters.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:38 PM
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14. The media want her because they think repukes can beat her?
What a bizarre comment!

Not unlike your objection to Hillary because she's not "new blood". What do you do with your family members every 8 years, trade them in for "new blood"? It's as ambiguous and unmeeningful as saying we need "change".

Out of curiousity, who is your choice?
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:39 PM
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15. I like Obama, Edwards and Gore
I will be happy with anyone that has a D behind them

BUT...
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:50 PM
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19. They may be the Julio Claudians of our times.
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:53 PM
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20. "They are passing the Whitehouse around like a party joint."
Heard that (not word for word but what I can remember of it, anyway...) out of Mos Def last night on Bill Mahr's show. He was talking about the fact that if Hil wins the Bush family and the Clintons will have both have been in control for too long...

I am not a "Hater of Hillary" but you have got to know I agree with Mos Def on this issue. There is most certainly a Clinton Fatigue in this nation--just as there is a Bush Overload. It is cliche for a reason, and our party would do well to consider that before we put our nominee forward.


Laura
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 09:58 PM
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23. gee, think that up yourself?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:36 PM
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30. No shit. If you want to read a bunch of idiotic tripe, this is the place
The "new blood" meme is sooo silly

Just because it's "new" doesn't mean it knows anything.

It could be the dumbest or most dangerous blood to ever get pumped.


No thanks




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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 01:50 PM
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32. Ahh! Once again the "meme " that anyone differs with candidate choice is "stupid".
Condescension works so well as a vote getter.
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