The Democrats in Congress are doing something right, and I can't find a link!

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I saw it scroll twice across the ticker, once on CNN and then on MSNBC, but I couldn't find more info on their webpages.

This is something to get excited about. They're actually asking for the NAMES of the people who were illegally wiretapped by the NSA.

Anybody have a link to this story?

[WilliamPitt]

1. Dig in

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2005138&mesg_id=2005138

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5. Thanks Will.

I think you're referring to this:

The bill also requires the Justice Department to reveal the details of all electronic surveillance conducted without court orders since 9/11.

I like that both CNN and MSNBC interpret it to claim we're going to get NAMES. It makes it less likely that the intentions get lawyered.

[antigop]

2. The companies might get retroactive immunity IF the companies detail what they did

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2007/10/dems_opens_door_for_immunity_i.php

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A top Democratic leader opened the door Tuesday to granting U.S. telecommunications companies retroactive legal immunity for helping the government conduct electronic surveillance without court orders, but said the Bush administration must first detail what those companies did.
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3. I think we need to have all the info on the table, before it's decided

whether immunity is an option. It will be very easy to determine if those who were wiretapped had anything to do with terrorism, or were political targets.

[rodeodance]

4. McClachery newspapers has a good article on new fisa prop.

[tekisui]

6. This could be what brings up impeachment.

The Dem leadership will only impeach if they think that THEIR rights have been violated. THey are first and foremost politicians. When they feel that they have been politically spied on, or their jobs came under fire from politics in the DoJ, they take notice.

I hope alot of Dem names show up on that list. If it leads to impeachment, I am for immunity for anyone who's got the goods.

[Bitwit1234]

7. Got the answer to some of the names.

John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Tom Dashcle, Dan Rather and a lot of other democrats and protest groups.

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9. This is going to be Mardi Gras in the pre-Katrina days.

[babylonsister]

8. Here's the applicable para.:

The Protect American Act’s (PAA) broad authority, as well as programs that allowed the government to collect a broad range of intelligence information about Americans without court approval, raised grave civil liberties concerns. The RESTORE Act improves the PAA by providing a series of checks and balances while still allowing maximum flexibility. It does not require individual warrants when targets are reasonably believed to be abroad, but it is firm that a FISA warrant is required to obtain communications of people in the United States. The RESTORE Act settles that FISA is the exclusive means of electronic surveillance and that no modifications can be made without express legal authorization. The new bill will also provide additional resources for the National Security Agency and Department of Justice to ensure that there are no backlogs of critical intelligence gathering. Audits by the Office of the Inspector General, including an initial audit that will cover previous warrantless surveillance programs conducted by the Bush Administration, will provide ongoing independent oversight and review.

http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=827

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10. Thanks babylonsister!