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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:38 AM
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What would happen to the Clinton campaign if GORE runs?
the burning question?

Many people don't think he is going to run which would have some bearing on the way people answer in polls if questioned. If they think he will come into the race with a big chance to win, what will happen to Clinton's campaign? Will it fall apart? Will this split Clinton's vote and let Obama in? Anybody got any data?

What do you think?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:43 AM
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1. gone over night. But corporate media will try to keep it quiet.
The smart move for Gore would be to join forces with Edwards, the one southerner in the top 3. That happened to be Bill Clinton's trick with picking VP: TWO southerners on Dem ticket.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:56 AM
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7. I can't vote for Edwards
I'm sorry.... get Clark or some other Southerner on the ticket.

Edwards is a flake.

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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:38 PM
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28. Is it impossible for you
not to post something like that every time you see Edwards name in a thread? It sure is getting a bit tiresome.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:47 AM
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35. Do you ever stop?
with this stuff?

Edwards is a flake?

Please.
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Rhythm and Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:45 AM
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2. Hm. Tough race, but I think Clinton still edges him.
She's got a ridiculously powerful machine behind her.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:48 AM
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3. maybe/maybe not?
maybe that is why he is reluctant?
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:25 AM
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18. Yup. I think Gore would need a guaranteed win to put himself through that again, and that's
why he hasn't committed. Although he's very popular, it's still not a sure thing.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:51 AM
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4. He'd lose
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:03 AM
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10. Hillary Is Polling Anywhere Between 45% and 50%
Her supporters aren't going anywhere...That means Gore would literally have to get every single vote from the other candidates...

That's almost impossible...
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:12 PM
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22. How much of that is name
recognition though? I don't have any idea myself but he has name recognition too so it is hard to tell how it might play out.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:27 PM
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24. that 45% isn't solid supporters
Those are polls where the current candidates are the only choices, and that is the percentage she gets.

If Gore were a choice, the numbers would be drastically different.

You sHillary-heads sure think she's the people's favorite.
You're in for a rude awakening.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 09:40 PM
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29. Yes, that's what I was wondering
how much of the Clinton vote would go to Gore?
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:10 AM
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14. Gore can't lose!
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:55 AM
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5. I'm ready to find out.
Show me, Al Gore!
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:55 AM
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6. Finished.
Same with all the candidates. I think most would get behind Gore immediately. Hillary, of course, wouldn't. The electorate does not like the choices they've been given and they particularly detest the pre-ordained candidate. People will vote third party, not vote or write in anyone but Hillary in the General. I truly believe that. If Al Gore stepped in, and I'm not one of those who thinks he will, it would be down to two candidates in the primary and frankly, Hillary doesn't stand a chance against Gore.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:34 AM
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19. If the electorate 'detests' the 'pre-ordained candidate,' that candidate must not
have much of a chance, do they? They must be polling very low, around 1% or 2%, right?
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:05 PM
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21. I wonder what the polling would reflect
if the pollsters included ALL of the candidates when polling instead of just 5. The Machine and MSM can do amazing things with all those corporate dollars, including influencing people who rely on MSM for their news, which is most people. Name recognition is also a significant part of that. However, if Gore enters the race, I think all bets are off and Hillary, with her extremely high negatives within virtually all demographics, would be the loser in a Gore/Clinton race.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:00 AM
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8. She will fight it out
but I think she will lose
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:00 AM
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9. Personally, I don't think Al
will jump in. The Democrats have momentum now and he would not want to jeopardize that. I love Al Gore and of course know he actually won 2000 but at this point in time I believe, barring any unforseen kinks in the progression of the race, he will stay out of it.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:03 AM
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11. I heard many people say
they don't think Senator Clinton is particularly religious, but I disagree.

I feel quite certain that she spends some portion of every night on her knees praying "Pleeeeeeze, Jeebuss, don't let Gore get in the race."

:silly:
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:33 PM
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27. which is exactly why she started the campaign 6 months early,
She is trying to get a headstart.
It's her only hope to attain seeming 'inevitability' before Gore steps in and gives the people a real candidate.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:06 AM
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12. This Is What Would Happen?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:29 PM
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26. what a red herring, Al gets 10% and he's not even a candidate
What that says is that people are so dissatisfied with the other options that they're willing to choose someone who isn't even an announced candidate.

We want Al!

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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 09:52 PM
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30. low Gore poll because they don't expect him to stand?
and Fox, well.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:08 AM
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13. He is the only one that can stop her
she knows it.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:41 AM
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20. More importantly, HE knows it. Which is why he will run.
I think he really dislikes her and knows that he MUST run for the good of the planet.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:11 AM
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15. What would happen to Kucinich? Edwards? Dodd? Richardson? Biden? Obama?
all of them? Would they all just evaporate after raising millions of dollars and setting up organizations in many states and having many devoted supporters? Just because Al Gore enters at the last minute? NO, it means that rather than being a phantom candidate that Gore would be a real life candidate and would have to campaign for the support of voters just like everybody else and set up campaign organizations in states which will be going to the polls in just a couple of months.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:15 AM
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16. "What's your prediction for tonight's fight?"
Edited on Thu Oct-11-07 11:19 AM by AtomicKitten
Mr. T: "Pain."
* Rocky III



On edit: Re-elect Gore 2008.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:16 AM
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17. It would knock everyone else effectively out of the race.
The campaign would be Clinton vs. Gore. Obama & Edwards would no longer be the ABC candidate. Clinton would lose lots of support to Gore (including me).

It would be a heavy weight fight to the finish.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:54 AM
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37. Same here, but I don't believe he is going to run
It would be a tough call for me to make that jump this far along, but I would inevitably do it.

However, I don't think that we are going to see this happen, in spite of how much people here are convinced that he is going to run. Al's comfortable being a trend setter in the fight against Global Warming. He's carving out his niche and will be a powerful force in the upcoming years as more is learned (and exposed) about Global Warming. A President can only do so much when he is hamstrung by Congress and other forces and it can quickly be manipulated against him across all of his policies. I'm not convinced that Gore would want to subject himself to this when he has proven to be an effective and colossal voice on the outside.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:19 PM
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23. I can't juggle all the "if's" of a possible Gore Peace Prize, let alone throw in
a presidential race announcement.

If the first happens AND the second happens, he owns the world media for days at a time for at least a week.

Then run a poll, then see who's still at the same fundraising clip he or she is last month.

Gore has very discernibe support.

If (1) and (2) above both happen, I personally feel he will be the frontrunner almost overnight.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:29 PM
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25. I don't think Bill will offer to campaign for him this time.
Oh, and there will probably be a dance-off.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 09:57 PM
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31. Do you think independents, some GOP voters will vote for Gore or Clinton?
in the actual race who would win Gore or Clinton if chosen?
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:05 PM
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32. Gore is not going to run, and
here is why. Gore is happy to be a one issue man. His issue is global warming. Plus, Gore does not have the fire, the passion and the desire to run for president, let along be president.....Here is a thought. He Gore jumps in the race and HRC still whips his ass. Now if he wins the Nobel Prize then he will not be remembered as winning that award but have gotten beat by HRC.....Gore will not take that chance....So stop posting about Gore.....You all want a winner? You all want a fighter? You want a person that has a fire, a passion and a desire to be president and change back this country the way it was prior to January 21, 2001? Then stay with whomever you like during the primaries and then EVERYONE get behind OUR candidate....

Ben David
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:38 AM
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33. lo, we are not going to stop posting about Gore
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 11:38 AM by bambino
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:42 AM
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34. Things would get real ugly and nasty.
Rupert and his FOX minions would undoubtedly pitch in on Hilliary's side whether solicited or not.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 11:47 AM
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36. I think you may be right about Roop
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